M247 Is a jokee

[therayhezbroham]

M247 should be max 7.3 BR without the proxy rounds, and no more than 8.0 with proxy rounds. The Gepard is better in every stat and that tank sits at a BR of 8.3. Not to mention the fact that the gepard can actually kill tanks unlike the M247 with its weak ass cannons. Make it make sense.

[Eftwyrd]

No radar guided self propelled anti air is going to be put that low

That the thing is a joke is only fitting, it was a joke in real life too

[therayhezbroham]

Publicado originalmente por Eftwyrd:

No radar guided self propelled anti air is going to be put that low

That the thing is a joke is only fitting, it was a joke in real life too

The damn radar sucks with it too, thing cant stay steady for ♥♥♥♥. Nothing is good about the M247. I have better times shooting down jets with a M113 that has a damn minigun strapped to it. Not to mention that the m163 is radar guided and it sits at 7.3. But sure, it doesnt have the same range. But at least you can hit a moving target with it.

[Yeetilini]

Smells like skill issue. I have more kills in my M247 than my 2S6, FlakRad, and ADATS combined. It has a permanent spot in my lineup from 9.0 to 12.0

[Corporal_Goose]

I think the radar does have issues tracking well in game (which for people with less experience can be helpful if it would work) but the armament for defense against other tanks as well as lacking a proxy round hinders its performance to players who don't have much expeirence with it.

7.3 is still a ridiculous battle rating, i would say a minimum of 8.7 could be argued but it is till a very capable AA so idk.

[AntwonJenkins]

LMAO wow... the 247 is disgusting with proxy rounds and the fuse delay round can kill a T-72 from the side and over pressure a T-64 from the front. ANY light tank, SPAA, and SPG dont stand a chance against it. This is pure skill issue im sorry

[Aleuvian]

Publicado originalmente por Corporal_Goose:

I think the radar does have issues tracking well in game (which for people with less experience can be helpful if it would work) but the armament for defense against other tanks as well as lacking a proxy round hinders its performance to players who don't have much expeirence with it.

7.3 is still a ridiculous battle rating, i would say a minimum of 8.7 could be argued but it is till a very capable AA so idk.

All radar guidance for ground munitions has significant issues in-game, with lead indicators dropping out or being outright incorrect fairly often. I highly recommend people just lead without the radar tracking at this point, because Gaijin has no intention on making changes to ground radar.

[Blitzkrieg Wulf]

I'll be honest, I've never personally ran into the radar issues described. No more radar issues than I've experienced with gepard/similar platforms, anyways.

Stock? OK, it's not an opwagon. Still, plenty of people heli-rush that you should be able to pick up kills pretty readily even without proxy HE.
Upgraded HE? Pretty much any light vehicle is done for. Aim carefully.
Proxy HE? I've found it to be lethal inside of 3km, and good out to ~4km as long as it's a semi-stationary helicopter. Most won't have any idea they are being radar locked, and they won't see the proxy HE incoming.

The M247 is probably the enemy SPAA that I want to see the least. The early MANPADS and most gun-based systems are pretty easy to see and avoid. You can't "see" the M247 shoot at you, good luck evading something you can't see.

[TheAndyboy888]

This thing is the best of SPAAs at this BR range for me. The HE-VT ammo is insanely effective

[French Cat]

Ngl the Srgt. York is kinda ass from the CAS perspective. It's muzzle flashes are so damn bright, it's like 2 mini nukes going off. The shell velocity is really slow too so you can just change your heading by like 1 degree and you'll be fine. Ngl it's a free kill when you got long range weapons like GBUs or AGMS even MCLOS.

[French Cat]

Publicado originalmente por Blitzkrieg Wulf:

You can't "see" the M247 shoot at you, good luck evading something you can't see.

Dude just look for the 2 suns flashing from the guns, they're so much easier to spot than tracers and missiles imo.

[Nack321]

Publicado originalmente por Blitzkrieg Wulf:

I'll be honest, I've never personally ran into the radar issues described. No more radar issues than I've experienced with gepard/similar platforms, anyways.

Stock? OK, it's not an opwagon. Still, plenty of people heli-rush that you should be able to pick up kills pretty readily even without proxy HE.
Upgraded HE? Pretty much any light vehicle is done for. Aim carefully.
Proxy HE? I've found it to be lethal inside of 3km, and good out to ~4km as long as it's a semi-stationary helicopter. Most won't have any idea they are being radar locked, and they won't see the proxy HE incoming.

The M247 is probably the enemy SPAA that I want to see the least. The early MANPADS and most gun-based systems are pretty easy to see and avoid. You can't "see" the M247 shoot at you, good luck evading something you can't see.

the gepard radar is a joke half the time its jumps to another plane if you want t lock and sometimes you cant lock a big flying brick 100-200m from you!

[Blitzkrieg Wulf]

Publicado originalmente por French Cat:

Publicado originalmente por Blitzkrieg Wulf:

You can't "see" the M247 shoot at you, good luck evading something you can't see.

Dude just look for the 2 suns flashing from the guns, they're so much easier to spot than tracers and missiles imo.

I think we have all seen people make questionable choices with vehicles when they don't fully understand either the limitations of the vehicle, or don't understand what it really excels at.

Holding LMB at 5+km and praying for a miracle hit is not in my book of 'best practices' with the 247. Most/all 247's I have seen played well have the radar off until ready to fire at a plane, and whether firing at a plane or light tank, stick with very short bursts.

[magicISO Sweden]

Publicado originalmente por Blitzkrieg Wulf:

Publicado originalmente por French Cat:

Dude just look for the 2 suns flashing from the guns, they're so much easier to spot than tracers and missiles imo.

I think we have all seen people make questionable choices with vehicles when they don't fully understand either the limitations of the vehicle, or don't understand what it really excels at.

Holding LMB at 5+km and praying for a miracle hit is not in my book of 'best practices' with the 247. Most/all 247's I have seen played well have the radar off until ready to fire at a plane, and whether firing at a plane or light tank, stick with very short bursts.

i always start open fire at between 2-3km away

[Blitzkrieg Wulf]

Publicado originalmente por Nack321:

the gepard radar is a joke half the time its jumps to another plane if you want t lock and sometimes you cant lock a big flying brick 100-200m from you!

I think the question here is why we are attempting to get a radar lock on a "big flying brick" only 100/200 meters away?

Most of these SPAAG's are pushing velocities close/exceeding 1000m/s. Forget the radar, point and click!

[magicISO Sweden]

yeah why even use radar at 100-200 meters away lol just open fire is not hard to hit that close