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pepitos Jun 18, 2022 @ 12:07am
Ground RB gives no XP now ?
people used to say that RB gave more XP than arcade... it's just not true nowadays is it ? In a good game of RB i make as much XP as in a game of arcade where i capped a point or killed one enemy... the only time RB really gives more XP is when you do an excellent game, the ones you only get one time out of 20 at best... what happened ?
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magazine2  [developer] Jun 20, 2022 @ 12:14am 
Hi! We did some changes to the game's economy back in January/February of this year.

In short: We switched to a rank based economy over a vehicle efficiency economy.

You can read all the details here:

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/545952-planned-economy-changes-in-february/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/546338-answering-your-questions-and-comments-on-economy-changes/

Thanks!
Last edited by magazine2; Jun 20, 2022 @ 12:14am
Originally posted by magazine2:
Hi! We did some changes to the game's economy back in January/February of this year.

In short: We switched to a rank based economy over a vehicle efficiency economy.

You can read all the details here:

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/545952-planned-economy-changes-in-february/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/546338-answering-your-questions-and-comments-on-economy-changes/

Thanks!
In short, they made the endless grind ever harder to convince you to buy premium, cause gaijin needs more monies.

At this point, they want to make you almost feel ashamed that ur a freemium player, its becoming rediculous. Atm, sealclubbing lower tiers just to have enough SL for higher tiers is starting to become the norm. Honestly, i dont know why war thunder isnt having a massive decline in player base, playing as a new player, constantly dying to skilled players can not be fun gameplay.
Last edited by [3rc] Ifriqiya Kairouan; Jun 20, 2022 @ 12:23am
hsf_ Jun 20, 2022 @ 12:23am 
Originally posted by magazine2:
Hi! We did some changes to the game's economy back in January/February of this year.

In short: We switched to a rank based economy over a vehicle efficiency economy.

You can read all the details here:

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/545952-planned-economy-changes-in-february/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/546338-answering-your-questions-and-comments-on-economy-changes/

Thanks!

Correction:

You nerfed the economy... AGAIN.
ShadowDoggie Jun 20, 2022 @ 1:46am 
Originally posted by hsf_:
Originally posted by magazine2:
Hi! We did some changes to the game's economy back in January/February of this year.

In short: We switched to a rank based economy over a vehicle efficiency economy.

You can read all the details here:

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/545952-planned-economy-changes-in-february/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/546338-answering-your-questions-and-comments-on-economy-changes/

Thanks!

Correction:

You nerfed the economy... AGAIN.

Yup gaijin just loves farming them premium buyers...

I am tellin you, mark my words, the community is gonna become very toxic towards gaijin if they keep going the way they are.
hsf_ Jun 20, 2022 @ 1:47am 
Originally posted by ShadowDoggie:
Originally posted by hsf_:

Correction:

You nerfed the economy... AGAIN.

Yup gaijin just loves farming them premium buyers...

I am tellin you, mark my words, the community is gonna become very toxic towards gaijin if they keep going the way they are.

Become?
i think we are way past that point, shadowdoggie. gaijin lowered the efficiency progress from 130% to 110%. its no use to use the previous vehicle in the branch to grind the next vehicle, they might as well remove it outright.

they lowered sl gain, rp gain, while increasing repair costs. not to mention that the latest expansion showed a complete LACK of proper testing with the amount of bugs that showed up. gaijin is in a decline. they try to increase profiths but decrease performance. its obvious gaijin is on its last legs trying to drain everything out of war thunder they can. they cant add future tanks to the game, they can only add tanks up to now. unless they go Wargaming on us and add fantasy tanks. E100 and ho-ri are already there, but the actual built tanks, like the MAUS are not? this game has an expiration date. and its nearing it. why else are they heavily investing in other games, making gaijin not just a developer, but also a publisher?

its obvious. war thunder is in decline.
Last edited by [3rc] Ifriqiya Kairouan; Jun 20, 2022 @ 11:01am
Chaoslink Jun 20, 2022 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by 3rc Ifriqiya Kairouan:
Originally posted by magazine2:
Hi! We did some changes to the game's economy back in January/February of this year.

In short: We switched to a rank based economy over a vehicle efficiency economy.

