ZBD-04 at 10.0 is just sad

[Nick]

ATGM is tragic. 550mm at 10.0 makes it worthless at killing anything. Leopards 2s+ abrams are completely immune outside turret ring and the damage is trash. How do people think this is good? All the barrel fired atgms in the Soviet and Chinese trees are leagues above this trash.

[BlackWolf9988]

meh, unlike the tow you can fire it on the move which is pretty strong.

[Sigma boy]

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

meh, unlike the tow you can fire it on the move which is pretty strong.

This, I can't do this in my Mephisto 8.7 (I play it top tier because it still destroys) but holy heck, does 700-900mm atgm do good damage to all tanks except russian t80bvm's whose tracks and fuel tanks can tank all that. It's a 50/50 shooting russian tanks again lmao even with my 575mm darts from the leclerc.

[<I^_^]I_1C3Qu33n_X33_I[^_^]>]

Originally posted by Sigma boy:

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

meh, unlike the tow you can fire it on the move which is pretty strong.

This, I can't do this in my Mephisto 8.7 (I play it top tier because it still destroys) but holy heck, does 700-900mm atgm do good damage to all tanks except russian t80bvm's whose tracks and fuel tanks can tank all that. It's a 50/50 shooting russian tanks again lmao even with my 575mm darts from the leclerc.

If you think russia or china have more pen you are wrong the chinese darts are 576 and the russian ones are 579mm, the only ones with very powerful ones are germany and america which is odd enough, especially germany since they dont even have DU rounds and in a magical way its better than the M829A2, same as the chinese or russian ones they are underpowered as well.

[Nick]

Originally posted by Sigma boy:

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

meh, unlike the tow you can fire it on the move which is pretty strong.

This, I can't do this in my Mephisto 8.7 (I play it top tier because it still destroys) but holy heck, does 700-900mm atgm do good damage to all tanks except russian t80bvm's whose tracks and fuel tanks can tank all that. It's a 50/50 shooting russian tanks again lmao even with my 575mm darts from the leclerc.

All abrams+all leopards except 2a7 has a threshold of just under 700mm for heat. I've brought the WMA up to 12.0 and had plenty of luck because it's ATGM \crosses that threshold. This is why the ZBD is trash. fire on the move all you like, but you aren't crossing that threshold and since the atgm nerf it can be tricky to get them to hit small weakspots. The Mephesto is unironically stronger than thd ZBD at more than a full BR lower

[Nick]

Originally posted by <I^_^I_1C3Qu33n_X33_I^_^>:

Originally posted by Sigma boy:

This, I can't do this in my Mephisto 8.7 (I play it top tier because it still destroys) but holy heck, does 700-900mm atgm do good damage to all tanks except russian t80bvm's whose tracks and fuel tanks can tank all that. It's a 50/50 shooting russian tanks again lmao even with my 575mm darts from the leclerc.

If you think russia or china have more pen you are wrong the chinese darts are 576 and the russian ones are 579mm, the only ones with very powerful ones are germany and america which is odd enough, especially germany since they dont even have DU rounds and in a magical way its better than the M829A2, same as the chinese or russian ones they are underpowered as well.

play the leclerc and tell me OFLF1 (which is KE-W, a round only found at 11.7) is equal to 3bm60. It even weighs less