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lucy 2015 年 7 月 14 日 上午 11:46
Ever saw these paratroopers jumping out of burning B-17s?
Well, why can't we shoot them for a slight boost in XP and SL, and a repair fee boost for the shoot-ee.
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Tankfriend 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 12:00 
引用自 Luke
Well, why can't we shoot them
Possibly because doing so in real-life would be a war crime according to the Geneva Conventions, Protocol I, Article 42:
1. No person parachuting from an aircraft in distress shall be made the object of attack during his descent.

2. Upon reaching the ground in territory controlled by an adverse Party, a person who has parachuted from an aircraft in distress shall be given an opportunity to surrender before being made the object of attack, unless it is apparent that he is engaging in a hostile act.

3. Airborne troops are not protected by this Article.
https://www.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl.nsf/Article.xsp?action=openDocument&documentId=0E0BF3B27E4F4E8EC12563CD0051DB78
最后由 Tankfriend 编辑于; 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 12:05
Katokevin 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 12:20 
And do we just assume that everybody followed/will follow the rules of the Geneva Convention? Either way, I don't think you should get points for that. It would be just wrong.
MaximeDelaroux 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 12:22 
I think you should actually get an SL decrease for doing that.
Razgriz 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 12:32 
As far as I've ever been told RAF and Luftwaffe pilots had a great sense of honor and respect to one another and many aces and pilots went on record saying they would never shoot at a pilot who bailed from an aircraft, saying they would disobey any order that told them to do so as it would be the equivelent to murder rather than defense.
That being said I know of 0 instances of Russian, American, or Japanese pilots saying the same.
Regardless it would be wrong and Gaijin would never do it for reasons relating to the rating of the game and effecting their potential player base.
MMOGamer71 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 12:55 
引用自 Luke
Well, why can't we shoot them for a slight boost in XP and SL, and a repair fee boost for the shoot-ee.

People jumping out of B-17's ARE NOT paratroopers, they are called crewmembers.
MMOGamer71 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 12:57 
引用自 Razgriz
As far as I've ever been told RAF and Luftwaffe pilots had a great sense of honor and respect to one another and many aces and pilots went on record saying they would never shoot at a pilot who bailed from an aircraft, saying they would disobey any order that told them to do so as it would be the equivelent to murder rather than defense.
That being said I know of 0 instances of Russian, American, or Japanese pilots saying the same.
Regardless it would be wrong and Gaijin would never do it for reasons relating to the rating of the game and effecting their potential player base.

Correct, Google Douglas Bader and read about his time as a POW.
Fish 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 1:06 
From what I know, reading A Higher Call, in the story of Franz Stigler the commader or sorts(havent read it in a bit, so I dont remember) of JG 27 Rodel said he'd shoot his own men out of the sky himself if he saw or heard of his men shooting down ejected aircraft crew members. It also mentioned the Royal Air Force, while not specifically stating this, as well as the rest of the Luftwaffe, shared great respect for their enemies and *usually* didn't shoot down ejected aircrew either. I cant say anything about Russia or Japan, but as for America. Towards the end of the book someone was bailed out of their aircraft on the ground and American aircraft repeatedly strafed him while he was on the ground.
Razgriz 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 1:14 
引用自 MMOGamer71
引用自 Razgriz
As far as I've ever been told RAF and Luftwaffe pilots had a great sense of honor and respect to one another and many aces and pilots went on record saying they would never shoot at a pilot who bailed from an aircraft, saying they would disobey any order that told them to do so as it would be the equivelent to murder rather than defense.
That being said I know of 0 instances of Russian, American, or Japanese pilots saying the same.
Regardless it would be wrong and Gaijin would never do it for reasons relating to the rating of the game and effecting their potential player base.

Correct, Google Douglas Bader and read about his time as a POW.
Interesting, I had heard his name before while looking into Adolf Gallands history, but never did much research into who he was. Got to give both sides props. Bader for continuing to fly after losing both legs and the Germans for allowing RAF bombers to drop a new prosthetic after he lost one while bailing out. And then another to Bader for annoying the Germans to the point they threatened to take away his legs.
DarthHammer 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 1:33 
引用自 Fish♥
From what I know, reading A Higher Call, in the story of Franz Stigler the commader or sorts(havent read it in a bit, so I dont remember) of JG 27 Rodel said he'd shoot his own men out of the sky himself if he saw or heard of his men shooting down ejected aircraft crew members. It also mentioned the Royal Air Force, while not specifically stating this, as well as the rest of the Luftwaffe, shared great respect for their enemies and *usually* didn't shoot down ejected aircrew either. I cant say anything about Russia or Japan, but as for America. Towards the end of the book someone was bailed out of their aircraft on the ground and American aircraft repeatedly strafed him while he was on the ground.

This is the quote by Gustav Rodel:

"You are fighter pilots first, last, always. If I ever hear of any of you shooting at someone in a parachute, I'll shoot you myself."

I rather like it.

I've also read that book, but I don't recall that part about Americans strafing a pilot after he bailed out. Not saying it isn't true, I just don't remember it. Though from what I know, American pilots on the European front typically didn't fire on bailed out pilots.
Dennis Rodman 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 1:39 
引用自 MaximeDelaroux
I think you should actually get an SL decrease for doing that.

Maybe, but what about the times you accidentaly run into an enemy/ shoot a parachuter while shooting an enemy aircraft?
Fish 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 6:03 
引用自 ИисусХлеб
There weren't as many incidents of American plots shooting out parachuting airmen as the Luftwaffe. The only times that I heard they did were against Me 262 and Me 163 pilots.
Pretty sure the account in the book A Higher Call I was talking about was P-51s or P-47s strafing a pilot of JV-44(which exclusively flew Me 262s in the fighter role) on the ground, although I think there was another time it said that a bailed Bf 109 pilot was strafed on the ground as well.
Kronuxen 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 6:20 
During the war, specially in the early stages pilots acted as "Knights of the sky", they never shot down paratrooping pilots. Even when they saw an enemy plane already really damaged that wound't continue fighting they would leave him alone so the pilot would be able to try to land or parachute. Only in some ocassions in both sides some pilots decided to act like savages....

When I see people shooting paratroopers (or trying to) in this game I lose faith in them. Its the same as when I see in jet games people just rushing to the enemy base to kill spawning guys before they takeoff.... shamefull.

No, I don't think Gaijin should reward players who shoot paratrooping pilots that would be sickening.
Jackie CHAMIKAZE 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 8:04 
can we atleast kill yak-3 pilots?
Desolator 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 8:27 
It's why they don't add infantry or "killable" crew members with gore. They'd have to raise the game rating. Plus you'd look like a grade-A ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for doing so.
DarthHammer 2015 年 7 月 14 日 下午 9:52 
引用自 Desolator
It's why they don't add infantry or "killable" crew members with gore. They'd have to raise the game rating. Plus you'd look like a grade-A ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for doing so.

Also a War Criminal.

Its debatable which of those is worse.
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