How to survive as the F-14 IRIAF 13.0

[AndSoDerp]

Welp, the F-14 IRIAF is now at 13.0. Doesn't have the agility of a Gripen nor a Eurofighter, and it doesn't have enough countermeasures to pre flare an IR missile like the R73 or the AIM-9M, and the Fakours although still usable is outclassed by every radar guided missiles at its br.

So I ask how does one even use the F-14 at this BR or even survive? So far I pretty much now a ambush fighter by launching Fakours from low altitude at high altitude aircrafts or a support/clean up fighter with the AIM-7E-2s with the R-27s. Everything else, its just hopeless, its easier for me to just slam my aircraft into the ground than counter anything in my rear cuz they're just getting a free kill and I won't let them.

I can already see someone typing "It's actually very good at 13.0 you just sucks". Buddy just because you can doesn't mean everyone can the only reason I hear why it went up to 13.0 is because of the Fakours, and I am someone who has to learn from trial and error because people like you who refuse to give advise as well as the shame of even asking since according to you guys the F-14 is the easiest jet to use in top tier.

Update: Friendship over with IRIAF, F-14B is my new friend

[Neckstabba]

Originally posted by AndSoDerp:

Originally posted by Neckstabba:

All fakour 90 uses deserve to suffer. I really enjoy ripping them apart for playing that skillless plane.

so you're pretty much saying that you bully low skill players bcuz its easy and you're also a low skill player yourself. By that logic meta jets are also skillless since you just bully lower tier jets

Fakour 90 bullies everyone in a downtier. So the IRAF F14 players deserve to get curb stomped by the 14.0 players now. At least the 14.0 players often fight against planes that can fight back. How was it fair that the F14 IRAF could face a lot of downtiers vs Mig23ML and F4S players? Truly marvelous to farm the premium players, no?

Even now, 13.0 gets enough downtiers to still be free of the aim120 uptier. It sits perfectly where it is.

[AndSoDerp]

Originally posted by Neckstabba:

Originally posted by AndSoDerp:

so you're pretty much saying that you bully low skill players bcuz its easy and you're also a low skill player yourself. By that logic meta jets are also skillless since you just bully lower tier jets

Fakour 90 bullies everyone in a downtier. So the IRAF F14 players deserve to get curb stomped by the 14.0 players now. At least the 14.0 players often fight against planes that can fight back. How was it fair that the F14 IRAF could face a lot of downtiers vs Mig23ML and F4S players? Truly marvelous to farm the premium players, no?

Even now, 13.0 gets enough downtiers to still be free of the aim120 uptier. It sits perfectly where it is.

"How was it fair that the F14 IRAF could face a lot of downtiers vs Mig23ML and F4S players? Truly marvelous to farm the premium players, no?"

Same reason why you bully aircrafts like the F-14 or at downtiers, skillles. If they learned how to dogfight and pay attention instead of base bombing in a predictable pattern they wouldn't have a problem. How come I can easily win a dogfight against an F4S and ML in my F4J without a gun or how come my Fakours don't hit their target when they try to actively maneuver? If anything allowing the IRIAF to be at 13.0 allows F4S and other premium players to continue base bombing and not learn anything, and when they finally get to top tier they'll complain about it and be mocked. Just like how you're now mocking me for even wanting to try and learn. TLDR, gatekeeping by bullying and being hypocritical. Again as I stated, by your logic everyone who don't plays the meta gets to be bullied for free and be mocked for even trying.

Do yourself a favor and try playing an F-14 and lets see if its as skillles as you say better yet try grinding it. If you do play it then give me advice rather than just flexing how easy it is to kill them. If not then F off and enjoy bullying other players for not being like you. Unless you consider this as fun as bullying a F-14 player then sure whatever why don't you also post this in every WT discussion and bully me to death cuz I'm sure you'll feel proud of it for the rest of your life just like every WT player I meet. Hell why stop there, make me the poster child as the Smartest US player.

Its funny that I struggle with the IRIAF but not the F-14B.

[Neckstabba]

Originally posted by AndSoDerp:

Originally posted by Neckstabba:

Fakour 90 bullies everyone in a downtier. So the IRAF F14 players deserve to get curb stomped by the 14.0 players now. At least the 14.0 players often fight against planes that can fight back. How was it fair that the F14 IRAF could face a lot of downtiers vs Mig23ML and F4S players? Truly marvelous to farm the premium players, no?

Even now, 13.0 gets enough downtiers to still be free of the aim120 uptier. It sits perfectly where it is.

"How was it fair that the F14 IRAF could face a lot of downtiers vs Mig23ML and F4S players? Truly marvelous to farm the premium players, no?"

Same reason why you bully aircrafts like the F-14 or at downtiers, skillles. If they learned how to dogfight and pay attention instead of base bombing in a predictable pattern they wouldn't have a problem. How come I can easily win a dogfight against an F4S and ML in my F4J without a gun or how come my Fakours don't hit their target when they try to actively maneuver? If anything allowing the IRIAF to be at 13.0 allows F4S and other premium players to continue base bombing and not learn anything, and when they finally get to top tier they'll complain about it and be mocked. Just like how you're now mocking me for even wanting to try and learn. TLDR, gatekeeping by bullying and being hypocritical. Again as I stated, by your logic everyone who don't plays the meta gets to be bullied for free and be mocked for even trying.

Do yourself a favor and try playing an F-14 and lets see if its as skillles as you say better yet try grinding it. If you do play it then give me advice rather than just flexing how easy it is to kill them. If not then F off and enjoy bullying other players for not being like you. Unless you consider this as fun as bullying a F-14 player then sure whatever why don't you also post this in every WT discussion and bully me to death cuz I'm sure you'll feel proud of it for the rest of your life just like every WT player I meet. Hell why stop there, make me the poster child as the Smartest US player.

Its funny that I struggle with the IRIAF but not the F-14B.

Where did i mock you? It literally requires no skill to fly to 10k alt and launch 4 Fakours at everything. You outrange anything. Even the 120' top tier jets have to respect that range or die. The Fakour 90 is, even in top tier, sometimes very hard to multipath due to the speed and explosion radious. If anything, the plane itself should be higher but whatever.

Nobody complains about the F14B because the missiles are not flying 10 times the speed of other missiles. Its actually quite balanced. The F14B can perform really well at high alt and deny enemy the zone due to the long range of the missiles. Many people struggle to notch anyway and then get hit by the phoenix anyway. Its also pretty reliable at top down attacks as long as you have range to give the phoenix the time to build up speed.

I have 8 nations to top tier, thanks anyway for that. Ive played my plenty of time with the F14, and like ive said before, the F14A and B are fine. The Fakour 90 itself is the problem. Its a top tier missile with a below top tier airframe (kinda like the F4F ICE). It does not belong below that range as it did before.

Its even easier with the Fakour to collect kills as the missile is gigantic and quick too. Without facing 120' slingers you were basically uncontested at high alt, everything was your prey and not the other way around. Multipathing (hitting the deck) more often than not is still killing you (or the target) as the missile has a massive AOE effect that will destroy the missed plane anyway.

The IRAF also gets access to the R27R1 which is BY FAR superior to the ♥♥♥♥ thats called 7F/M. Even if you lose the lock, the R1 will still fly towards the last known location before detonating. 7F/M would just destroy itself the moment you lose the lock.

F14B is the better airframe but has worse missiles.
IRAF is the worse airframe but has better missiles.

Both will die to many of the 13.7+ planes due to them being massively stronger than anything below them. The only big difference is, that the Fakour is playing on the 13.7+ area while the phoenix does not.