South Asia (SA) servers not selectable.

[H.B.Bear]

As the title says, the only region that you cannot select is SA.

Why?

[֎]

Its not a mistake. Its only open on the weekends for when the servers are above 200,000~ players, a majority of them being from Asia, EU and Australia.

They close these servers during the "downtime" to cut hosting costs, the same reason why they merged Asia servers with western servers to begin with. Hosting dedicated servers in SA is magnitudes more expensive than hosting servers in the EU and West due to energy and infrastructure costs.

[H.B.Bear]

Originally posted by ֎:

Its not a mistake. Its only open on the weekends for when the servers are above 200,000~ players, a majority of them being from Asia, EU and Australia.

They close these servers during the "downtime" to cut hosting costs, the same reason why they merged Asia servers with western servers to begin with. Hosting dedicated servers in SA is magnitudes more expensive than hosting servers in the EU and West due to energy and infrastructure costs.

Right...so stuff us Oceania players then huh, we don't count.

[֎]

Originally posted by Bear:

Originally posted by ֎:

Its not a mistake. Its only open on the weekends for when the servers are above 200,000~ players, a majority of them being from Asia, EU and Australia.

They close these servers during the "downtime" to cut hosting costs, the same reason why they merged Asia servers with western servers to begin with. Hosting dedicated servers in SA is magnitudes more expensive than hosting servers in the EU and West due to energy and infrastructure costs.

Right...so stuff us Oceania players then huh, we don't count.

Well.... speaking bluntly, not really.

Sure Gaijin wants their game to be accessible as to many players as possible, but the bottom line is what matters. If it costs more than it brings in, its likely not a wise business choice. Ultimately, the player-base in those regions and more importantly the % that make continual purchases are too small for Gaijin to justify constantly having servers up, as again it would cut into revenue for essentially no gain.

[H.B.Bear]

Originally posted by ֎:

Originally posted by Bear:

Right...so stuff us Oceania players then huh, we don't count.

Well.... speaking bluntly, not really.

Sure Gaijin wants their game to be accessible as to many players as possible, but the bottom line is what matters. If it costs more than it brings in, its likely not a wise business choice. Ultimately, the player-base in those regions and more importantly the % that make continual purchases are too small for Gaijin to justify constantly having servers up, as again it would cut into revenue for essentially no gain.

Gaijin have never given oceanic players a ping lower than 200.

Maybe if they invested here, they might make something back.

[֎]

Originally posted by Bear:

Originally posted by ֎:

Well.... speaking bluntly, not really.

Sure Gaijin wants their game to be accessible as to many players as possible, but the bottom line is what matters. If it costs more than it brings in, its likely not a wise business choice. Ultimately, the player-base in those regions and more importantly the % that make continual purchases are too small for Gaijin to justify constantly having servers up, as again it would cut into revenue for essentially no gain.

Gaijin have never given oceanic players a ping lower than 200.

Maybe if they invested here, they might make something back.

Thats exactly the issue, there is not enough interest in these regions for Gaijin to offer 24/7 server uptime unlike what is found for US/EU/CIS regions where there is a dedicated player base that supports the game.

I understand your frustration, but at the end of the day, Gaijin and their product War Thunder are a business and will only do what makes the business grow. There is just not enough interest to justify the cost of setting up dedicated servers for these regions. It has nothing to do with anything else, there is just not enough interest in War Thunder in those regions to make up for the cost of running servers along with dealing with the laws and regulations of each country. Sure, it CAN be done, but it would only result in a net loss to the company.

[Dadadudu]

Originally posted by ֎:

Originally posted by Bear:

Gaijin have never given oceanic players a ping lower than 200.

Maybe if they invested here, they might make something back.

Thats exactly the issue, there is not enough interest in these regions for Gaijin to offer 24/7 server uptime unlike what is found for US/EU/CIS regions where there is a dedicated player base that supports the game.

I understand your frustration, but at the end of the day, Gaijin and their product War Thunder are a business and will only do what makes the business grow. There is just not enough interest to justify the cost of setting up dedicated servers for these regions. It has nothing to do with anything else, there is just not enough interest in War Thunder in those regions to make up for the cost of running servers along with dealing with the laws and regulations of each country. Sure, it CAN be done, but it would only result in a net loss to the company.

