wher ww1

[John Warhammer]

i want ww1 tanks in the game, yes yes i know they are slow and weak but gaijin can make them more strong to balance the game

[Canadian Guitar]

WW1 tanks were meant to push trenches and fight against infantry and emplacements, not tank on tank combat.

You can always buy the Independent and see how truly awful something like that would be

[mogami_99]

Originally posted by John Warhammer:

i want ww1 tanks in the game, yes yes i know they are slow and weak but gaijin can make them more strong to balance the game

nah we don't want enhancing things for balance. Seems like a bad way to go
actually tanks are not meant for tank versus tank action that is what tank destroyers do
If your tanks are fighting enemy tanks something has already went bad
War Thunder is game where we accept tank on tank combat as the norm
In practice you want your AT ground, artillery, and Tank destroyers to engage before you unleash your tanks.

[John Warhammer]

this doesnt change my wants

[mogami_99]

Originally posted by John Warhammer:

this doesnt change my wants

OK but you provide no means to implement it other then changing things to enhance what could not survive into something that could. No WW1 tank was designed or built to fight other tanks. No WW1 tank even has a turret. Now there are interwar tanks that never saw combat. The much maligned Italian tanks were actually the most modern for a few weeks that every one else designed theirs to kill.

[Your_White_Knight]

Originally posted by John Warhammer:

wher ww1

i want ww1 tanks in the game, yes yes i know they are slow and weak but gaijin can make them more strong to balance the game

Agree

That would be fun

[mogami_99]

Originally posted by Your_White_Knight:

Originally posted by John Warhammer:

wher ww1

i want ww1 tanks in the game, yes yes i know they are slow and weak but gaijin can make them more strong to balance the game

Agree

That would be fun

Just tell us how. Would be a good place to begin. What tanks and how they should be changed to work. War Thunder has plenty of things that never existed so I won't use that as an argument. I just want to know what tanks and what modifications. We are talking only about BR 1.0-1.3 so nothing drastic.

[John Warhammer]

still i think that ww1 gets left out a lot and ww2 gets most of the fame i think it would be nice to have ww1 in the game and if they did have ww1 tanks and make them realistic they would be weak cuz ww1 tanks where poor armored

[LordBUM]

the vast majority of the few ww1 tanks ever seen are not capable of anti tank warfare most ww1 tanks were only armed with simple machine guns the tanks the did have enough firepower to pen armor were very few the closest you will ever get to ww1 era tanks are the interwar tanks at tier 1 since they were made with the same design style and function as ww1 tanks.

tanks in ww1 were really just glorified mobile bunkers only meant to to traverse trenches and mow down the helpless soldiers that tried to flee. it wasn't until the war was about to end that tanks designed for anti tank warfare started to show up and only like 3 nations had such tanks France England and Germany. if gaijin was to add ww1 tanks most tech trees would not have any ww1 tanks because most countries only started building them after the war.

[Your_White_Knight]

Originally posted by mogami_99:

Originally posted by Your_White_Knight:

Agree

That would be fun

Just tell us how. Would be a good place to begin. What tanks and how they should be changed to work. War Thunder has plenty of things that never existed so I won't use that as an argument. I just want to know what tanks and what modifications. We are talking only about BR 1.0-1.3 so nothing drastic.

Start with the start I guess.... although each country would have to start with A: "Little Willie" ( Please no ban Mods, lol ) and go A, AA, AAA, B until we get back to 1.0 from there

https://youtu.be/fthwKUbRyuk

Naturally again some only made it as a prototype or on paper but like you said that hasn't stopped the Snail before.

There probably would be a big user base since everyone is in a race to get to Tier 10+

Maybe drop a new one every April 1st

Or... or...

