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War Thunder is Patron of Communism
Don't you see? All Russian vehicles are overpowered, 70% of the pictures and backgrounds are about Russian Communist piece of ♥♥♥♥♥! Like the picture of Weapons of Victory Communist Russia was not the only country who won the WW2! AND WE WHO ARE NOT COMMUNISTS HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH SO THATS WHY I MADE THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT MY OPINION OF THIS GAME!



PS: The game would be much better if the Russian vehicles wouldn't be so OP

This article in Nutshell in Finnish
HAISTAKAA VIT*U SAAT*NAN RYSSÄT JA PAINUKAA HELV*TTIIN!
Отредактировано Lone Wolf 🐺; 9 июл. 2015 г. в 7:28
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There is no constitutional right to freedom of speech on private websites on the Internet. There are forum rules for a reason. Threads on bias pop up with regularity and there is fierce debate on which country has it. I realize tempers run high on this issue too especially in threads with such an inflammatory title.

The issue is the matchmaker and Gaijin is well aware of it hence recent dev blogs on the quantitative restriction system and BR adjustments.

Please refrain from personal attacks or insults thrown at each other or I'll have to do more than warn in posts.
Отредактировано ShadowSutekh; 9 июл. 2015 г. в 11:30
Im sure that while you accuse Gaijin of communist in two days you will create a post accusing them of greedy (capitalism) and paytowin. Which in both cases you would be wrong.

This game isn't communist for portraying communism, and you alledge freedom of speech while you say they should stop posting images with russian planes and tanks (which by the way are always accompanied by other non-communist faction planes)? Hypocrite.

Get over it, communism nowardays is almost imposible in the world, an surprise, neither Gaijin neither Russia are communists but capitalists. What they are is called patriotic in the same way you are patriotic about your country.
just another anti-russian hating them because he can't beat their slopped armour or planes....
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...there might be a REASON germany lost the war.....

Because the Germany Army was led by a Corporal and not it's Generals.
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just another anti-russian hating them because he can't beat their slopped armour or planes....


i can't quite put my finger on it, but something is telling me you might have some kind of bias on this subject...what could it be?
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Автор сообщения: Soviet Onion.
just another anti-russian hating them because he can't beat their slopped armour or planes....


i can't quite put my finger on it, but something is telling me you might have some kind of bias on this subject...what could it be?
i'm not bias, i just get a little sick of all the weekly "russia is OP Bias and here is why XXXX"......
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i can't quite put my finger on it, but something is telling me you might have some kind of bias on this subject...what could it be?
i'm not bias, i just get a little sick of all the weekly "russia is OP Bias and here is why XXXX"......
The reasons are never backed up with actual proof too. I never see stats, gameplay footage that legitimately suites their claim, and so forth. It's always just "Russian vehicles never die and the devs are Russian so they're evil and doing this on purpose. I have proof that they are OP, the proof is my word"
Отредактировано Dakota; 9 июл. 2015 г. в 12:33
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i'm not bias, i just get a little sick of all the weekly "russia is OP Bias and here is why XXXX"......
The reasons are never backed up with actual proof too. I never see stats, gameplay footage that legitimately suites their claim, and so forth. It's always just "Russian vehicles never die and the devs are Russian so they're evil and doing this on purpose. I have proof that they are OP, the proof is my word"

my proof, which you'll have to take my word for it, is that i'm not that good in tanks nor do i claim to be (modes matter, but not that much)...I'll routinely get 5 kills in a kv2 while dying not at all or 1 time, I don't do anything different than I would in other nations..I'm just in a KV2 and know that most things won't really do much to me...So i guess the only thing i do differently is play with overconfidence since I know...KV2.

Matches play incredibly different between nations.

The other 'proof of bias' could even the be tech tree's themselves. why are they not even? why are there way more russian stuff than US, and marginally more than the germans? There isn't a really valid reason why they couldn't put out the same # of vehicles for each nation when they patch...for example, 2 planes for each, or 2 tanks for each, etc. Why did the russians get like 6 vehicles last patch, while the US got what, like 2 or 3?

also...the constant super sekrit dokumentz that keep showing up.
Отредактировано scruffycavetroll; 9 июл. 2015 г. в 12:48
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my proof, which you'll have to take my word for it, is that i'm not that good in tanks nor do i claim to be...I'll routinely get 5 kills in a kv2 while dying not at all or 1 time, I don't do anything different than I would in other nations..I'm just in a KV2 and know that most things won't really do much to me...So i guess the only thing i do differently is play with overconfidence since I know...KV2.
KV2s suffer from a lack of reload time and from their large profile, all one has to do is trick it into firing and missing, then easily peak out and shoot it without any opposition. Confidence/moral and such I feel are really responsible for why people report Russians dominating everyone else. When your team goes in feeling like they've already lost, and they distract themselves with the "Russian bias" crap they tend to play worse than they could, a lot tend to just give up, I've even seen people just suicide and quit at the start of a game because of it.

