I quit all max uptiers ...

[Mephisto]

... without spawning a single unit and will continue to do so until either the post ww2 BRs are decompressed or the economy resembles the risk (don't come to me with l2p, when you are the last survivor after 3 min of battle, there is nothing you can really achieve)
I quit all stupid maps (like cargo port or sun city) they might be fun to some or arcarde optimized but they are nevertheless stupid
I quit all stupid map layouts of otherwise good maps
and if all the nations I want to play are locked I quit the game and do something else. I will not try to throw money at that problem. I will only invest into a game if I have fun and that is no fun at all
change my mind
(and reduce the amount of spawn points granted by the uncontested capture points at the start of a battle so the suicide rushs for CAS stop)

[Ryan "A1r" Wynnclaire]

引用自 biomike：

引用自 Mephisto：

and if I don't want to play top tier? if I want to play 6.3 I want to play 6.3 - either give me the chance to switch the lineup or limit the up/downtier to 0.7 - easy fix
> the reasoning of longer waiting times is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ as there would be more players if it wouldn't be that punishing.
> and people that get frustrated and switch to other games ... well who said they will come back if the other game they start up is more fun

Ok you will now only see 6.3 BR, no 6.7, 7.0,7.3 but you will also never see 6.0,5.7,5.3
Cause no up tier also means no down tier
Also you can only have 6.3 tanks/planes in your line up
Have fun never finding a match

my dude, are you blind? they said put up/downtier only 0.7 instead of 1.0, not that 6.3 can only fight against 6.3, wtf

[Dakota]

引用自 Mephisto：

... without spawning a single unit and will continue to do so until either the post ww2 BRs are decompressed or the economy resembles the risk (don't come to me with l2p, when you are the last survivor after 3 min of battle, there is nothing you can really achieve)
I quit all stupid maps (like cargo port or sun city) they might be fun to some or arcarde optimized but they are nevertheless stupid
I quit all stupid map layouts of otherwise good maps
and if all the nations I want to play are locked I quit the game and do something else. I will not try to throw money at that problem. I will only invest into a game if I have fun and that is no fun at all
change my mind
(and reduce the amount of spawn points granted by the uncontested capture points at the start of a battle so the suicide rushs for CAS stop)

That's fine, they have a system where people can join in progress matches anyway to take spots early on in a match opened by you leaving, so it doesn't hurt the team or anything and just allows you to not be in situations you dislike. It'd be nice if the game had a nice map banning system so as to not play on maps you don't want to play on at all and reasonable BR spread definitely tho.

[Corpse-Thing]

引用自 Mephisto：

... without spawning a single unit and will continue to do so until either the post ww2 BRs are decompressed or the economy resembles the risk (don't come to me with l2p, when you are the last survivor after 3 min of battle, there is nothing you can really achieve)
I quit all stupid maps (like cargo port or sun city) they might be fun to some or arcarde optimized but they are nevertheless stupid
I quit all stupid map layouts of otherwise good maps
and if all the nations I want to play are locked I quit the game and do something else. I will not try to throw money at that problem. I will only invest into a game if I have fun and that is no fun at all
change my mind
(and reduce the amount of spawn points granted by the uncontested capture points at the start of a battle so the suicide rushs for CAS stop)

Why decrease points gained for captures, just increase jet SP requirements.
Like seriously, you're a clown if that's your suggestion. That SP keeps players in the game if they get clapped immediately after capturing.

[Corpse-Thing]

引用自 Dakota：

引用自 Mephisto：

... without spawning a single unit and will continue to do so until either the post ww2 BRs are decompressed or the economy resembles the risk (don't come to me with l2p, when you are the last survivor after 3 min of battle, there is nothing you can really achieve)
I quit all stupid maps (like cargo port or sun city) they might be fun to some or arcarde optimized but they are nevertheless stupid
I quit all stupid map layouts of otherwise good maps
and if all the nations I want to play are locked I quit the game and do something else. I will not try to throw money at that problem. I will only invest into a game if I have fun and that is no fun at all
change my mind
(and reduce the amount of spawn points granted by the uncontested capture points at the start of a battle so the suicide rushs for CAS stop)

That's fine, they have a system where people can join in progress matches anyway to take spots early on in a match opened by you leaving, so it doesn't hurt the team or anything and just allows you to not be in situations you dislike. It'd be nice if the game had a nice map banning system so as to not play on maps you don't want to play on at all and reasonable BR spread definitely tho.

