The Pantsir needs to go (Not actually EDIT) Until other nations have equal AA

[Sev07Sniper]

It's beyond a joke that Russia has ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like the 2S38 from 2017, The Pantsir from 2015 and of course, the US gets the Piece of ♥♥♥♥ ADATS from 1980. The ADATS is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ abysmal at anti-air. It can't shoot a plane down doing the most half assed defence. The Pantsir can shoot down multiple ordinance at once and still track and kill the aircraft that launched it, it doesn't even need to see them, you can just click lock and it snaps to the target. The ADATS struggles to track its own Radar. Please GOD give other nations better antiair.

I'm not even a CAS hater. I love playing CAS but its mind numbing how one sided the air defence side of things it.

We really need to start getting better long range AA for other nations. Plz Mr.Snail. Its my christmas wish

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Just play 10.7 max and it's gone. Other than that I wouldn't hold my breath, unless someone leaks a classified napkin of some obscure idea for a mobile anti-air that never existed.

[Sev07Sniper]

Originally posted by whatdoesthisbuttondo?:

Just play 10.7 max and it's gone. Other than that I wouldn't hold my breath, unless someone leaks a classified napkin of some obscure idea for a mobile anti-air that never existed.

I shouldn't have to avoid tiers I enjoy because Gajin refuse to be decent developers. Not only is the balance ♥♥♥♥, the maps are awful, the modes are awful and this update has demolished my FPS in SOME vehicles while adsing. I really wish someone would make an actual competitor. The Best competitor I have seen is a Mode on ♥♥♥♥♥♥ Roblox lmao

[Sev07Sniper]

Originally posted by whatdoesthisbuttondo?:

Just play 10.7 max and it's gone. Other than that I wouldn't hold my breath, unless someone leaks a classified napkin of some obscure idea for a mobile anti-air that never existed.

And also 10.7 has the 2s38. Which can IRST lock from 10K anyway.

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Originally posted by Sev07Sniper:

Originally posted by whatdoesthisbuttondo?:

Just play 10.7 max and it's gone. Other than that I wouldn't hold my breath, unless someone leaks a classified napkin of some obscure idea for a mobile anti-air that never existed.

And also 10.7 has the 2s38. Which can IRST lock from 10K anyway.

It may be able to lock you, but it can't hurt you. If you stick to 9.0 max, it is gone as well though.

[Mr Bojangles]

i have both rus and US top tier tanks jets heli's and totally agree with you. US doesnt have ♥♥♥♥ on the pantsir. with US most of the time i cant get enough points to even get in my cas. just try using abrams vs any other mbt at the same tier and try to have fun lol. rus actually has great cas great AA and great tanks imo. the su line is amazing at anti tank duty. and the prem chopper or any of the late tier choppers are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ amazing. US either needs some vehicle buffs or new vehicles added. like a sepv3 or some actual late tier AA like that army truck that carries 4 aim 120's

[Sev07Sniper]

Originally posted by Mr Bojangles:

i have both rus and US top tier tanks jets heli's and totally agree with you. US doesnt have ♥♥♥♥ on the pantsir. with US most of the time i cant get enough points to even get in my cas. just try using abrams vs any other mbt at the same tier and try to have fun lol. rus actually has great cas great AA and great tanks imo. the su line is amazing at anti tank duty. and the prem chopper or any of the late tier choppers are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ amazing. US either needs some vehicle buffs or new vehicles added. like a sepv3 or some actual late tier AA like that army truck that carries 4 aim 120's

Finally someone who gets it. Like I don't want russia to be nerfed particularly I just want other nations to be on par.

[spartakisteqc]

This game needs more powerful AA for everyone and removing a great AA for Russia is doing nothing to help the SPAA department of other countries.

[Sev07Sniper]

Originally posted by spartakisteqc:

This game needs more powerful AA for everyone and removing a great AA for Russia is doing nothing to help the SPAA department of other countries.

It balances out the absolute insane power balance till we have equal power

[elsimate]

Originally posted by Sev07Sniper:

Originally posted by spartakisteqc:

This game needs more powerful AA for everyone and removing a great AA for Russia is doing nothing to help the SPAA department of other countries.

It balances out the absolute insane power balance till we have equal power

US has Pantsir, just most US players are not able to understand it.

