How planes do spot my tank in Ground RB ?

[Youshisu]

I'm confused, my tank destroyer has no armor it sucks...

How do you hide ?

[Ihatetrainyards]

Originally posted by Shyue Chou:

Originally posted by whatdoesthisbuttondo?:

Basically if you're high enough none of the foliage renders when looking down, but vehicles still do.

That is pretty much it. Wreckage, foliage, etc do not render, thus, airpower is overly strong and ground vehicles are easily found. Not so in real life of course. :mailedfist:

Having 3rd person also doesn't help since you get unrealistic F-35 360 degree vision that lets you see through the floor in your 1940's planes.
In real life spotting ground targets from your plane was the hard part so you usually needed someone on the ground to mark it for you in 1 way or another.

[Youshisu]

Originally posted by xCrossFaith:

ULQ, it removes A LOT of clutter and shadows so you can see a tiny pixel moving and know there's a tank there (it's also why sometimes you feel you get shot through a ton of trees with no visibility)

whats ulq? ultra quality?

[Ihatetrainyards]

Originally posted by I make tea 20 mins:

Originally posted by xCrossFaith:

ULQ, it removes A LOT of clutter and shadows so you can see a tiny pixel moving and know there's a tank there (it's also why sometimes you feel you get shot through a ton of trees with no visibility)

whats ulq? ultra quality?

Ultra LOW quality.

[Commander359]

Originally posted by Ihatetrainyards:

Originally posted by I make tea 20 mins:

whats ulq? ultra quality?

Ultra LOW quality.

Really? That's how those cloud-hugging vultures spot tanks? Wow, because it wasn't bad enough how bad spaa is, how op fighter/bomber ordinance load-outs are, how garbage bomber defensive guns are, how unnecessarily agile most fighter bombers are, how much they nerfed bomber survivability, and fighters having the lowest average maintenance cost and highest silver earnings in air RB, now they have to give them a blatant cheat that lets them see through foliage in ground RB?

Sheesh, why not just slap a pair of training wheels on each wing and put a decal on it that says "Babies first war sim" because the amount of hand-holding the devs give these guys makes me want to vomit.

[BlueWaffers]

Buy some bushes

[xeon_mlt]

Originally posted by Commander359:

Originally posted by Ihatetrainyards:

Ultra LOW quality.

Really? That's how those cloud-hugging vultures spot tanks? Wow, because it wasn't bad enough how bad spaa is, how op fighter/bomber ordinance load-outs are, how garbage bomber defensive guns are, how unnecessarily agile most fighter bombers are, how much they nerfed bomber survivability, and fighters having the lowest average maintenance cost and highest silver earnings in air RB, now they have to give them a blatant cheat that lets them see through foliage in ground RB?

Sheesh, why not just slap a pair of training wheels on each wing and put a decal on it that says "Babies first war sim" because the amount of hand-holding the devs give these guys makes me want to vomit.

The game is better at Ultra Low Quality because you have less stuff rendering, and spotting tanks is easier (this applies for both tanks and planes).

War Thunder was the game designed from the ground up to be a combined arms game (according to the developer), however, in Ground RB it definitely pays more to be in a plane than a ground vehicle, because in some way or another the balance always shifts towards the pilot.

When a plane strafes you, you get marked on the map. If you hit a plane, it doesn't get marked at all.

Objectives are always pretty much out in the open, so you are always a sitting duck for pilots.

The capping zones used to be much bigger, now they are smaller, or as I call them, bomb friendly.

At BR 7.0+ it seems that most planes have 500lb/1000lb/2000lb bomb loads.

[CaptainSpacetime]

I've got graphics set to max, rarely get bombed ever and I play a lot of 5.7 Germany.

Just gotta listen for enemy planes and play smart.

Switching to ULQ won't do anything if you're playing totally mindless.

[Shyue Chou]

Originally posted by Ihatetrainyards:

Originally posted by Shyue Chou:

That is pretty much it. Wreckage, foliage, etc do not render, thus, airpower is overly strong and ground vehicles are easily found. Not so in real life of course.

Having 3rd person also doesn't help since you get unrealistic F-35 360 degree vision that lets you see through the floor in your 1940's planes.
In real life spotting ground targets from your plane was the hard part so you usually needed someone on the ground to mark it for you in 1 way or another.

Actually, I don't get bombed or strafed often in my open-topped tank destroyers but that is another story. It is very possible to hide in World War II and early postwar battles from aircraft. I don't teach people how to hide anymore in these forums. It is quite pointless as many players have eyes have they cannot see, they have ears but they cannot hear.

In any case, in the Vietnam War, there was the Pink Team, where an AH-6 would do the spotting while the Hueycobra would deliver the firepower. In many cases, a Cessna Birddog and others were also used for spotting before the fastmovers were called in.

In any case, terrain features should, especially foliage should be rendered more to allow vehicles to blend in with the terrain, especially from the air. I take great care in hiding.

But I do agree that vehicles should be harder to spot and foliage should be rendered.

[mogami_99]

if you only knew how bad you all are making me feel. When I fly in ground RB I almost never see any targets unless they are marked by team mates.

[Ihatetrainyards]

Originally posted by mogami_99:

if you only knew how bad you all are making me feel. When I fly in ground RB I almost never see any targets unless they are marked by team mates.

You either need to clean your screen or get prescription glasses.

[Youshisu]

Originally posted by mogami_99:

if you only knew how bad you all are making me feel. When I fly in ground RB I almost never see any targets unless they are marked by team mates.

well, i always die in first 30s after using plane, due to enemy fighter xD

[Commander359]

Originally posted by mogami_99:

if you only knew how bad you all are making me feel. When I fly in ground RB I almost never see any targets unless they are marked by team mates.

Are you flying a fighter, or a bomber? If your flying a bomber, that makes sense because the altitude you are flying at will usually mean that, even without the foliage, most tanks are just tiny dots on a massive green board. If your flying a fighter, medium to high altitude-reducing renders would make spotting tanks far easier.

[mogami_99]

A bomber. I fly fighters when enemy team has planes up and don't look for ground targets I go after the planes. Any aircraft I have shot down in a fighter have been ground RB since I only fly bombers or strike aircraft in Air RB