the new br changes are good and bad and ill explain

[Vault_tec10]

so for me the new br changes have been good for the planes however for tanks now so much the t-72 being moved up from 9.7 to 10.0 has caused it not be as good as it used to be and the leopard 2pl seems to been moved up from 11.0 to 11.3 which has really made it useless also now the leopard a1a1 also gets upteired instead of being at 9.0 after this update but for the most part this update has done alout of good i would love to hear everyones opiones on this!

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Originally posted by Mirage:

At least they can drop the queue time excuse they've been holding onto for years that prevents decompression, but they'll have to come up with a different excuse instead.

This one I'd absolutely agree, it is time to let go of the queue time mantra already.

Even at very odd times I rarely wait for more than 20 seconds for a top tier match, I'd rather have some more balanced matchmaking and wait 60 seconds in those circumstances, and I'd wager most players would.

Would make absolutely zero difference most of the time anyway.

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Originally posted by Mirage:

Which is what most people have been saying forever, most people really wouldn't mind longer queue times, within reason, if it meant better quality of games.
No one prefers fast matchmaking over a fun game, no point quickly getting into a game that sucks and you're uptiered.

Yea, what I mean is, a couple of years back, I could see the argument with queue times, but player count has exploded since then.

I wouldn't even mind strict matchmaking in peak times only, and falling back to the "old" matchmaker in odd hours.

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Let's be honest here, nations don't mean anything anymore for matchmaking.

I'd love to see NATO vs PACT on a regular basis, which would actually be much more balanced game play than the hodgepodge we get all the time... and that is coming from someone playing RU frequently, knowing they get completely trashed when they don't have US or GER on their side.

Definitely not an argument against proper matchmaking, I'd say the opposite is true.

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Originally posted by Mirage:

Massive discrepancies in playercount per nation is severely going to limit the matchmaking and gives you constant battles against Russia vs everyone else, and with Russia being as strong as it is, it just means everyone else gets ♥♥♥♥ on constantly until they manage to find a game where this isn't the case.

Russia is only strong when they get US or GER in their team, apart from rare instances where UK or SWE isn't just one player. When on their own, they get mostly trashed.

Since they have a lot of players, makes perfect sense to keep NATO vs PACT separation, that might even improve queue times.

Sure it would piss off a couple RU players, but at the end of the day, win rewards are not that substantial anymore, and the matches will be more interesting.

[Cha Cha Real Rough]

Originally posted by Mirage:

Originally posted by whatdoesthisbuttondo?:

Russia is only strong when they get US or GER in their team, apart from rare instances where UK or SWE isn't just one player. When on their own, they get mostly trashed.

Since they have a lot of players, makes perfect sense to keep NATO vs PACT separation, that might even improve queue times.

Sure it would piss off a couple RU players, but at the end of the day, win rewards are not that substantial anymore, and the matches will be more interesting.

Not if we're talking about top tier, Germany is significantly weaker than Russia and amongst the weakest nations at top tier aside from Italy's faux top tier lineup, being able to field entire teams of nothing but Russia vs a rag tag crew of random vehicles is a big part of why they're dominating top tier.

I find top tier germany pretty competitive, In a leopard 2A4 im hardly ever dying in the first hit, and the mobility is pretty good.

[Cha Cha Real Rough]

Originally posted by Mirage:

Originally posted by Cha Cha Real Rough:

I find top tier germany pretty competitive, In a leopard 2A4 im hardly ever dying in the first hit, and the mobility is pretty good.

2A4 is like what, BR 10 or now 10.3? So that means it doesn't fight top tier at all unless it's in a lineup of higher BRs.

Top tier is a pretty general term, so next time just say like 11.0-11.3. at that tier, I have no idea, but I assume it probably doesnt change much other than tanks having better armor and more apfsds pen.

Edit: also, at 10.0 it gets uptiered to 11.0, and that isnt top tier?

[Cha Cha Real Rough]

Originally posted by Mirage:

Originally posted by Cha Cha Real Rough:

Top tier is a pretty general term, so next time just say like 11.0-11.3. at that tier, I have no idea, but I assume it probably doesnt change much other than tanks having better armor and more apfsds pen.

I mean top tier is just the top of the tree in my opinion, and I mean yeah to a degree that is true, but add in all the additional vehicles, lineups, backups, CAS etc.

I mean CAS is CAS, i bet the drone experience doesnt improve and strike planes play the same. Lineups at 11.3 are basically just upgrades of existing tanks (except china i belive). When it comes to weakpoints on the tanks, its basically the exact same places, but with additional armor on places you couldn't shoot through previously.

I could be wrong, but I dont really see how things change from 10.0 to 11.3 really.

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Originally posted by Mirage:

Originally posted by whatdoesthisbuttondo?:

Russia is only strong when they get US or GER in their team, apart from rare instances where UK or SWE isn't just one player. When on their own, they get mostly trashed.

Since they have a lot of players, makes perfect sense to keep NATO vs PACT separation, that might even improve queue times.

Sure it would piss off a couple RU players, but at the end of the day, win rewards are not that substantial anymore, and the matches will be more interesting.

Not if we're talking about top tier, Germany is significantly weaker than Russia and amongst the weakest nations at top tier aside from Italy's faux top tier lineup, being able to field entire teams of nothing but Russia vs a rag tag crew of random vehicles is a big part of why they're dominating top tier.

Depends on the timezone, or rather the idiot saturation on your team, the lineup itself is perfectly fine. But yea, you lose the team lottery, you get Leos driving around with the front rack loaded...

That said, RU has a lower skill floor, I'd agree on that, then again a lower skill ceiling too.

If you have two teams full of morons, chances are you'll do better with RU, otherwise you better hope to get US and GER.

[Neckstabba]

Originally posted by Emperors Champion Dragos:

my 10.0 lineup for america is dead, reduced to dust

Tzeentch's curse turned many to dust...

[whatdoesthisbuttondo?]

Originally posted by Mirage:

Germany only has 2 top tier MBTs at 11.7 with the 2A5 just being a worse version of the 2A6 of course, for your third vehicle it's BR 10.3 which is more than a full uptier away, with only a squadron vehicle at 11.3 being an alternative.

Huh? Not sure why you'd realistically need more than 3 MBTs in a decent top tier lineup... don't really see that argument holding any water.

If someone has gone through 3 MBTs before the match is over, chances are they're not doing much except exploding anyway, going straight back to my earlier statement.

Besides, if you want to argue that way, RU has exactly one top tier MBT, and then a worse version of it. Which you shouldn't use anyway, but rather go with the thing on the left instead.