You can read all the details here:

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/545952-planned-economy-changes-in-february/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/546338-answering-your-questions-and-comments-on-economy-changes/

Thanks!
In short, they made the endless grind ever harder to convince you to buy premium, cause gaijin needs more monies.

At this point, they want to make you almost feel ashamed that ur a freemium player, its becoming rediculous. Atm, sealclubbing lower tiers just to have enough SL for higher tiers is starting to become the norm. Honestly, i dont know why war thunder isnt having a massive decline in player base, playing as a new player, constantly dying to skilled players can not be fun gameplay.
I mean, I’m not exactly saying I disagree that they’ve made it worse. That said, no player should jump into a free to play game and expect to put a large amount of time into it without paying anything. You should put something into it at some point, you just choose how much. Not doing so I’d say is disrespectful to the people who made the thing. By the time you’re at rank III-IV, you’ve got more than enough time in the game to justify having a premium account. If you buy the year all at once, it’s just about $8 a month. When on sale you can get it for $4 or even a bit less. It isn’t really that much for the entire year.
ghost Jun 20, 2022 @ 11:34am 
If gaijin want push more to buy premium account and tanks/plane why not make the premium account worth having where if you do have it make the grind 200-300% easyer that push more people in to top tier and stop the one death leave game play.

Or they can do a weekly buff to a tier that make silver lion have like a 300-500% more for that week in that tier so they can push people in to the tier that need more people in them
xCrossFaith Jun 20, 2022 @ 11:36am 
Originally posted by magazine2:
Hi! We did some changes to the game's economy back in January/February of this year.

In short: We switched to a rank based economy over a vehicle efficiency economy.

You can read all the details here:

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/545952-planned-economy-changes-in-february/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/546338-answering-your-questions-and-comments-on-economy-changes/

Thanks!

In short, you nerfed economy AGAIN for the sole purpose of making the grind harder and slower.

I'm in all honestly unable to understand why you guys go out of your way to avoid improving the game in a way that will be better for literally everyone, both the players and the company, making both parts benefit more from it
76561198315424152 Jun 20, 2022 @ 11:39am 
Originally posted by ShadowDoggie:
Originally posted by hsf_:

Correction:

You nerfed the economy... AGAIN.

Yup gaijin just loves farming them premium buyers...

I am tellin you, mark my words, the community is gonna become very toxic towards gaijin if they keep going the way they are.
At least we got some devs or representatives on the forum now.
Last edited by Tidsloop; Jun 20, 2022 @ 11:41am
76561198315424152 Jun 20, 2022 @ 11:40am 
Originally posted by magazine2:
Hi! We did some changes to the game's economy back in January/February of this year.

In short: We switched to a rank based economy over a vehicle efficiency economy.

You can read all the details here:

{LINK REMOVED}

{LINK REMOVED}

Thanks!
What do you think about it?
xeon_mlt Jun 20, 2022 @ 12:24pm 
Originally posted by 3rc Ifriqiya Kairouan:
i think we are way past that point, shadowdoggie. gaijin lowered the efficiency progress from 130% to 110%. its no use to use the previous vehicle in the branch to grind the next vehicle, they might as well remove it outright.

they lowered sl gain, rp gain, while increasing repair costs. not to mention that the latest expansion showed a complete LACK of proper testing with the amount of bugs that showed up. gaijin is in a decline. they try to increase profiths but decrease performance. its obvious gaijin is on its last legs trying to drain everything out of war thunder they can. they cant add future tanks to the game, they can only add tanks up to now. unless they go Wargaming on us and add fantasy tanks. E100 and ho-ri are already there, but the actual built tanks, like the MAUS are not? this game has an expiration date. and its nearing it. why else are they heavily investing in other games, making gaijin not just a developer, but also a publisher?

its obvious. war thunder is in decline.

The thing is, at least from what I understand, (for ground vehicles at least) there are 2 games that people can choose:
- World of Tanks;
- War Thunder.

From what understand, it is pretty much a race to the bottom when it comes a lot of things, none of them good. The thing is that this game, from what I can fathom, descends to the bottom at a slightly lower rate. So it affords to abuse its player base because they have nowhere else to go.

