The ussr hasn't really recieved any top tier tanks for a while

[F0XTR0T-141™]

i was just wondering if there has been any leaks or anything for a new ussr tank

[[Giver Of The Beans]]

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I really want a t-90m only because i think it looks cool. I wouldnt even care if it preformed like the t-72a. I just think its neat. Also add more merkavas thx

They should add Leo2A7V and T90M in a double so all big 3 got a new one.

i want them too add every tank possible tbh

[Col. Cornbread]

Russia pretty much has every "Modern" mbt they have... and the ingame performance massively outperforms its IRL performance when facing late 80s darts...

[Neckstabba]

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Russia pretty much has every "Modern" mbt they have... and the ingame performance massively outperforms its IRL performance when facing late 80s darts...

Meanwhile NATO tanks have the wrong armor values and are weaker than they should be. "Sekrit" documents says so i guess.

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Russia pretty much has every "Modern" mbt they have... and the ingame performance massively outperforms its IRL performance when facing late 80s darts...

Meanwhile NATO tanks have the wrong armor values and are weaker than they should be. "Sekrit" documents says so i guess.

ERA values for russian tanks are false aswell, they made many threads in the forums but kept getting the same old answer, "balanse wise". that goes for everyone, so dont expect anyone to get real values.

What russia needs the most are BTRs because they dont have any unlike italy which has god knows how many, instead were getting a T-90M you'll see.

[Col. Cornbread]

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Meanwhile NATO tanks have the wrong armor values and are weaker than they should be. "Sekrit" documents says so i guess.

They use the lowest estimated value of Western Armor types/thickness and for the Russian tanks they use over the highest estimate of armor/ERA values.

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Meanwhile NATO tanks have the wrong armor values and are weaker than they should be. "Sekrit" documents says so i guess.

They use the lowest value of Estimate Western Armor types/thickness and for the Russian tanks they use over the highest estimate of armor/ERA values.

thats a fictional thought, just take a look at the turret cheeks of leopard2 or the abrams, but while were at armor, can someone tell me why the new M1A2SEP doesnt have uranium armor components because as of now its just a M1A2 with era modification.

[Neckstabba]

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They use the lowest value of Estimate Western Armor types/thickness and for the Russian tanks they use over the highest estimate of armor/ERA values.

thats a fictional thought, just take a look at the turret cheeks of leopard2 or the abrams, but while were at armor, can someone tell me why the new M1A2SEP doesnt have uranium armor components because as of now its just a M1A2 with era modification.

M1A2 had 2nd gen DU armor and SEP had 3rd gen DU armor in the hull. Turret had the same DU armor value. Hull of the SEP should be like the BVM or Strv 122B non pennable but that would make it harder for Russia so we dont get it. Bias reasons

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thats a fictional thought, just take a look at the turret cheeks of leopard2 or the abrams, but while were at armor, can someone tell me why the new M1A2SEP doesnt have uranium armor components because as of now its just a M1A2 with era modification.

M1A2 had 2nd gen DU armor and SEP had 3rd gen DU armor in the hull. Turret had the same DU armor value. Hull of the SEP should be like the BVM or Strv 122B non pennable but that would make it harder for Russia so we dont get it. Bias reasons :WH3_greasus_rofl:

Well it would make it harder for everyone you face, not only russians, atleast they partially modelled the german and russian tanks properly, the only one with better turret armor than russia is china, they have a very very good turret era which is covering every corner.

[FizzyElf]

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M1A2 had 2nd gen DU armor and SEP had 3rd gen DU armor in the hull. Turret had the same DU armor value. Hull of the SEP should be like the BVM or Strv 122B non pennable but that would make it harder for Russia so we dont get it. Bias reasons :WH3_greasus_rofl:

Well it would make it harder for everyone you face, not only russians, atleast they partially modelled the german and russian tanks properly, the only one with better turret armor than russia is china, they have a very very good turret era which is covering every corner.

