weak German tanks

[Ghost]

I've been playing WT for years and I've been getting upset for years. I have your German tank, I shoot at an opponent who has a weaker tank and yet, my shots don't hit, he shoots once and my tank explodes straight away. Why are the German tanks in this game so incredibly weak and have been for 10 years?

[Fully operational death star]

German ground is the most handheld section of this game, i think you might just be really bad

[Chaoslord 87]

Sounds like a Tiger Fanboy, who didn´t angled his Armor.

[Ranold Arzenschwegger🕹]

Fully operational death star님이 먼저 게시:

German ground is the most handheld section of this game, i think you might just be really bad

What you write here is factually absolutely wrong. The data shows that the win rate of the Germans in ground RB is very poor. This shows that the German vehicles are in a pretty bad position. Anyone can view the data at WT Data Project. Why gaijin deliberately weakens the Germans more and more is a mystery to me. For the maps (forced melee combat in 90% of cases) the German tanks are also very badly suited. Gaijin is deliberately heading towards increasingly unplayable maps for Germans.

[Fully operational death star]

Ranold Arzenschwegger🕹님이 먼저 게시:

Fully operational death star님이 먼저 게시:

German ground is the most handheld section of this game, i think you might just be really bad

What you write here is factually absolutely wrong. The data shows that the win rate of the Germans in ground RB is very poor. This shows that the German vehicles are in a pretty bad position. Anyone can view the data at WT Data Project. Why gaijin deliberately weakens the Germans more and more is a mystery to me. For the maps (forced melee combat in 90% of cases) the German tanks are also very badly suited. Gaijin is deliberately heading towards increasingly unplayable maps for Germans.

the win rates are bad because new players mostly pick germany... funny, its the same with america and USSR too... not because the vehicles are bad, but because the players are. Causation and correlation. all serial killers drink water thus water is evil and makes people commit homicide

[Fr4ntic]

Ranold Arzenschwegger🕹님이 먼저 게시:

Fully operational death star님이 먼저 게시:

German ground is the most handheld section of this game, i think you might just be really bad

What you write here is factually absolutely wrong. The data shows that the win rate of the Germans in ground RB is very poor. This shows that the German vehicles are in a pretty bad position. Anyone can view the data at WT Data Project. Why gaijin deliberately weakens the Germans more and more is a mystery to me. For the maps (forced melee combat in 90% of cases) the German tanks are also very badly suited. Gaijin is deliberately heading towards increasingly unplayable maps for Germans.

Almost 5k hours of warthunder and I thougth how can you say this amd be so bad apperently.
And then I saw the blatand hour boosting.

Keep trying to look cool and blame evrything else but you, youll get their eventually.

[Ranold Arzenschwegger🕹]

Fully operational death star님이 먼저 게시:

Ranold Arzenschwegger🕹님이 먼저 게시:

What you write here is factually absolutely wrong. The data shows that the win rate of the Germans in ground RB is very poor. This shows that the German vehicles are in a pretty bad position. Anyone can view the data at WT Data Project. Why gaijin deliberately weakens the Germans more and more is a mystery to me. For the maps (forced melee combat in 90% of cases) the German tanks are also very badly suited. Gaijin is deliberately heading towards increasingly unplayable maps for Germans.

the win rates are bad because new players mostly pick germany... funny, its the same with america and USSR too... not because the vehicles are bad, but because the players are. Causation and correlation. all serial killers drink water thus water is evil and makes people commit homicide

The data shows exactly the opposite of your untrue claim. You can see that with the Germans the win rates are relatively high between br1 and br3. Only later does it drop rapidly. It couldn't be clearer. You only read the statistics the way you want them and interpret flimsy and nonsensical things from it. It seems to me that you want to continue to spread here lies here despite clear evidence. I'll block you because I don't feel like dealing with trolls.

[Ryomaru Reaper]

Ranold Arzenschwegger🕹님이 먼저 게시:

Fully operational death star님이 먼저 게시:

German ground is the most handheld section of this game, i think you might just be really bad

What you write here is factually absolutely wrong. The data shows that the win rate of the Germans in ground RB is very poor. This shows that the German vehicles are in a pretty bad position. Anyone can view the data at WT Data Project. Why gaijin deliberately weakens the Germans more and more is a mystery to me. For the maps (forced melee combat in 90% of cases) the German tanks are also very badly suited. Gaijin is deliberately heading towards increasingly unplayable maps for Germans.

Actually you're describing your own comments. What data suggests this?

Likely your anecdotal experiences, and nothing else. As per usual.

[꧁ YouTube = Rockboje ꧂]

Ok here some WEAK STATS of german TANKS:
Pz.BfW IV : 376 battles = 608 Kills
Tiger 2 H : 333 battles = 521 kills
Dicker Max : 299 battles = 438 kills
Tiger H1 : 296 battles = 452 kills
Panther D : 220 battles = 310 kills
Jagdpanther : 297 battles = 435 kills

Realy... the list gos ON.
this dosnt sound like Germans Tanks performce very Bad in this game.
Most Player on german site i see are just brainless player who dont know about mechanic works.. dont research oponents weakspots and believes german tanks have to work like KV1s.

