Europe Day Event?

[Lovecraft]

Could you have an event for this holiday next year? 09.05 is Europe day commemorated for the beginnings and peace in the EU, which most nations in this game are a part of. Would love to have a EU decal or something.

[magazine2]

Hi! We have some festivities for this occasion:

https://steamcommunity.com/games/236390/announcements/detail/547860543111692311

[Lovecraft]

Originally posted by magazine2:

Hi! We have some festivities for this occasion:

https://steamcommunity.com/games/236390/announcements/detail/547860543111692311

This is victory day, though. Different thing.

[Carl folkehus bertus d.16]

Originally posted by magazine2:

Hi! We have some festivities for this occasion:

https://steamcommunity.com/games/236390/announcements/detail/547860543111692311

W answer

[Warheadmeiky]

yep and this t34 is easy to geht :D nice event

but why only a t34? the russians win the war allone? not really, if allieds dont open a front on west, russians lost the war.

but thx for the premium tank devs :)

[Eftwyrd]

Originally posted by Warheadmeiky:

yep and this t34 is easy to geht :D nice event

but why only a t34? the russians win the war allone? not really, if allieds dont open a front on west, russians lost the war.

but thx for the premium tank devs :)

Most analysis i have read agree russia would have won the war on their own, it would have just taken many more years and a horrific number of casualties

Actually it goes even further, one of the reasons the US decided to drop the atomic bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima was to scare the Red Army enough to stop... they werent actually necessary to defeat Japan as the US had an alternative planned called Operation Downfall which would have been amphibious landings dwarfing Normandy

But the western allies were concerned Stalin would turn on them, so they firstly wanted force Japans surrender before the Red Army could redeploy to the pacific theatre so they didnt have grounds for too many demands in the subsequent negotiations, as well as providing them enough of a scare that they would stop in Berlin because the Western allies armies in Europe were too small to stop the Red Army

As we know today this was very much a bluff because the US did not have enough atomic bombs available if they had proved necessary in Europe too, so had things gone differently Russia might well have rolled right over them and taken the entirety of continental Europe rather than just eastern Germany. Only being stopped at the coast because their navy could not have forced a landing, much less defended supply lines against the Royal and US navies

[Rinky]

Originally posted by Warheadmeiky:

yep and this t34 is easy to geht :D nice event

but why only a t34? the russians win the war allone? not really, if allieds dont open a front on west, russians lost the war.

but thx for the premium tank devs :)

When allies opened the front, SU was already in Europe and has broken germany's back in Moscow, Stalingrad and Kursk.
There was no Luftwaffe on D-Day because all of it was destroyed on Eastern front. There were almost no experienced infantry and tank units because all of them were destroyed on the Eastern front. You can check any western source, all of them will tell you that.

Allies faced 500k troops in Normandy. Meanwhile Germany had MILLIONS on the Eastern front. And it was far from enough because SU had much more and could provide three times that if it needed to. These numbers are easily verifiable no matter where you search for them.

[50Fathoms]

Originally posted by Warheadmeiky:

yep and this t34 is easy to geht :D nice event

but why only a t34? the russians win the war allone? not really, if allieds dont open a front on west, russians lost the war.

but thx for the premium tank devs :)

The victory over Nazi Germany had a lot to do with the Soviets’ enormous production output in terms of tanks and aircraft. However, this came at the cost of the Russians producing very few trucks and APCs, and virtually no locomotives, despite these being crucial for transporting and supplying their troops. That’s where the USA stepped in to help. Moreover, the Soviets were heavily dependent on Allied imports of aluminium and explosives. So, the Allied actually had an impact on the Soviet efforts. But the Western Front actually plays a subordinate role.
However the historians I have read so far generally agree that Nazi Germany's defeat was already certain in 1941/42, after the Battle of Moscow. This was, by the way, before the Lend-Lease Act had taken effect in any meaningful way.

[Gold Merchant Lev]

Big no to EU decal. It’s exclusionary of the British and is a German project, so we’d be commemorating the people that wrecked Europe on three occasions while excluded one of the largest contributors to freeing it.

[Rinky]

Originally posted by 50Fathoms:

Originally posted by Warheadmeiky:

yep and this t34 is easy to geht :D nice event

but why only a t34? the russians win the war allone? not really, if allieds dont open a front on west, russians lost the war.

but thx for the premium tank devs :)

The victory over Nazi Germany had a lot to do with the Soviets’ enormous production output in terms of tanks and aircraft. However, this came at the cost of the Russians producing very few trucks and APCs, and virtually no locomotives, despite these being crucial for transporting and supplying their troops. That’s where the USA stepped in to help. Moreover, the Soviets were heavily dependent on Allied imports of aluminium and explosives. So, the Allied actually had an impact on the Soviet efforts. But the Western Front actually plays a subordinate role.
However the historians I have read so far generally agree that Nazi Germany's defeat was already certain in 1941/42, after the Battle of Moscow. This was, by the way, before the Lend-Lease Act had taken effect in any meaningful way.

Probably the best take you can get from Steam Discussions. Yes, lend lease is another story and it helped considerably. But it started after Germany went defensive failing to reach Moscow

[Lovecraft]

Why is the cope over this so high?

EU has singlehandedly brought peace to the continent meanwhile the end of ww2 brought destruction and division as bad, if not worse than during the war, that's still being recovered from.

Why is this game promoting such hateful concepts? If it's for historical accuracy, then you are biased. How about adding the real reason to celebrate? Peace and democracy.

[Rinky]

Originally posted by Lovecraft:

Why is the cope over this so high?

EU has singlehandedly brought peace to the continent meanwhile the end of ww2 brought destruction and division as bad, if not worse than during the war, that's still being recovered from.

Why is this game promoting such hateful concepts? If it's for historical accuracy, then you are biased. How about adding the real reason to celebrate? Peace and democracy.

I refuse to believe that this bs is anything but thickly layered trolling

[Warheadmeiky]

We shouldn't even use the word "war" anymore, considering what happened in the past.

Either way, the discussion about who did more is irrelevant. It is what it is, and it was truly horrific. u are all right

War always stays the same, only the times change.

West and East have made their contribution to liberating the world

We're definitely pulling in the same direction here, in the same direction as War Thunder. I wish everyone the best of luck and lots of fun unlocking the T34-85 :)