Am I wasting my time playing the unintended way?

[Rennikz]

I ask this is someone who has only just started, and has recently gone to youtube to find advice on how to play better. The one thing I seem to keep seeing is that bombers and the concept of bombing in general are complete wastes of time, and not what people are here for.

I enjoy bombing. The premises of bombers attacking targets being backed up by fighters, or engaging ground targets with later jets and heavy ordinance (which I'll admit I'm not at that point yet), are what interest me. Hell, there what I signed up for. I'm looking for something to fill a PlanetSide itch, with mixed ground and air combat.
Is the game 100% about dog fighting in the players and developers eyes?
I'm not mad, I just want to know if I'm wasting my time here trying to make the game something It's not, before sinking too much into this, or worse, possibly irritating others.

[GLORYHOLE OPERATOR]

you are not however the maps are very poorly designed and most often than not , jet bombers will get blown out of the sky before they reach the targets

Also there is the extra frustration when attack jets will go for bases without pinging the map and u end up wasting bombs or having to attack a different target (then number 1 problem i mentioned applies again)

[Eftwyrd]

If you are still enjoying yourself then how is that a waste?

Don’t worry so much about what other people think, as certain elements on this forum will continue to tell us ‘noone enjoys naval’ and yet there are plenty of us that do that too

There may come a time where bombing becomes too difficult for you in a lot of modes because the aircraft intercepting you are just too good, you don’t have enough time to get to targets. The only mode mostly immune to this is sim because of the much larger maps with usually fewer players so you can find a way

If you want combined arms battles that is what ground rb is for, ground attack aircraft never becomes obsolete and will always be valuable, particularly against a certain subset of players that think the best defense against air is crying on the forums for it to be removed (hint: gaijin have said no for ten years). You might face almost zero resistance or you might get stonewalled by someone competent but it’s always worth trying

[cardboard man]

If you are trying to bomb in air RB you will basically always have a bad time except for with a few specific planes that are either so fast basically nothing can catch them or things like the wyvern that can defend themselves against the bad fighter players that usually go straight for bombers/attackers.

In high tier jets half the team is premium fighters that take full bomb loads and will usually get the bases before you can in an attacker or strike aircraft. And in the prop plane tiers all the heavy bombers have been nerfed over the years to the point that your plane falls apart if someone looks at it angrily and the AI gunners cant shoot anything even at max crew skill. Even if you get really good at aiming them manually most of the time you will just get a mutual kill because even though you killed them you took 1 hit from them and it makes you fall out of the sky.

I would expect they are probably more fun to play in ground RB but i don't play it much so i'm not sure. Also I don't know about air arcade, I have not played it for a long time, but i would expect they would be a bit better than in RB.

[LtCOL.Ghost]

if you can get with some decent players (not skilled players but decent people) who are willing to escort your bomber and keep enemy fighters away, you will have a ton of fun bombing even if you get shot down. bombers are meant to have an air escort and so far i have found that when its a group of bombers with escorts the experience alone makes it very worth the time put in.

thats not to say you will not have fun playing solo, just my take on how i found fun playing the game.

[Wandering Flare]

Bombers have been severely nerfed years ago and these days are nothing but a juicy target for some fighter to cut in half with a couple 7.62 rounds while the gunners ignore it entirely or miss it completely. You will also not find any use in an average teammate, so you will have to get a squad to back you up, preferably fighters that will fly ahead of you to dispatch any incoming hostiles rather than get on them when they get to you, because if anything gets to you, you are as good as dead.

I also find something cathartic in bombers as a concept, but in this game, without any backup because I won't subject anyone to playing it with me, it's an unattainable thing unless I go into Simulator Battles, which I don't have a joystick for.

[bobitoi]

Bombers are 'fun' at lower tiers, but once you face superprops and jets, you're just an easy kill in ARB. Just play at your pace and enjoy the game, because there are many situations where you couldn't have done anything to prevent a bad outcome in an engagement. Never get mad when an interceptor actually does the very thing it was designed for. You should also play with a buddy, makes the game 10x time more fun especially with bombers.

[Spungy bob]

It's not a waste if it's what you enjoy. If you like bombers over fighters, play bombers. If you don't want to grind, don't grind. Just play for fun and play the game how you want to and how you enjoy it.

[Cat]

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

I also find something cathartic in bombers as a concept, but in this game, without any backup because I won't subject anyone to playing it with me, it's an unattainable thing unless I go into Simulator Battles, which I don't have a joystick for.

Just a heads up, Bomber sim works fine with mouse and keyboard its just a little different when you start but you can get used to it easily

[Windex_cleaner15]

I agree bombing in Air RB is a waste of time. You're an easy target, but bombing simulator mode is the best way to grind. Personally I can easily get 100k+ from using my premium harrier by flying around and bombing battlefields with the GBU-39s.

[DOOPs Greatest Admiral]

Only play bombers in Sim, they are actually viable in that mode, no other.

[Rommell8]

you can manually control the Bomber guns... its tricky to learn all the buttons for that

also... your gunners will use the extra gunner skill i think its called, not the regular gunnery skill. without good points in that skill, the tail and side gunners dont hit squat most of the time when auto firing.

last... tier2 is the sweetspot for bombers, by tier 4 the fighters can climb way too fast. Tier 3 isn't horrible, but usually you'll be a big target.

*a lot is how you approach the enemy and timed with ally fighters... you dont need direct cover, just someone to keep the enemy busy.

[{H.B.M.N} FrEsH Dumbledore]

If you enjoy bombing, this game is *not* for you.
*MAYBE* if you bring a squadron of friends who will protect you, MAYBE then. But even then its hardly enjoyable

[Khergit Horse Archer]

i dont even play planes but bombers r food unless ur playing ground battols

[Marlowe-33]

Memphis Belle is one of my fav movies of all time , sadly the warthunder long range bomber experience is pain , suffering and frustraion.

i did try to play them for a while , you know how many times i managed to land a wellington bomber after a drop in realistic battles??

















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[TH3H4\/0K]

You are not doing it worng, I mean you do due to poor map and game design.

Fact that bombers are spawned so low and it is easy to get them, they are slow and big targets make you just free kill. Only possibility to not be a free kill in bomber is to take flying fortress with maxed crew members skills. So if someone will reach near to you will be destroyed within seconds.

Problem is that development of this game sucks from very long time, most of players which are here, you can check scoreboards are people who spent here tooooooo much time.

Your frustration is reason why there is no new blood in game. but devs do not care as long as they have paychecks.

Do you wasting your time? yes and no, depends as everyone will say. For example I play 80/20, 80% of my games are ground/tanks and I'm destroyed due to CAS dominance in this game which is illogical. I mean I want play tanks but someone decided to add planes to tank wars, paste clown icon to symbolize this person, I wish to really meet this guy :). So do I waste time? Yes and there is no progress within my gameplay or tech trees I should play other games which are not P2W or have better graphic,story, fariness etc. BUT I play this game due to quite unique mechanics of tank warfare where you need to know where to shot and you can't shot randomly and hope for a kill <- to this point I started is it even true anymore due to BR bull*hit.

I enjoy few battles over week as mostly this game bring frustration, you never will be good as BR will crush your little dreams about fair game, wallet warriors will do same, not to mention people with 100 lvl 10k hours in game and fully developed tech trees who also pay for grass on tank etc.

The only possibility to have fun in bombers is to get party/ squardon who will do anyhow teamplay and will cover you during bombing, but it won't be profitable for them as this game do not score you for covering bombers, paste clown icon again :)