Bring back Mad Thunder

WT choice

[mogami_99]

Originally posted by John Warhammer:

still i think that ww1 gets left out a lot and ww2 gets most of the fame i think it would be nice to have ww1 in the game and if they did have ww1 tanks and make them realistic they would be weak cuz ww1 tanks where poor armored

WW1 tanks were designed to crush barbed wire and machine gun enemy infantry in trenches. They were not designed to fight enemy tanks because no enemy tanks existed (as far as the designers knew) Some had cannon but again not designed for enemy vehicles but for static enemy infantry emplacements. There are WW! ships of course because they are not much different then later designs other then power plants and AA capability. WW! aircraft were so obsolete by WW2 that even biplanes were on their way out. But WW1 ground vehicles (tanks such as they were) were so far behind the curve that even more modern vehicles from the 1920-1930's were already obsolete. Sorry but I can't see anyone putting in the time to make a BR 1.0 vehicle that no one would play enough to justify including it. There are already plenty of bad tanks in BR 1.0\
Now a game that began in say 1915 where you got to design your own sounds like a lot of fun. But it is not War Thunder (I would buy the "design tank game")
Our comments overlapped

[Your_White_Knight]

Originally posted by mogami_99:

Originally posted by John Warhammer:

still i think that ww1 gets left out a lot and ww2 gets most of the fame i think it would be nice to have ww1 in the game and if they did have ww1 tanks and make them realistic they would be weak cuz ww1 tanks where poor armored

WW1 tanks were designed to crush barbed wire and machine gun enemy infantry in trenches. They were not designed to fight enemy tanks because no enemy tanks existed (as far as the designers knew) Some had cannon but again not designed for enemy vehicles but for static enemy infantry emplacements. There are WW! ships of course because they are not much different then later designs other then power plants and AA capability. WW! aircraft were so obsolete by WW2 that even biplanes were on their way out. But WW1 ground vehicles (tanks such as they were) were so far behind the curve that even more modern vehicles from the 1920-1930's were already obsolete. Sorry but I can't see anyone putting in the time to make a BR 1.0 vehicle that no one would play enough to justify including it. There are already plenty of bad tanks in BR 1.0\
Now a game that began in say 1915 where you got to design your own sounds like a lot of fun. But it is not War Thunder (I would buy the "design tank game")
Our comments overlapped

Agree... well said

[biomike]

Originally posted by mogami_99:

Originally posted by John Warhammer:

this doesnt change my wants

OK but you provide no means to implement it other then changing things to enhance what could not survive into something that could. No WW1 tank was designed or built to fight other tanks. No WW1 tank even has a turret. Now there are interwar tanks that never saw combat. The much maligned Italian tanks were actually the most modern for a few weeks that every one else designed theirs to kill.

The Renault FT had a turret

[mogami_99]

Originally posted by biomike:

Originally posted by mogami_99:

OK but you provide no means to implement it other then changing things to enhance what could not survive into something that could. No WW1 tank was designed or built to fight other tanks. No WW1 tank even has a turret. Now there are interwar tanks that never saw combat. The much maligned Italian tanks were actually the most modern for a few weeks that every one else designed theirs to kill.

The Renault FT had a turret

There it is. WW1 Tank that might be the one WT could use.

[nirvana_sth]

Originally posted by John Warhammer:

i want ww1 tanks in the game, yes yes i know they are slow and weak but gaijin can make them more strong to balance the game

Just play bf1.

[CptKerion]

Originally posted by Canadian Guitar:

WW1 tanks were meant to push trenches and fight against infantry and emplacements, not tank on tank combat.

You can always buy the Independent and see how truly awful something like that would be

I kinda love the Independent though... I love my land-boat. Sure, it's not very good if you try to use it like, well, a tank, but if you use it like a rolling pillbox and position it like you were building a bunker, it works pretty well. It's... not a normal style of gameplay. I only recommend it to people who are deeply in love with the Churchills and the low BR french heavy tanks. Yeah, it gets disabled a lot, but it's got so many dudes in it that it tends to get back up as long as you stayed close to your team.