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U.S Heavies Need to be Up BRed
Being At 6.7 is totally unfair i know some people are going to be like "wElL AlL YoU HaVe tO dO iS KiLl ItS BaRrEl" but i cant do it if gaijin only makes it YELLOW OR ORANGE And the armour is TOO THICK FOR 6.7 with very few weakspots pls Up BR U.S Heavies gaijin
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Kay Mar 10 @ 9:33pm 
Depends which US heavies you're talking about.

The T34 is, frontally, a Tiger II H with more weakspots. The side hull is very similar too, just the turret sides are thicker.

The T26E1-1 has ok armour with a lot of weakspots.

The T26E5 has solid armour with few weakspots, but an underpowered gun and it's very slow.

None of them are really 7.0+ material
Mf admit no idea of the weakspots of these US heavy vehicles.
Last edited by Lt-AlphaFoxtrot; Mar 10 @ 10:18pm
Aleuvian Mar 10 @ 10:50pm 
Originally posted by Kay:
Depends which US heavies you're talking about.

The T34 is, frontally, a Tiger II H with more weakspots. The side hull is very similar too, just the turret sides are thicker.

The T26E1-1 has ok armour with a lot of weakspots.

The T26E5 has solid armour with few weakspots, but an underpowered gun and it's very slow.

None of them are really 7.0+ material

The T34 has superior armor to the Tiger II (H) in that, in order to penetrate it, you must aim for a significantly smaller hull MG port. The entire front of the Tiger II's turret is a weakspot with ammo right behind it. Likewise, if you are able to get to the side of the enemy at all, I would be shocked if you managed to lose the engagement.

The T26E1-1 has buggy armor that can outright delete shells at time, or the game can forget the tank has armor at all. It has a great gun that holds up at long ranges, despite a longer reload.

The T26E5 is, in my opinion, the single best US 6.7 vehicle. The gun is far from overpowered and it's only 2km/h slower than the Tiger II, while having superior armor. In my honest opinion, the T26E5 is literally just a better version of the Tiger II in performance, and plays way better overall.

EDIT: I do agree that they don't need to go up to 7.0, but your assessment of the tanks is just bad.
Last edited by Aleuvian; Mar 10 @ 10:50pm
Originally posted by Aleuvian:
Originally posted by Kay:
Depends which US heavies you're talking about.

The T34 is, frontally, a Tiger II H with more weakspots. The side hull is very similar too, just the turret sides are thicker.

The T26E1-1 has ok armour with a lot of weakspots.

The T26E5 has solid armour with few weakspots, but an underpowered gun and it's very slow.

None of them are really 7.0+ material

The T34 has superior armor to the Tiger II (H) in that, in order to penetrate it, you must aim for a significantly smaller hull MG port. The entire front of the Tiger II's turret is a weakspot with ammo right behind it. Likewise, if you are able to get to the side of the enemy at all, I would be shocked if you managed to lose the engagement.

The T26E1-1 has buggy armor that can outright delete shells at time, or the game can forget the tank has armor at all. It has a great gun that holds up at long ranges, despite a longer reload.

The T26E5 is, in my opinion, the single best US 6.7 vehicle. The gun is far from overpowered and it's only 2km/h slower than the Tiger II, while having superior armor. In my honest opinion, the T26E5 is literally just a better version of the Tiger II in performance, and plays way better overall.

EDIT: I do agree that they don't need to go up to 7.0, but your assessment of the tanks is just bad.

The heck are you talking about? T34 has a lower glacis that can be penned by everything at the BR, as well as a couple turret weakspots. Also it has a big muzzle break, making it easier to take out the gun.
t26e1 has a big weakspot on the left side of the turret which for some reason aren't on the other pershings as much. it also has a vertical drive that can be EASILY destroyed...
and E5 is actually a tiger 2 equivalent, except the tiger reloads faster, and has a better round.
I play all these tanks, and honestly I have no problem with any of their BRs.
Kay Mar 10 @ 11:40pm 
Originally posted by Aleuvian:
Originally posted by Kay:
Depends which US heavies you're talking about.

The T34 is, frontally, a Tiger II H with more weakspots. The side hull is very similar too, just the turret sides are thicker.

The T26E1-1 has ok armour with a lot of weakspots.

The T26E5 has solid armour with few weakspots, but an underpowered gun and it's very slow.

None of them are really 7.0+ material

The T34 has superior armor to the Tiger II (H) in that, in order to penetrate it, you must aim for a significantly smaller hull MG port. The entire front of the Tiger II's turret is a weakspot with ammo right behind it. Likewise, if you are able to get to the side of the enemy at all, I would be shocked if you managed to lose the engagement.

The turret face of the T34 is effectively within 5mm of thickness of the Tiger II H's turret face because it's cast steel, with the gun breech directly behind it along with most of the crew. This being on top of the hull MG port and lower plate weakspots the Tiger II doesn't really have.

Originally posted by Aleuvian:
The T26E1-1 has buggy armor that can outright delete shells at time, or the game can forget the tank has armor at all. It has a great gun that holds up at long ranges, despite a longer reload.