And they make it like its actually meant to be a part of the tank rather than mad maxing it onto their vehicles like russia does. But 3rd gen DU would be a bit of a problem right now as most of the tanks you fight wouldn't be able to pen you with the first hit or the 11th hit unlike the STRV or BVM, the whole reason gaijin hasn't added any other tanks like the leopard 2PL is because of how hard it is to kill them when hull down, the SEP is a 2PL that never needs to be hull down. Russia may be OP but that doesn't mean they are on par with the real life SEP or any where near it.

[cat]

no fuc#ing way

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Well it would make it harder for everyone you face, not only russians, atleast they partially modelled the german and russian tanks properly, the only one with better turret armor than russia is china, they have a very very good turret era which is covering every corner.

And they make it like its actually meant to be a part of the tank rather than mad maxing it onto their vehicles like russia does. But 3rd gen DU would be a bit of a problem right now as most of the tanks you fight wouldn't be able to pen you with the first hit or the 11th hit unlike the STRV or BVM, the whole reason gaijin hasn't added any other tanks like the leopard 2PL is because of how hard it is to kill them when hull down, the SEP is a 2PL that never needs to be hull down. Russia may be OP but that doesn't mean they are on par with the real life SEP or any where near it.

Not really. For BVM and Strv 122 you need to aim under the barrel just as you would have with the SEP. Driver port area would be the weakpoint and that's where allot of people shoot anyways. It would just remove the driver area hull weakpoint but the overall area to pen is still bigger than that of the Strv 122.
Not to mention the SEP has ♥♥♥♥ ERA on the side which is easy to pen with darts unlike the BVM's Relikt black hole.

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And they make it like its actually meant to be a part of the tank rather than mad maxing it onto their vehicles like russia does. But 3rd gen DU would be a bit of a problem right now as most of the tanks you fight wouldn't be able to pen you with the first hit or the 11th hit unlike the STRV or BVM, the whole reason gaijin hasn't added any other tanks like the leopard 2PL is because of how hard it is to kill them when hull down, the SEP is a 2PL that never needs to be hull down. Russia may be OP but that doesn't mean they are on par with the real life SEP or any where near it.

Not really. For BVM and Strv 122 you need to aim under the barrel just as you would have with the SEP. Driver port area would be the weakpoint and that's where allot of people shoot anyways. It would just remove the driver area hull weakpoint but the overall area to pen is still bigger than that of the Strv 122.
Not to mention the SEP has ♥♥♥♥ ERA on the side which is easy to pen with darts unlike the BVM's Relikt black hole.

Theres a difference between TUSK era & 4S23/4S24, while the soviets already worked with era in the 60's the americans started in 2006 but only limited use and in low numbers and this havent changed the full use of era on the abrams was happening sometime in 2018 on M1A2SEPv2 Abrams' variants, the USA got little to no experience when it comes to era, compared with the countries in eastern europe, this results in very bad performance and weights down the tank like crazy, i would even say its better without the extra armor, the T-90M for example is using further improved Relikt plates along with afghanit, thats third gen era compared with gen1, but it seems like the americans do not really care about their ERA its an addon for them rather than being part of the tank.

[jaxjace]

Russia shouldnt get any new vehicles for at least a year, they are stacked to the 9s at all BRs right now.

[F0XTR0T-141™]

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Russia shouldnt get any new vehicles for at least a year, they are stacked to the 9s at all BRs right now.

they only have one 11.0 tank rn meanwhile america have 2

germany have 2

britain have 3

so russia atleast need 1 more 11.0 tank to equilize it

[Gjeaneman]

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Publicado originalmente por jaxjace:

Russia shouldnt get any new vehicles for at least a year, they are stacked to the 9s at all BRs right now.

they only have one 11.0 tank rn meanwhile america have 2

germany have 2

britain have 3

so russia atleast need 1 more 11.0 tank to equilize it

If you're actually serious you should try and play top tier against russia and come back to us when you realise that russia is the strongest nation at top tier