Japan absolute garbage

[DIIIZZY]

air battles, ground battles it doesnt matter, everything between 4.3 and 6.7 is just overtiered doodoo (minus Ki-84 ko and J2M2). How is it possible to make the balancing this bad? no other nation is such a struggle bus.

[Bison]

Well theres the opinion good chunk of players belive: half of WT playerbase is braindead and belive they can outturn zero, hence it gets higher br almost every other update.

That being said japanese twin engine fighters are actually pretty damm good most of the times and usually have favorable Brs unlike single engine fighters (not all of them mind you i find Ki-44 very nasty at its br).

[Zeromentor]

I've only played with the lowest tier Japanese tanks... And to say I wasn't impressed is still being too kind. As for fighting against them, the higher tiers seem okay or on-par with other countries, and certain tanks (or really, a specific Tank Destroyer) can seem very powerful when you are going up against them.

But low tier aircraft seem pretty good. The Props, at least, seem better than my Swedish planes.

[Bison]

Originally posted by Zeromentor:

I've only played with the lowest tier Japanese tanks... And to say I wasn't impressed is still being too kind. As for fighting against them, the higher tiers seem okay or on-par with other countries, and certain tanks (or really, a specific Tank Destroyer) can seem very powerful when you are going up against them.

But low tier aircraft seem pretty good. The Props, at least, seem better than my Swedish planes.

In terms of decent low tier japanese tanks they begin around 2.0-2.7. before that there are some bright exceptions but its mostly rough start.

[Warlock]

I'm just finishing spading up all Japan props in BR order, now putting RP into R2Y2.

The worst slogs were spading Ki-49 bombers (although, this did make me better at hitting ground targets with front / rear turrets) , and spading the Zeroes felt grindy for a while, although this did increase my situational awareness and the niche became fun.

there were a lot of very fun planes in the lineup. early bombers are a riot in arcade, and cool to fly out in the other modes. Interceptors with big guns. The Ki-61 was a good plane for me.

there's too many good planes to ignore Japan IMO

I just spaded the first N1K1, and that was a little rough due to low ammo and overall meh until the engine upgrades

If you like WW2 planes eventually you will heed the call of the Emperor

[Nadirivar]

Japan is fine, its you

[Winters_Bane]

Originally posted by DIIIZZY:

air battles, ground battles it doesnt matter, everything between 4.3 and 6.7 is just overtiered doodoo (minus Ki-84 ko and J2M2). How is it possible to make the balancing this bad? no other nation is such a struggle bus.

WHAT

NO

A6M5 (all variants) OP

Also just play arcade in japan and turn fight literally everyone its basically impossible to die

I was spawncamping and killed 9 players in the A6M5 hei with one life and thats not a one off, thats a common statistic

and the Ki-61 / Ki-100 is supreme

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Winters_Bane:

I was spawncamping and killed 9 players in the A6M5 hei with one life and thats not a one off, thats a common statistic

Arcade Air Domination is dirty business

[DIIIZZY]

ayo i love japanese planes, i am just saying most of them are overtiered if you compare them to US, Russia, Germans, especially late props like N1K variants, late Ki-61, a6m5s, j2m5, etc. just look at the late spits or p-51s, yak 3s they are all more favorable in the br range.

[DIIIZZY]

you gotta sweat every round to get a kill because everyone is way faster than you meanwhile in a for example yak-3u the gameplay is much smoother in the same br range

[Eftwyrd]

Only real answer is it’s a feedback loop

Balancing is done by average performance, so what do you think happens to ‘minor’ nations not played by a whole lot of people?

The minority of extremely good players have a disproportionately large affect on the overall average, because there aren’t thousands of newbies screwing them up like happens with more popular nations and vehicles like German tigers

So once they skew the average performance metrics enough the vehicles that appear to be over-performing are put up in BR

And once that happens a lot of the less skilled players having a bad time give up

So when the less skilled players are driven away and the more skilled players who were responsible for the vehicle being put up in the first place now form an even higher percentage of that vehicles players. What do you think happens when they keep performing well

Japans aircraft in particular are notorious for this, not only because of a minority of good players who inflated their performance, but also being propped up by exceptionally bad newbies playing other nations that kept trying to turn fight against them, even in aircraft that wildly outperform them if they only flew them correctly

[ToreDL87]

Coming from Japan, branched out to other nations and holy sh*t, why wasn't I getting clapped and deleted out of the air A LOT more??

[Winters_Bane]

Originally posted by ToreDL87:

Coming from Japan, branched out to other nations and holy sh*t, why wasn't I getting clapped and deleted out of the air A LOT more??

probably because you are slightly better than most braindead ppl

[Sup_DiM0N]

Japan gets best torpedoes for range and speed in naval....

[Baby Punching Marathon]

grait britain has some teribale tanks and planes i know because ive benn playing it for 2 1/2 years

[Lucky_Star_Fan]

I think the 4.0 Zero is solid and the B7A2 is quite good, but yes, the other options really have been pushed too high. J2Ms were good for awhile but are now all too high, A6Ms are mostly all too high and Ki-61s are definitely too high(maybe the 3.3 one is okay?).

Oh yeah, can anyone explain the purpose of the N1Ks? They look cool and were historically good, but I simply see no reason to fly them over the Ki-84s.