It doesn't really, it has a similar gun to the Tiger II with less pen (marginally but still), a MUCH longer reload, and external elevation gear you can take out with MGs. that, along with it being very slow with massive cheek weaspots just below the add on armour where all the ammo is, make it less durable than the Tiger II is (in general a worse heavy tank IMO)

Originally posted by Aleuvian:
The T26E5 is, in my opinion, the single best US 6.7 vehicle. The gun is far from overpowered and it's only 2km/h slower than the Tiger II, while having superior armor. In my honest opinion, the T26E5 is literally just a better version of the Tiger II in performance, and plays way better overall.

The pen is massively lower to the point it has trouble with most 6.7s, which in turn have trouble with it's armour. You trade the ability to penetrate your enemy for their ability to penetrate you, that's not a win.

I much prefer the Tiger II (or even the T26E1-1) to the T26E5, it's far better to have killed your enemy than it is to be unable to penetrate each other.

Originally posted by Aleuvian:
EDIT: I do agree that they don't need to go up to 7.0, but your assessment of the tanks is just bad.

No, it isn't, you just don't have the same experience in and against these tanks that I do.
Last edited by Kay; Mar 10 @ 11:40pm
FizzyElf Mar 10 @ 11:44pm 
Originally posted by FieryLizard1256:
Being At 6.7 is totally unfair i know some people are going to be like "wElL AlL YoU HaVe tO dO iS KiLl ItS BaRrEl" but i cant do it if gaijin only makes it YELLOW OR ORANGE And the armour is TOO THICK FOR 6.7 with very few weakspots pls Up BR U.S Heavies gaijin
Which heavy are you specifically struggling with? And if needed I do own nearly all of the heavies in the US tree up to 7.0 along with having every nation well past rank 4 so I can help you find a way to kill the US heavies with most of the tanks around 5.7-6.7 (I'm not sure what you are driving but I probably own it and likely have at least a little play time in it.)

With what you provided all we have is speculation and a damage model blunder that came out of the barrel damage which was updated like a year ago.
Jellyfrosh Mar 10 @ 11:48pm 
"REEEE HEAVY TANKS HAVE ARMOR REEEE"

Flank them. It's not hard. At all.
Germany suffers
American heavy's don't have anywhere near the same level of armor and or mobility of the tiger 2 that are 6.7. The only advantage that American heavy's have is the m2 browning.

T34 you can shoot the driver - mg gunners hatch if you have a TINNY elevation advantage and kill the entire crew with the tiger 2. Shoot right above the gun mantlet there is a small bit of weak flat armor that can get a turret knockout. if you have a angle right below the gun mantlet, weld point between the upper and lower front plate, the MASSIVE "SHOT ME HERE" mg port, commander cupola.

m26 e-1 is in short, the same as the t34 but with the "armor flaps" holes being weak points as well and the exposed elevation mechanism. This can't be MG to death like others stated but can be taken out by heavy mg fire or a single round of almost anything. The E1 is just the normal m26 (Which is only slightly better then a tiger E) with some poorly slapped on armor and a big gun.

The M26 E5 is the exact same as the T34 for weakpoints. I'd say the M26 E5 is the in between of the tiger 2 H and the tiger h1 in terms of where it should be.

The ONLY american heavy tanks you should be scared of in a tiger 2 is the T32's, mostly the T32 E1 but that would be in a almost max uptier. The T32 E1 has almost 0 weak spots to the long 88 from the front. The E1 unlike the normal t32 does not have a mg weakspot. If you encounter a normal T32 shoot the mg port. For a E1 try to get any angle. DONT HEAD ON IT! If you try to head on attack at level elevation your best chance to kill it is a cupola shot. There is a very very small area on the t32 that bulges up on the roof that is like 25.4mm thick. But volumetric is likely to screw you on that but that is also true with the cupola. If you can aim good and have a slight right or left angle on a t32 - t32 e1 you maybe able to pen the side, but it is a super tinny spot you can pen. But from the side, the T32 - T32 E1 is easier to pen then the m26's.
Last edited by Cop Unit 12; Mar 11 @ 6:09am
Aleuvian Mar 11 @ 10:38am 
Originally posted by Cop Unit 12:
The ONLY american heavy tanks you should be scared of in a tiger 2 is the T32's, mostly the T32 E1 but that would be in a almost max uptier.

You should be scared of any tank that isn't a T-34-85 in the Tiger II, because everything else can penetrate the front of your turret and instantly kill you. The weakspot on the Tiger II is absolutely massive relative to literally all of the American heavies, and players misidentify which American heavy they are fighting all the time.

While the Tiger II is a good tank, it's my opinion and experience that the T26E5 just outperforms it in everything except raw gun performance.
Spungy bob Mar 11 @ 12:18pm 
Originally posted by Kay:
Depends which US heavies you're talking about.

The T34 is, frontally, a Tiger II H with more weakspots. The side hull is very similar too, just the turret sides are thicker.

The T26E1-1 has ok armour with a lot of weakspots.

The T26E5 has solid armour with few weakspots, but an underpowered gun and it's very slow.

None of them are really 7.0+ material
The T-34 has a goofy ass weak spot, it's on the roof where it starts to slant backwards. I was cross mapped by a Tiger H1 and hit in that spot, other than that, it's not really 7.0 capable
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