They need to add a new realistic mode without jets.

[Eros]

3 games with Germany in top tier

2 end in spawnkill because my team was vaporized by jets and the last one we won without even seeing enemies, 3 su34 with 9 kills each.

When you play against Russia by skill and manage to win the first round and take the point, you will instantly die from jet missiles.

If they created a mode, only tanks + jet with nukes, only the Russians and Americans would play the current mode with tanks+ jets, as they are the only ones who are interested in investing time in jets.

But since I am the main German, I want to play tanks. Not jets.

[AttackerCat]

In War Thunder, aircraft, attack helicopters, ground forces and naval vessels collaborate in realistic competitive battles.

https://warthunder.com/en/game/about/

[xCrossFaith]

A ground battle without air support is really not realistic :D

Joking aside tho

Originally posted by Eros:

3 su34 with 9 kills each.

What the ever living ♥♥♥♥ was the other team doing then? A single F-15 has enough AIM-120 to take out those 3 before they reach the battlefield


And the sooner you guys stop pretending you don't know this is a game about planes at first and that everything else comes in second place the better

The problem is not with jets or helis or whatever, the problem is that you are playing those Su-34's and Leopard 2's on the same maps and game modes you would play with Tigers and Spitfires.

[biomike]

Originally posted by xCrossFaith:

A ground battle without air support is really not realistic :D

Joking aside tho

Originally posted by Eros:

3 su34 with 9 kills each.

What the ever living ♥♥♥♥ was the other team doing then? A single F-15 has enough AIM-120 to take out those 3 before they reach the battlefield


And the sooner you guys stop pretending you don't know this is a game about planes at first and that everything else comes in second place the better

The problem is not with jets or helis or whatever, the problem is that you are playing those Su-34's and Leopard 2's on the same maps and game modes you would play with Tigers and Spitfires.

The F-15 gets slapped out of the air by the pantsir cause Russia is the only nation with long range SPAA
Also you got to remember a plane costs more SP then spawning an SPAA

[Venom]

Originally posted by Eros:

3 games with Germany in top tier

2 end in spawnkill because my team was vaporized by jets and the last one we won without even seeing enemies, 3 su34 with 9 kills each.

When you play against Russia by skill and manage to win the first round and take the point, you will instantly die from jet missiles.

If they created a mode, only tanks + jet with nukes, only the Russians and Americans would play the current mode with tanks+ jets, as they are the only ones who are interested in investing time in jets.

But since I am the main German, I want to play tanks. Not jets.
:lp_buddy:

The problem is not in CAS, but in SPAA and aircraft of certain nations. For example, your Germany does not have a high enough quality aircraft to be able to compete with aircraft like the F-15 or SU-34. No, KWS is an aircraft from Vietnam, Aim-120 will not help it if it cannot even catch up with these aircraft. Likewise SPAA, there are maybe three good SPAA in the game, Pancri, FlarakRad, iOtO, of which only one has a really long range and that is the Russian Pancir. Some nations are literally a bad joke like Israel and Chaparal, there is no need to write anything about it, it is crazy that Israel still has this SPAA as a top tier. Japan still has only IR SPAA without radar with short range in the top tier. Italy has cannon SPAA in the top tier that can do nothing against CAS, etc. In other words, the problem is in the balance of the machines that Gaijin adds, not in CAS itself. As is often the case with the inability of players who don't want to take a plane, or even just a SPAA even though they have it researched, because they don't want to. But then they chose the wrong game. WT is not a realistic tank simulator and never was. It was distinguished by the uniqueness of mixed games. Choosing such a game and then complaining that you only want to fight with tanks is like choosing FIFA and complaining that you have to deliver the ball to a super goal, after all, you just want to stand still and kick the ball, so let EA create such a mode, nonsense. Besides, in most cases, the main complainers are CAS campers who are angry that they are being destroyed from their great camping position, which is what CAS is directly intended for. And let's be realistic, in 70-80 percent of the game I die from a tank, not a plane, so I don't know why many people try to pretend as if it were the other way around when it's not true.

[Eros]

Originally posted by AttackerCat:

In War Thunder, aircraft, attack helicopters, ground forces and naval vessels collaborate in realistic competitive battles.

https://warthunder.com/en/game/about/

This is about Top tier is unpablable if dont like to play jets, cuz Jets makes the game end at 10 minutes of matchs killing more thant half of the team with missiles shoted 10km away of the place

[xCrossFaith]

Originally posted by biomike:

Originally posted by xCrossFaith:

A ground battle without air support is really not realistic :D

Joking aside tho



What the ever living ♥♥♥♥ was the other team doing then? A single F-15 has enough AIM-120 to take out those 3 before they reach the battlefield


And the sooner you guys stop pretending you don't know this is a game about planes at first and that everything else comes in second place the better

The problem is not with jets or helis or whatever, the problem is that you are playing those Su-34's and Leopard 2's on the same maps and game modes you would play with Tigers and Spitfires.

The F-15 gets slapped out of the air by the pantsir cause Russia is the only nation with long range SPAA
Also you got to remember a plane costs more SP then spawning an SPAA

If you get slapped by a Pantsir in the F-15 you are doing something wrong.

Most likely what most people playin CAS/CAP do, spawn and go face first into the battlefield

[biomike]

Originally posted by xCrossFaith:

Originally posted by biomike:

The F-15 gets slapped out of the air by the pantsir cause Russia is the only nation with long range SPAA
Also you got to remember a plane costs more SP then spawning an SPAA

If you get slapped by a Pantsir in the F-15 you are doing something wrong.

Most likely what most people playin CAS/CAP do, spawn and go face first into the battlefield

When they get locked and fired at as soon as the spawn it sorta make it hard to do anything
And i will remind you that CAP is not the solution when it costs more then spawning an SPAA, SPAA need to be on the level to take out planes for ALL nations not just one or two of them