Imo an easy solution to the up/down-BR system is to just make it so you:
1: Never face higher Tier than you.
(ie: R6 facing R7.)
2: You only get matches against tanks within your own BR.
(ie: 9.7 facing 9.0-9.9.)

It'd solve problems where you're in a 9.7 for a country with bad pen for that rank (Like Germany, Sweden, etc) and end up facing 10.7 tanks that you can only pen if they're Russian/Chinese (No lower-plate armor), or it's a side-shot.

I had that happen so many times while trying to play my 9.7 Leo 2AV, that I just quit trying to play Germany since all I was managing is to lose SL.
Back to Russia and my 8.3 T55, I only face tanks that I can still pen if I use my APFSDS in an up-BR, but at least it's regularly possible.

[biomike]

引用自 The Feast：

引用自 Dakota：

That's fine, they have a system where people can join in progress matches anyway to take spots early on in a match opened by you leaving, so it doesn't hurt the team or anything and just allows you to not be in situations you dislike. It'd be nice if the game had a nice map banning system so as to not play on maps you don't want to play on at all and reasonable BR spread definitely tho.

Imo an easy solution to the up/down-BR system is to just make it so you:
1: Never face higher Tier than you.
(ie: R6 facing R7.)
2: You only get matches against tanks within your own BR.
(ie: 9.7 facing 9.0-9.9.)

It'd solve problems where you're in a 9.7 for a country with bad pen for that rank (Like Germany, Sweden, etc) and end up facing 10.7 tanks that you can only pen if they're Russian/Chinese (No lower-plate armor), or it's a side-shot.

I had that happen so many times while trying to play my 9.7 Leo 2AV, that I just quit trying to play Germany since all I was managing is to lose SL.
Back to Russia and my 8.3 T55, I only face tanks that I can still pen if I use my APFSDS in an up-BR, but at least it's regularly possible.

1: tiers do not matter for the BR
T-34 85 is 5.7 and rank 4
Tiger E is 5.7 and rank 3
Do you think they should never face the other?
2: This will make it so people wont play the lower BR tanks in the bracket
Why would i play a 5.0 tank when i will 100% of the time be up tiered?

[Dakota]

引用自 The Feast：

引用自 Dakota：

That's fine, they have a system where people can join in progress matches anyway to take spots early on in a match opened by you leaving, so it doesn't hurt the team or anything and just allows you to not be in situations you dislike. It'd be nice if the game had a nice map banning system so as to not play on maps you don't want to play on at all and reasonable BR spread definitely tho.

Imo an easy solution to the up/down-BR system is to just make it so you:
1: Never face higher Tier than you.
(ie: R6 facing R7.)
2: You only get matches against tanks within your own BR.
(ie: 9.7 facing 9.0-9.9.)

It'd solve problems where you're in a 9.7 for a country with bad pen for that rank (Like Germany, Sweden, etc) and end up facing 10.7 tanks that you can only pen if they're Russian/Chinese (No lower-plate armor), or it's a side-shot.

I had that happen so many times while trying to play my 9.7 Leo 2AV, that I just quit trying to play Germany since all I was managing is to lose SL.
Back to Russia and my 8.3 T55, I only face tanks that I can still pen if I use my APFSDS in an up-BR, but at least it's regularly possible.

I'd say even easier is just lowering the BR spread from 1.0 up and down to like 0.7 or 0.3 up and down, so like if you're at 5.0 you currently face 4.0-6.0, but instead what if it were 4.3-5.7 or even 4.7-5.3.

