Pay to win.

[GOGETER]

It's a shame that such a good game is ruined by the fact that you can pay to be better.

[Douknodefox]

You go up against people with the same vehicles and get destroyed because they have more experience with the game.

[Kholyaskaya]

Pay 2 fast and 2 convenience, but not pay to win at all i think, maybe one or two vehicles are OP but otherwise i don't think.

[Husky 54376]

Ahh yes the F-15E, Rafale, EF 2000, all the best planes in the game, that are totally premium.... Your point is not the most valid. I get where you are coming from, but you must understand that you are having a skill issue.

[-NODER-_Novastorm_]

I have mostly regular tech tree stuff , i dont lose fighting premiums, i dont understand you...
And i have 12.0 tops in 8 nations ...
Premiums only wins are about RP and SL wins per games , but winning the match , thats diferent story...

[High]

yes king

[BlackWolf9988]

most premiums arent but there is 100% P2W vics out there and i dont see why people defend it so hard.

like the Su-39 which is an exact copy of the tech tree Su-25T except the premium can carry a radar pod which can let you track moving ground targets and generally improve your situtational awareness in air sim.

or the T-72 turms which is the earliest thermal MBT in the russian tree and the T-80UD which has better armor than the tech tree T-72B at the same BR.

[nirvana_sth]

I think there is a p2w aspect in this game, to be more precise crew training can have a drastic effect, and you can pay for it instead of spending a zillion hours maxing it out.

[Guts]

although some tanks are borderline broken, and not all of them are premiums, what makes this game pay to win is the existence of bushes. By bushes, you pay to be almost invisible in some cases

[Wandering Flare]

War Thunder is kinda like real life, in a sense that you can spend as much money as you want on fancy gear but if you have no idea how to use it you will get destroyed by people that haven't spent any money but have actual experience.

Only "Pay 2" the game is is Pay 2 Not Be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ By The Economy.

[GOGETER]

You can literally pay for your people to be able to endure more and be better at hitting targets, see further and be better at using the radio, but this doesn't make a difference???

[GOGETER]

Originally posted by Douknodefox:

You go up against people with the same vehicles and get destroyed because they have more experience with the game.

no if you pay for your people to be able to endure more and be better at hitting targets, see further and be better at using the radio, you get abel to destroye the other players

[Wandering Flare]

Originally posted by GOGETER:

You can literally pay for your people to be able to endure more and be better at hitting targets, see further and be better at using the radio, but this doesn't make a difference???

Higher survivability will almost never make a difference unless you get shot by a Rank I French tank, only thing that'll make them better at hitting targets is your own aim, seeing further does absolutely nothing because this isn't WoT, same for the radio.

Not to mention that you can get all of those useless skills by just playing normally, so it's not P2W by (normal) definition.

[GOGETER]

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

War Thunder is kinda like real life, in a sense that you can spend as much money as you want on fancy gear but if you have no idea how to use it you will get destroyed by people that haven't spent any money but have actual experience.

Only "Pay 2" the game is is Pay 2 Not Be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ By The Economy.

so you don't spend anything on your crew???

[Hotschi48]

Originally posted by GOGETER:

You can literally pay for your people to be able to endure more and be better at hitting targets, see further and be better at using the radio, but this doesn't make a difference???

If I am looking to the left but the enemy comes from the right, it makes no difference at all, yes....

[Wandering Flare]

Originally posted by GOGETER:

Originally posted by Wandering Flare:

War Thunder is kinda like real life, in a sense that you can spend as much money as you want on fancy gear but if you have no idea how to use it you will get destroyed by people that haven't spent any money but have actual experience.

Only "Pay 2" the game is is Pay 2 Not Be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ By The Economy.

so you don't spend anything on your crew???

Yep, maxed them out without spending a single cent on them.