[⛧GuerrilaDragon⛧]

Do other countries have anything similar to the Pantsir...? Like at all...?

[Sev07Sniper]

Originally posted by ⛧GuerrilaDragon⛧:

Do other countries have anything similar to the Pantsir...? Like at all...? The question is directed at the OP .

Not really. Germany has the FlaRakRad which is good but not remotely as capable as the Pantsir.

[Eftwyrd]

clearly US/Russa/Germany/Whoever else should lose every unique or powerful capability they have until everyone else has it

god forbid anyone should ever have something your own nation of choice lacks

/sarcasm

keep crying

[spartakisteqc]

Originally posted by Sev07Sniper:

Originally posted by spartakisteqc:

This game needs more powerful AA for everyone and removing a great AA for Russia is doing nothing to help the SPAA department of other countries.

It balances out the absolute insane power balance till we have equal power

No. It just makes the side the soviet are on more vulnerable to lazy ass CAS mains who can't dodge a missile when they have to. Your suggestion is completely stupid and irrelevant since Gaijin recently admitted that CAS is now statistically dominating ground battle right now. Weakening AA because some CAS players suck is completely the wrong thing to do right now and crying about the Pantsir isn't going to help.

But if you're really serious about removing the Pantsir, let's also remove from the game all CAS and helicopters from 10.3 up until everyone get decent SPAA. How about that instead, huh? :D

[Sev07Sniper]

Originally posted by spartakisteqc:

Originally posted by Sev07Sniper:

It balances out the absolute insane power balance till we have equal power

No. It just makes the side the soviet are on more vulnerable to lazy ass CAS mains who can't dodge a missile when they have to. Your suggestion is completely stupid and irrelevant since Gaijin recently admitted that CAS is now statistically dominating ground battle right now. Weakening AA because some CAS players suck is completely the wrong thing to do right now and crying about the Pantsir isn't going to help.

But if you're really serious about removing the Pantsir, let's also remove from the game all CAS and helicopters from 10.3 up until everyone get decent SPAA. How about that instead, huh? :D

Honestly Wouldn't be super against that. But thats never happening because they make too much money off strike premiums. And its not about "not being able to dodge a missile", its about being instantly shot out of the sky ,3 seconds after spawn. And you know who's CAS dominates? Russia. Because no one has AA that can out range their missiles, except You guessed it lol Russia. The ADATS can barely even lock their missiles. I'd much rather other nations get much better SPAA than the Pantsir get removed. But I doubt thats going to happen any time soon because we keep getting mid to low tier ♥♥♥♥ that we don't really need. How is anything I have said Irrelevent, if anything its IT BACKS UP what I have been saying. The pantsir is too good, no other nations have anything remotely close, Russia AA Best in game, Russian Cas, extremely good.

[elsimate]

Originally posted by Sev07Sniper:

Originally posted by spartakisteqc:

No. It just makes the side the soviet are on more vulnerable to lazy ass CAS mains who can't dodge a missile when they have to. Your suggestion is completely stupid and irrelevant since Gaijin recently admitted that CAS is now statistically dominating ground battle right now. Weakening AA because some CAS players suck is completely the wrong thing to do right now and crying about the Pantsir isn't going to help.

But if you're really serious about removing the Pantsir, let's also remove from the game all CAS and helicopters from 10.3 up until everyone get decent SPAA. How about that instead, huh? :D

Honestly Wouldn't be super against that. But thats never happening because they make too much money off strike premiums. And its not about "not being able to dodge a missile", its about being instantly shot out of the sky ,3 seconds after spawn. And you know who's CAS dominates? Russia. Because no one has AA that can out range their missiles, except You guessed it lol Russia. The ADATS can barely even lock their missiles. I'd much rather other nations get much better SPAA than the Pantsir get removed. But I doubt thats going to happen any time soon because we keep getting mid to low tier ♥♥♥♥ that we don't really need. How is anything I have said Irrelevent, if anything its IT BACKS UP what I have been saying. The pantsir is too good, no other nations have anything remotely close, Russia AA Best in game, Russian Cas, extremely good.

Lol USA main. Best AA missiles - AIM120 but no, that's too difficult to understand and use. BTW, best CAS right now is Rafale, so you are barking at the wrong tree.