It forces experienced players to player at lower tiers, so the newcomers get clubbed until they get good or else they leave, and at top tier, after (possibly) years to grinding you find yourself surrounded by wallet warriors that have no clue what is going on, with modern weapons favoring more and more point and click tactics (firing missiles from 4km away in your chopper is a very good way to play ground RB it seems). So you get clubbed at lower tiers, and you hemorrhage money over pointless battles at higher tiers.
pepitos Jun 20, 2022 @ 1:01pm 
Well; i've noticed that despite all of his problems, people keep coming back to war thunder because... Well there is nothing else like it really, especially with planes, tanks and ships/boats and a "realistic" outlook (yeah well some problems make that laughable but there is at least an attempt)
And i mean even then look at WoWS; look at all the complaints about the game, there was even a big protest about it... Yet people keep playing it and spending money. Plain and simple : most people don't care at all. And it doesn't apply only to video games, sadly...
Last edited by pepitos; Jun 20, 2022 @ 1:02pm
Originally posted by Chaoslink:
That said, no player should jump into a free to play game and expect to put a large amount of time into it without paying anything. You should put something into it at some point, you just choose how much. Not doing so I’d say is disrespectful to the people who made the thing. By the time you’re at rank III-IV, you’ve got more than enough time in the game to justify having a premium account.

im dutch. im cheap. and economical. its a trade thats in our genes, hehe. why spend 8 bucks a month, on a service that you only use 2 or 3 hours a day, (i got a freaking 9 hour job!)while that price is paid for a 24/7 service? and then there are off days. so thats an even bigger loss. and war thunder aint exactly a game you can play all day while keeping your sanity. then there are other games i also feel like playing.

premium time is nothing but a scam, and gaijin is pushing it. as i said, you are now advertising for the game. and ur even paying to advertise! you want me to feel embarressed to not pay the devs. you are brainwashed into thinking that its not okey to throw money at a game that is brought out for free. trying to brainwash me now. the biggest problem being, you dont even see it, dont want to accept it, no matter what is said to you. your brainwash is complete.

i understand, gaijin needs to pay the wages of the developers. and there are plenty of people who want to pay 50 bucks for a tank, me not included. but that doesnt give them the right to make my grind a living hell, just to try to convince me to buy premium.
Swag Messiah Jun 20, 2022 @ 1:12pm 
Originally posted by magazine2:
Hi! We did some changes to the game's economy back in January/February of this year.

In short: We switched to a rank based economy over a vehicle efficiency economy.

You can read all the details here:

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/545952-planned-economy-changes-in-february/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/546338-answering-your-questions-and-comments-on-economy-changes/

Thanks!

You offered two choices for the community on how the SL/RP situation should be remedied, and then you twisted the knife and hurt us anyway.

No one liked this.

Originally posted by 3rc Ifriqiya Kairouan:
Originally posted by magazine2:
Hi! We did some changes to the game's economy back in January/February of this year.

In short: We switched to a rank based economy over a vehicle efficiency economy.

You can read all the details here:

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/545952-planned-economy-changes-in-february/

https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/546338-answering-your-questions-and-comments-on-economy-changes/

Thanks!
In short, they made the endless grind ever harder to convince you to buy premium, cause gaijin needs more monies.

At this point, they want to make you almost feel ashamed that ur a freemium player, its becoming rediculous. Atm, sealclubbing lower tiers just to have enough SL for higher tiers is starting to become the norm. Honestly, i dont know why war thunder isnt having a massive decline in player base, playing as a new player, constantly dying to skilled players can not be fun gameplay.


I don't think non-premiums should have any say in how the game is run. Leeching a game and then complaining is about as low as you can go.

That being said I have premium and it's miserable. The grind doesn't get better (in fact it's gotten worse), the SL/RP nerf makes having premium feel like non-premium, and not even buying premium vehicles is enough to make up for the SL loss.

I've been left to do the same thing. Spawn a premium in 4.0 and seal club either air RB or ground RB for SL. And by seal club I mean rushing spawn and camping the entire game because the poor kids at that BR have no idea whats going on.
Last edited by Swag Messiah; Jun 20, 2022 @ 1:14pm
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