In most cases the player is the weakspot in German techtree.
Use the strengh and not the weaknesses of the Tanks and u get ur kills

[Ultraviolett]

German tanks are not the best tanks in WT and they weren´t in reality. So no prob here. Win rates on the other hand are in the first place not dependent on "nation" (e.g. Russian BS) or (a specific) tank strength, but rather on overall team performance/intelligence. Anyway you almost always play with several nation... German tanks, as said before, are not suited for most of the map designs and you can consider them more as support weapons. Esp. since you have to face mainly modern tanks.

[꧁ YouTube = Rockboje ꧂]

Ryomaru Reaper님이 먼저 게시:

꧁YouTube~Rockboje꧂님이 먼저 게시:

Ok here some WEAK STATS of german TANKS:
Pz.BfW IV : 376 battles = 608 Kills
Tiger 2 H : 333 battles = 521 kills
Dicker Max : 299 battles = 438 kills
Tiger H1 : 296 battles = 452 kills
Panther D : 220 battles = 310 kills
Jagdpanther : 297 battles = 435 kills

Realy... the list gos ON.
this dosnt sound like Germans Tanks performce very Bad in this game.
Most Player on german site i see are just brainless player who dont know about mechanic works.. dont research oponents weakspots and believes german tanks have to work like KV1s.

In most cases the player is the weakspot in German techtree.
Use the strengh and not the weaknesses of the Tanks and u get ur kills

Did you post your account stats, and extrapolating this to the rest of the userbase?

Please tell me you did not just prove my point, that this data you guys speak of, is anecdotal, meaning PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND OPINION.

Not only is this not relevant, well, only if we are talking about your skill issue, or lack of skill really. Your experience does not mean, we all have the same experience, and YOUR DATA... Is irrelevant.

You are not 100.000 players, where lots of those can actually kill another player while playing Germany.

send me a replay while u play german tanks and i can tell u what u did wrong if u miss ur chance to deal with ur oponent!

And yes.. Russia Techtree is much easyer to play, MUCH EASIER and u can play them too, johoo.

why u play and stay in Ger. tanks if u believed they are unfair ballanced and to difficult to play for u... there a lot different nations already u can explore and try out

[Ryomaru Reaper]

꧁YouTube~Rockboje꧂님이 먼저 게시:

Ryomaru Reaper님이 먼저 게시:

Did you post your account stats, and extrapolating this to the rest of the userbase?

Please tell me you did not just prove my point, that this data you guys speak of, is anecdotal, meaning PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND OPINION.

Not only is this not relevant, well, only if we are talking about your skill issue, or lack of skill really. Your experience does not mean, we all have the same experience, and YOUR DATA... Is irrelevant.

You are not 100.000 players, where lots of those can actually kill another player while playing Germany.

send me a replay while u play german tanks and i can tell u what u did wrong if u miss ur chance to deal with ur oponent!

And yes.. Russia Techtree is much easyer to play, MUCH EASIER and u can play them too, johoo.

why u play and stay in Ger. tanks if u believed they are unfair ballanced and to difficult to play for u... there a lot different nations already u can explore and try out

Bud, I tried editing my reply, but something happened and I deleted it.

I was never meaning to respond to you, since we both agree that German tanks are not weak, and it's a skill issue. The person who I thought I was commenting to, was a different person.

Actually if you read my earlier comment, I already said my opinions. They are the same as yours, though, better written.

[Lil,Doosher]

I used to play ground German till I got to the second tiger 2 and I had the same problem

But it's not germany its you, I can't blame you for learning this way sense germany encourages it by giving you very powerful tanks and very powerful armore but at some point that stops and you seem to be about there

[màrreye]

german tanks > ussr tanks

[Col. Cornbread]

Ranold Arzenschwegger🕹님이 먼저 게시:

What you write here is factually absolutely wrong. The data shows that the win rate of the Germans in ground RB is very poor. This shows that the German vehicles are in a pretty bad position. Anyone can view the data at WT Data Project. Why gaijin deliberately weakens the Germans more and more is a mystery to me. For the maps (forced melee combat in 90% of cases) the German tanks are also very badly suited. Gaijin is deliberately heading towards increasingly unplayable maps for Germans.

Don't you know the duality of German mid tier?

German tanks are the best and require no skill which is why they have high win rates but at the same time people who drive German tanks have no skill which is why they have low win rates.

[nirvana_sth]

Ghost님이 먼저 게시:

I've been playing WT for years and I've been getting upset for years. I have your German tank, I shoot at an opponent who has a weaker tank and yet, my shots don't hit, he shoots once and my tank explodes straight away. Why are the German tanks in this game so incredibly weak and have been for 10 years?

What BR are you playing?