I've encountered a lot of people and YT/Streamers from Australia/NZ and South America, also surprised they don't open a new Server for China or an 24/7 available one for East Asia since half the Playerbase apparently is Chinese and afaik the 'South Asia' Server actually is in East Asia and never was in South Asia but if its not open 24/7 or selectable kinda dumb

And it would make their business grow since more people from this Regions will play the Game when they don't have to play with 200-300 Ping all the time, like i personally wouldn't play the Game even if i wanted if i had to play with an Ping above like ~200 all the time - it already starts to become annoying/noticeable at around 90-100 Ping when i play on CIS from Germany, and the Infrastructure and population is there in those Regions, even in South America like Brazil actually has quite good Internet Infrastructure and average Income is higher than in CIS, even double that of CIS and on par with Russia.

[Lt-AlphaFoxtrot]

I wish they bring back where you can select 2 severs you can queue. Before I was able to queue both NA and SA. SA servers are most of the time empty in Day time NA.

[Canadian Guitar]

Originally posted by Lt-AlphaFoxtrot:

I wish they bring back where you can select 2 severs you can queue. Before I was able to queue both NA and SA. SA servers are most of the time empty in Day time NA.

You can select two.

I have both Na and EU selected

[Lt-AlphaFoxtrot]

Originally posted by Canadian Guitar:

Originally posted by Lt-AlphaFoxtrot:

I wish they bring back where you can select 2 severs you can queue. Before I was able to queue both NA and SA. SA servers are most of the time empty in Day time NA.

You can select two.

I have both Na and EU selected

Yup, it does to the rest except to SA. It's hidden, unless we pick Auto. Same issue causing chinese and Asian players flock to NA and SA remain Dry AF.

[֎]

I just took a picture of current players searching for air arcade battles on SA servers... 29 players total searching[ibb.co] Not even enough players online to create a full lobby at any BR.....

[Dadadudu]

Originally posted by ֎:

I just took a picture of current players searching for air arcade battles on SA servers... 29 players total searching[ibb.co] Not even enough players online to create a full lobby at any BR.....

Probably because 99.99% of people from that Region are playing on EU/CIS/NA

[RXDimA]

I thought it was South America lmao

[Dadadudu]

Originally posted by RXDimA:

I thought it was South America lmao

Yea SA is usually used for South America. Whats funny is that the South Asia Server never even was in South Asia. Originally it was in Singapore - which is in Southeast Asia - and then moved to Japan...which is in East Asia.

[֎]

Originally posted by Aaron:

Originally posted by ֎:

I just took a picture of current players searching for air arcade battles on SA servers... 29 players total searching[ibb.co] Not even enough players online to create a full lobby at any BR.....

Probably because 99.99% of people from that Region are playing on EU/CIS/NA

Exactly, so why would Gaijin go out of their way to spend more than they need to run servers? Its not like the ones we have now are at full capacity and running SA servers 24/7 would do nothing to help the company grow, it would just take away from the bottom line.

[uɐɐılʎʇs]

Originally posted by ֎:

I just took a picture of current players searching for air arcade battles on SA servers... 29 players total searching[ibb.co] Not even enough players online to create a full lobby at any BR.....

Currently wouldnt be a good example compared to before the change making selecting SA much harder.
Right now you can pick SA or NA, not both, which many of us would choose at the same time. And as most of us would now have another server selected since its always available while SA isnt the old amount of players that used to use the server or have it selected would be far less.

Of course the amount now would be low, theyve made it more difficult and it was early morning on a weekday when you posted. Not saying it would ever match the other 3 servers, but was never an issue getting pretty much back to back SA matches before, during and just after our peak times(roughly before my midday to midnight). Since the changes, even during our peak its hard to get decent queue times since i think the majority just dont switch back to SA anymore and treat it as a lost cause.

I play with a ton of people from everywhere through international discords and the amount of times i hear people from EU or US whine about anything over 50ping being unplayable is a laugh. But even our best server was more ping than most are willing to deal with, and made harder to use even when we can select it(as it cant be selected with any other server).

Even picking autoselect which is supposed to pick the best available server ends up putting us on our worst game after game.