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The other 'proof of bias' could even the be tech tree's themselves. why are they not even? why are there way more russian stuff than US, and marginally more than the germans? There isn't a really valid reason why they couldn't put out the same # of vehicles for each nation when they patch...for example, 2 planes for each, or 2 tanks for each, etc. Why did the russians get like 6 vehicles last patch, while the US got what, like 2 or 3?
An uneven tech tree doesn't result in an uneven match.
With 5 nations, there's bound to be one who has more over the other.
Gaijin is based in Russia, the equipment that they need/want to research for the Russian nation is closer to them than anything else for any other nation is, plus, because they reside in Russia it's probably easier for them to gain access to certain equipment. Another factor of course could be that fact that, well, they themselves are Russian and want to research Russian things, maybe they do it because they're proud of their country? It's their game, they should be allowed to do whatever they want without being judged for taking pride in their country, especially by American players. It may be bias to add more to their country's tree, but not all bias is negative, it doesn't matter, it doesn't negatively impact gameplay.
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The reasons are never backed up with actual proof too. I never see stats, gameplay footage that legitimately suites their claim, and so forth. It's always just "Russian vehicles never die and the devs are Russian so they're evil and doing this on purpose. I have proof that they are OP, the proof is my word"
The other 'proof of bias' could even the be tech tree's themselves. why are they not even? why are there way more russian stuff than US, and marginally more than the germans? There isn't a really valid reason why they couldn't put out the same # of vehicles for each nation when they patch...for example, 2 planes for each, or 2 tanks for each, etc. Why did the russians get like 6 vehicles last patch, while the US got what, like 2 or 3?

also...the constant super sekrit dokumentz that keep showing up.

There really isn't much to add to the US tree, for example, but more variants of based off of the M4 chassis, as they used that as the basis for pretty much anything from medium tank and self propelled howitzers and mortars and even up to just as transport tanks. M3 and M2 have the most used variants in, M22 Locust and M24 Chaffee are there, all the tank destroyers are there and most cold war era tanks are also there up to the date of the Leopard 1. Basically, the US tree is pretty much complete and to add to it you'd either have to add very obscure prototype projects or maybe stuff that was only done on paper or, as I mentioned, just add more M4 variants, I believe we don't have enough yet.

The German tree, again, is pretty much complete with most major and a few minor tanks used by the Germans. The only thing you could add, as they did with the planes, would be the Italian tanks up to 1943 or add maybe the Leichttraktor or the Pz. I, but they would be reserve vehicle material only, if at all. The only thing that Germany currently could be argued to have a problem is Tier V, as the tree is sorely lacking tanks for the cold war era and the only way to fill it would be by employing the same method as with the planes and add things like the M41, M47, M48, certain T-34 and T-54 models. The armor, unless we are talking about the Panther and Tiger II, was mostly boxy and therefore easily penetrated and the only thing where there might be a slight bias is in the deadliness of the PzGr. 39 and its upgraded variants, as it did use less explosive filler than comparable russian shells, but explosives of a higher explosive quality.

Yet, I get killed often just as easily in Russian tanks as I kill Russian tanks and I survived shellings in German or American tanks that were unreal. As I started out with German tanks I had to learn a few lessons very quickly and applying the techniques learned there while driving a Russian tank can make some rounds seem like seal clubbing, but that is experience.

The real problem here, however, isn't the bias, it is that many things are homogenized, that, no matter the mode, each tank has the same sights and in this game you have much better posibilities at situational awareness than in real life, where a tank commander often had to manage 3 or even 4 other guys and coordinate their actions. Sights, coordination and the troubles and faults that many of the tanks had, are not and can not be truly represented in the game, making many Russian tanks seem better than they were in real life. That, combined with the developer being Russian, makes up the Russian Bias feeling you sometimes get.
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cool story brah..... no, not really cool...just a typical russia-OP bias thread.

I've played this game for over 599 hours. He's right. The russian bias is pretty strong, but no to the point where other nations are COMPLETELY unplayable. Just somewhat unplayable. And whatever you do, don't use germany, it's extremely biased against them.

Utter nonsense.

I have played this over 4000 hours, I have unlocked every vehicle in game, both planes and tanks, spaded all but the last ones introduced in 1.51, and I don't find any nation OP, just some nations shine more at certain BR, for Russia it seems to be the lower ratings.

If for example I want to do a 10 kill wager I'd go Germany, for Golden Wagers I usually go US...
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...there might be a REASON germany lost the war.....

Because the Germany Army was led by a Corporal and not it's Generals.

Because the entire world declared war on them.
My only problem with the USSR Planes is that up until Tier III they show situational dominance. At those levels the USSR Planes are extremely well armed for their BR. Not only that, but they preform extremely well at low altitude which the majority of battles happen at within the BR. Combine this with the fact that they are extremely plentiful due to the large Eastern Europe player base and the idea that they are relatively newb friendly planes will lead you to believe all you're getting killed by is the USSR.

To be honest you're belief in such is probably true because that is what a lot of people fly when they want to go clubbing.
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Because the Germany Army was led by a Corporal and not it's Generals.

Because the entire world declared war on them.
Kind of the other way around
I have noticed that whenever my pilot is knocked out its due to a russian plane, but I play Brits mostly and regularly turn russian planes inside out, the better pilot will win, or the one approaching the battle from a more favourable position.

Situational awareness wins air battles, not cannons. (well, cannons help)
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