[Mephisto]

引用自 The Feast：

引用自 Mephisto：

...
(and reduce the amount of spawn points granted by the uncontested capture points at the start of a battle so the suicide rushs for CAS stop)

Why decrease points gained for captures, just increase jet SP requirements.
Like seriously, you're a clown if that's your suggestion. That SP keeps players in the game if they get clapped immediately after capturing.

well I see you know how to play tanks ...
If you get clapped immedately after capturing the points early in the game you deserve it. and you can always spawn a second unit with the base spawn points avaiable.
to be clear it was only meant for the uncontested spawn points before first capture. or they split the actual amount between capturing and decapturing because decapping doesn't grant you anything but it can be sometimes be as valuable as capping itself

[Chikuwu]

引用自 Shillelagh：

引用自 Tidsloop：

Otherwise i support the suggestion of deleting all tonks (no refunds) so gaijin can focus on airplanes again

Ah yes, delete half of the entire game, a good portion of gaijin's revenue, AND do it without a refund (aka a crime) because you don't like it.

actually it aint a crime. You bought a live service, which, in the Terms of Agreement, you agreed that War Thunder will revoke your ability to play the game at any point without any refunds. It is legally their right to end support for the live service they are providing without refunds.

[Shillelagh]

引用自 Chikuwu：

引用自 Shillelagh：

Ah yes, delete half of the entire game, a good portion of gaijin's revenue, AND do it without a refund (aka a crime) because you don't like it.

actually it aint a crime. You bought a live service, which, in the Terms of Agreement, you agreed that War Thunder will revoke your ability to play the game at any point without any refunds. It is legally their right to end support for the live service they are providing without refunds.

Nice

[DarthBong420]

.7 matchmaking would make this game so much better. but slimy snail knows people are more inclined to buy premiums for their cheaper repair costs if they are outclassed constantly.

[Mr. Jellybean]

War Thunder needs to consider CS:GO style match making. Match players based on skill and allow people to choose which maps they'd like to play. It doesn't make any sense to attempt to even out teams by matching top performing players with higher ranked vehicles. And it doesn't make sense that I'm forced to play the makes that I dislike (Breslau, Seversk-13, Sun City, and Sweden) so often and rarely to never see the ones I do enjoy playing.

War Thunder logic: "That guy in the T-34-85 is doing too well. Let's make things more fair by making him play against T26E1-1s, Tiger II H, Panther As, and Jagdpanthers. Let's also mess with their RNG so it's nearly impossible to hit or kill anything. It's only fair to everyone else playing..."

And if they were operating CS:GO: "You've played well the previous five matches, so now you're not allowed to purchase body armor, grenades, or any guns better than an SMG. You will also appear on the enemy radar at all times. And just to ensure fairness, your gun now only fires rubber bullets and doesn't shoot where you're pointing it."

[Ryan "A1r" Wynnclaire]

引用自 DarthBong420：

.7 matchmaking would make this game so much better. but slimy snail knows people are more inclined to buy premiums for their cheaper repair costs if they are outclassed constantly.

yeee

[Chikuwu]

引用自 Shillelagh：

引用自 Chikuwu：

actually it aint a crime. You bought a live service, which, in the Terms of Agreement, you agreed that War Thunder will revoke your ability to play the game at any point without any refunds. It is legally their right to end support for the live service they are providing without refunds.

Nice

I think all games that are nowadays done include the revoke ability, it just creeped into games with denuvo anti tamper protection. All denuvo protected games withhold the right to revoke your ability to play their SINGLE PLAYER GAME whenever they want to stop supporting it.

[Mephisto]

sometimes I just feel as if the snail just wants you to stop playing, when you get constantly bad maps and uptiers ...
well it's (another) time for playing sth else (again)

[mofofoodstamp]

1. I also jout of uptiers. Take reserve tanks and you won't get crew locked. Until war thunder fixes the br compression bug I wont accept the current uptier rate. I play usa 9.0 and i get 10.0 or 9.7 11/12 games. consistently. Either the br compression bug is real or they are secretly nerfing usa or other tiers by doing so many uptiers.

There is no statistical justification for that rate of uptier. So I don't mind leaving and finding a real game.

I play plenty of uptiers so I am willing to, if it were closer to 50% I would be happy playing like any other game.

It is so bad for usa 9.0 that I will actually play 8.7 and get top tier way more than I should.

As for the leaving due to maps I can only do it on the 1 or 2 horrible maps that are just pain but I just play most.