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DeprEmu Dec 14, 2024 @ 10:21am
Will the BMD-4M ruin 8.3-10.3?
The BMD-4 is renowned as an OP tank (If your not completely braindead). And originally it was expensive to purchase the normal one. Now Gaijin (In their infinite wisdom) is selling an uparmored version as a premium for way cheaper.

I love USSR 8.7 (T-55 go brr) and it's a fun BR. But I fear that now that the USSR teams in the 9.3 range will all be destroyed by low levels using only the BMD-4 and nothing else. Kinda like how the Clickbait has completely ruined top tier US winrates. And to Non-USSR aligned countries it'll become a idiot fest where you have BMD-4M rushers every game to deal with.

Is this fear valid or will it not be as crazy as people think?
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Eftwyrd Dec 14, 2024 @ 10:31am 
every time a shiny new vehicle people want is released things go to **** for a while, there will be a few weeks where every match is full of them

what comes after who really knows, but i have my doubts it will have much more effect than the bmp2m and 2s38 already do
Hotschi48 Dec 14, 2024 @ 10:37am 
It's not Gaijin who sets prizes on the marketplace even though they add their share, it is players who decided that it currently sells for 100 €, Gaijin's netpage pricing is something completely different. Nothing here has anything to do with Gaijin's "infinite wisdom".

And why do you insinuate it will be "low levels" who are going to use this package vehicle, what does this add to your point?

If I were you I'd rather wait and see, sure there will be a huge amount of these things cruising around, but this is the case after every new addition of packages -or premiums, or even tech tree vehicles when people rush to research/purchase them to try them out.
spartakisteqc Dec 14, 2024 @ 11:15am 
There is already the BMP-3 at 9.0 and while annoying and dangerous, it's defeatable. I just destroyed one yesterday with my SK-105A2 with the stock HEAT shell. So, there is no reason to think that the strinkingly similar BMD-4M will break the meta anymore than the BMP-3.

Bear in mind that one of the best part of the current event BMD-4 is its transmission that allows it go at the speed foward and backward. The BMD-4M was especially made to strandardize the mechanical components of the BMP-3 and BMD-4 together to make mass production easier and they choose to use the more powerful BMP-3 engine and the much less sophisticated transmission of the BMP-3 on the BMD-4M. So we're looking at a vehicle that will go foward at 70km per hour and backward at 20km per hour instead of 70/70. It will considerably reduce its real impact in the game because mobility is especially important for an IFV because it has no meaningful armor to protect itself when caught in the open.

As for the premium noob waves that might follow, you will initially see a lot of BMD-4M strutting around. But then it will stabilize just like after a big sale. And I don't really see how this could have more impact than the addition of the T-80U-E1 a few months back by example.

The Clickbait has a huge impact on US winrates because the country is immensely popular among noobs and the vehicle is consistently popular. It's a MBT and it's a part of the considerably overhyped M1 Abrams series of vehicles. The BMD-4M is a relatively obscure russian IFV that most people probably never heard about, it doesn't have the gravitas and popularity of a MBT and it's armored with wet tissue paper. The go to vehicles for russian main premium noobs will always be the T-80U-E1, the T-72A TURMS and the T-80UD. And if they don't go for these, they will go for the widely known to be both undertiered and insufferable 2S38.
Fal Dec 14, 2024 @ 11:37am 
its a BMD the uparmor only makes it worse since its slower than the techtree and event one and the armor means aphe will now work on it
TwinChops Dec 14, 2024 @ 12:12pm 
Its russian so ofcurse it will be OP for a long time.
Just look at the BMP-2M and the Swedish BMP-2MD, they're both the same Tier. One has missiles the other has not.
nuke Dec 15, 2024 @ 9:26am 
Originally posted by TwinChops:
Its russian so ofcurse it will be OP for a long time.
Just look at the BMP-2M and the Swedish BMP-2MD, they're both the same Tier. One has missiles the other has not.
finnish bmp has great thermals though, its a sidegrade
TwinChops Dec 15, 2024 @ 9:51am 
Originally posted by nuke:
Originally posted by TwinChops:
Its russian so ofcurse it will be OP for a long time.
Just look at the BMP-2M and the Swedish BMP-2MD, they're both the same Tier. One has missiles the other has not.
finnish bmp has great thermals though, its a sidegrade
Yes those Thermals sure help alot in case of pening frontal armor, like the missiles do ... oh wait.
nuke Dec 15, 2024 @ 10:23am 
Originally posted by TwinChops:
Originally posted by nuke:
finnish bmp has great thermals though, its a sidegrade
Yes those Thermals sure help alot in case of pening frontal armor, like the missiles do ... oh wait.
thats why i called it a sidegrade....
TwinChops Dec 15, 2024 @ 10:32am 
Originally posted by nuke:
Originally posted by TwinChops:
Yes those Thermals sure help alot in case of pening frontal armor, like the missiles do ... oh wait.
thats why i called it a sidegrade....
Sidegrade implies that it is atleast comparable to the other thing, but it isnt at all, its a straight downgrade yet is on the same br.
SpiralRazor Dec 15, 2024 @ 11:18am 
Originally posted by TwinChops:
Its russian so ofcurse it will be OP for a long time.
Just look at the BMP-2M and the Swedish BMP-2MD, they're both the same Tier. One has missiles the other has not.


I have the event BMD-4...aside from the first two weeks after its release..i never used it..Its just not that good.
MissNurseXochi Dec 16, 2024 @ 11:56am 
Originally posted by TwinChops:
Its russian so ofcurse it will be OP for a long time.
Just look at the BMP-2M and the Swedish BMP-2MD, they're both the same Tier. One has missiles the other has not.

True asf.
caducous Dec 16, 2024 @ 12:08pm 
if the BMD is op then the BMP-3 is op as well, stop crying lmao.
canceros Dec 16, 2024 @ 12:20pm 
bmd4 m3bradley and my favorite tonk bmp3 must be 10.0
BlackWolf9988 Dec 16, 2024 @ 1:29pm 
give it a couple weeks or a month and it will be fine. there is many other better premium vics in higher BRs which people are gonna buy instead of the BMD-4M.
Bucher Dec 16, 2024 @ 3:25pm 
The event BMD-4 is absolutely wild, it has almost double the turret rate and a faster engine than the new BMD-4M. It having a much lower turret, and a worse engine only for the option to put some extra armour only makes its strengths worse.

I don't see the BMD-4M getting a lower BR anytime soon cause it shouldn't but I can 100% see the BMD-4 getting upped.
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Date Posted: Dec 14, 2024 @ 10:21am
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