AGM-179 JAGM for F-15E and F-16C

[QUANTUM MECHANICS c000021a]

https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-179.html

https://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/m-187.html

Speed 1.5 Mach

Add it now.

[QUANTUM MECHANICS c000021a]

Still too buthurt to add it ? Maybe the 1.5 mach is too fast for NATO huh ??

[Kay]

They aren't yet fully in service with aircraft, they're very much still in the testing phase. It hasn't been mounted to F-16s or F-15s, only to AH-1Zs.

The AGM-187 has only been fired from super hornets, with plans to mount it to F-35s, neither of which we have in game. At best it may be on an AV-8B in a couple of years.

They wouldn't be able to use the millimetre wave radar guidance in game if they ever get added, so they'd be stuck in semi-active laser homing mode.

It'd be a Hellfire with a different seeker section that we can't even use.

[QUANTUM MECHANICS c000021a]

I found even better GBU-53/B StormBreaker.... Guess why it was not still implemented yet ??

[elsimate]

Originally posted by QUANTUM MECHANICS c000021a:

I found even better GBU-53/B StormBreaker.... Guess why it was not still implemented yet ??

Specially for you to have something to whine about?

[Kay]

Originally posted by QUANTUM MECHANICS c000021a:

I found even better GBU-53/B StormBreaker.... Guess why it was not still implemented yet ??

Because it wasn't mounted to any aircraft we have in game (the closest is the F-15E, but the one we have is an earlier variant and doesn't have upgrade packages that came before the GBU-53/B)

Even if it was implemented, it'd be missing the radar seeker/automatic IR seeker for the same reasons the Brimstone is missing them, or the Kh-38MA isn't in game

[QUANTUM MECHANICS c000021a]

Originally posted by Kay:

Originally posted by QUANTUM MECHANICS c000021a:

I found even better GBU-53/B StormBreaker.... Guess why it was not still implemented yet ??

Because it wasn't mounted to any aircraft we have in game (the closest is the F-15E, but the one we have is an earlier variant and doesn't have upgrade packages that came before the GBU-53/B)

Even if it was implemented, it'd be missing the radar seeker/automatic IR seeker for the same reasons the Brimstone is missing them, or the Kh-38MA isn't in game

https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/FOID/Reading%20Room/Selected_Acquisition_Reports/FY_2022_SARS/SDB_II_SAR_DEC_2022.pdf#:~:text=Small%20Diameter%20Bomb%20Increment%20II%20%28SDB%20II%29%2C%20GBU-53%2FB%2C,attack%20mobile%20targets%20from%20standoff%2C%20through%20adverse%20weather.

The F-15E can already equip them.
And still the point of ``not in service yet`` is just failure of common sense since we have tanks like Challanger 3

[Riggex]

My brother in Christ, can we stop asking for legitimately game breaking CAS - when current top tier AA is already on it's knees begging to be put out it's misery.

[QUANTUM MECHANICS c000021a]

Originally posted by Riggex:

My brother in Christ, can we stop asking for legitimately game breaking CAS - when current top tier AA is already on it's knees begging to be put out it's misery.

Because gaijin nerfs everything which is not rusian....

[Kay]

Originally posted by QUANTUM MECHANICS c000021a:

Originally posted by Kay:

Because it wasn't mounted to any aircraft we have in game (the closest is the F-15E, but the one we have is an earlier variant and doesn't have upgrade packages that came before the GBU-53/B)

Even if it was implemented, it'd be missing the radar seeker/automatic IR seeker for the same reasons the Brimstone is missing them, or the Kh-38MA isn't in game

The F-15E can already equip them.
And still the point of ``not in service yet`` is just failure of common sense since we have tanks like Challanger 3

Almost like I literally stated why the F-15E in game can't equip them

Originally posted by Kay:

(the closest is the F-15E, but the one we have is an earlier variant and doesn't have upgrade packages that came before the GBU-53/B)

It's an older F-15E, as evidenced by the lack of upgrades that happened before the GBU-53/B came into service.

Originally posted by Kay:

And still the point of ``not in service yet`` is just failure of common sense since we have tanks like Challanger 3

We have the Challenger 3 TD, the Technology Demonstrator, not the actual Challenger 3. We have a vehicle that was actually built and shown to the UK military in that configuration.

I also didn't say it's not in service yet. That wasn't one of my points.

And again, even if it did get into the game, it'd just be another SDB I since the extra seeker modes wouldn't be usable, for the same reason the Brimstone's radar/IR modes aren't usable, and the same reason the Kh-38MA (A Russian missile) isn't in game.

[Riggex]

Originally posted by QUANTUM MECHANICS c000021a:

Because gaijin nerfs everything which is not rusian....

And so, the solution to that, in your eyes, is for all of us to eat our own s**t, so long as RU mains have to smell our breath?

I don't see how objectively making the game even worse by adding more non-counterable CAS helps anything or anyone.

KH-38's are busted. The solution to that problem is not to give others busted missiles - it's to give them AA actually capable of standing up to KH38's (And the thing launching them).

We can't just keep adding increasingly powerful CAS munitions whilst AA has been left to rot for years. It's a race to the bottom.

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

Originally posted by QUANTUM MECHANICS c000021a:

I found even better GBU-53/B StormBreaker.... Guess why it was not still implemented yet ??

Because its time hasn't come yet. Now go play with your Hornet budd (pack version of course)

[Kay]

Originally posted by Riggex:

KH-38's are busted. The solution to that problem is not to give others busted missiles - it's to give them AA actually capable of standing up to KH38's (And the thing launching them).

CIWS or similar anti-missile systems would be really cool to have in game, assuming they have some concessions to make them effective against long range missiles

[LtCOL.Ghost]

i would be happy if they added the grand slam bomb, 22,000 lbs of wholesome goodness carried by a lancaster.

need it for trolling mates in a custom battle. purely scientific.

[BlackWolf9988]

Originally posted by QUANTUM MECHANICS c000021a:

Originally posted by Riggex:

My brother in Christ, can we stop asking for legitimately game breaking CAS - when current top tier AA is already on it's knees begging to be put out it's misery.

Because gaijin nerfs everything which is not rusian....

>looks at the russian air tree
are you sure about that?

[j.yellow28]

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

Originally posted by QUANTUM MECHANICS c000021a:

Because gaijin nerfs everything which is not rusian....

>looks at the russian air tree
are you sure about that?

i think he was refuring to the panstir which can kill u a second or so after u spawn in if hes just stairing at ur air spawn.