russian tanks with empty auto loader

[The Zyklon Don]

is there some bug or glitch going on where you can have an empty auto loader and still fire? i keep seeing chinese players with t-80ud and they have empty auto loaders. you can't ammo rack them and they somehow still fireback. whats going on?

[Chaoslord 87]

Maybe there was still one round in the main gun?

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Maybe just players taking very limited amount of rounds into battle, not the worst idea given how ridiculously easy it is to ammo rack them?

With the way top tier is at the moment, might just as well take only a single round, hope you survive the first shot and get a kill in return before you inevitably get killed by the next tank half a second later or bombed by a plane.

Frankly, even if you are playing exceptionally well and don't die, the match is likely over before you had the time to fire more than 4-5 rounds.

[Mephisto]

well, somehow gaijin thinks propellant doesn't explode ...
seriously, a lot of the slots should be empty if, as mentioned above, the player has a reduced ammo load, but sometimes, it's getting gaijined by ruzzian bias

[Wandering Flare]

A few possibilities:
1) They survived for so long they've run out of ammo. Happened to me quite a lot with a full autoloader load.
2) It's visual bug of the x-ray and the ammo is actually still there, just not taking any damage as it often does.
3) Extremely rare bug where the ammo did detonate, but the tank did not die. I've only witnessed it once myself, a friendly T-90M burst into a fire jet like it normally does when ammoracked, but the tank was still alive and backed up to a nearby point to resupply.

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

3) Extremely rare bug where the ammo did detonate, but the tank did not die. I've only witnessed it once myself, a friendly T-90M burst into a fire jet like it normally does when ammoracked, but the tank was still alive and backed up to a nearby point to resupply.

That is not a bug, the T-90M actually has blowout panels for the excess ammo stowage in the turret.

Contrary to popular belief, autoloaders aren't what is really liable for ammo detonations since they have thin armor as well as spall liners, and unlike in WT are very hard to hit in the first place, the game just does a very bad depiction like it does with so many things.

[Wandering Flare]

Originally posted by whatdoesthisbuttondo?:

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

3) Extremely rare bug where the ammo did detonate, but the tank did not die. I've only witnessed it once myself, a friendly T-90M burst into a fire jet like it normally does when ammoracked, but the tank was still alive and backed up to a nearby point to resupply.

That is not a bug, the T-90M actually has blowout panels for the excess ammo stowage in the turret.

Contrary to popular belief, autoloaders aren't what is really liable for ammo detonations since they have thin armor as well as spall liners, and unlike in WT are very hard to hit in the first place, the game just does a very bad depiction like it does with so many things.

Well that's nice to know after I've been extensively told that T-90M does not have any blowout capacity as just another "NATO tanks better" argument. Not sure how the jet of flame coming out of the top of the turret constitutes a blowout without cooking the crew in the process, but maybe that's the bug part of what happened.

I know that the ammo is less likely to detonate because of being soaked in fuel, but could the blowout account for all the other times I've clearly hit and even destroyed ammo without any effect on the tank itself?

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

Originally posted by whatdoesthisbuttondo?:

That is not a bug, the T-90M actually has blowout panels for the excess ammo stowage in the turret.

Contrary to popular belief, autoloaders aren't what is really liable for ammo detonations since they have thin armor as well as spall liners, and unlike in WT are very hard to hit in the first place, the game just does a very bad depiction like it does with so many things.

Well that's nice to know after I've been extensively told that T-90M does not have any blowout capacity as just another "NATO tanks better" argument. Not sure how the jet of flame coming out of the top of the turret constitutes a blowout without cooking the crew in the process, but maybe that's the bug part of what happened.

I know that the ammo is less likely to detonate because of being soaked in fuel, but could the blowout account for all the other times I've clearly hit and even destroyed ammo without any effect on the tank itself?

I haven't paid much attention in game to be honest, but the blowout is in rear turret bustle, not sure what the vent direction is without looking at schematic, but might be upwards.

I wouldn't hold that argument against people though, you'll find mostly incorrect information on the internet about it saying the T-90M doesn't have the feature.

Basically its niche knowledge that you have to really be interested in to find. Very interesting nonetheless, as it is a perfect example of typical compromises with Soviet/Russian tank design philosophy.

They did add the bustle for the extra storage, but did not take such measures with the autoloaders, as it was shown that almost all cook offs in combat were originating from turret ammo stowage and autoloaders almost never hit, so they took the typical practical approach.