would you as a player love to see new american tanks in the battlepass?

[pandakitten]

as Russian tier is god tier some days a lot of my friend wish for a american battle pass tank. I don't play american cause i am a Sweden nerd but let me hear you heart on this topic,
remember be kind and nice in comments have a great day.
i read mostly all comments and i agree smaller nations need buff in tank amount and not a copy paste type lol

[Tom]

Nguyên văn bởi Maj.Tryhard:

Nguyên văn bởi Tom:

the only reason russia has these winrates is because players refuse to use their main advtange: mobility, Nato MBTS end up stuck in CQC which russian tanks excel in because they either don't flank or expect to lolpen them like they did for the past couple years, but now that russia has a tank that can take a hit people are losing their crap because they don't shoot for weakspots or don't flank

But why does it matter how they got these win rates? It wouldn't matter in any other case, Gaijin's balans-bot would say 'they have a much higher win rate than anybody else, fix it.' How long do you think an entire 3 BR bracket of Japanese planes could have a 60% win and stay untouched?

If the entire community is failing to "use their main advantage," there's clearly something wrong. I can't speak for top tier, but I know I've gotten used to being in a light tank headed for a cap and looking over to see a friendly Russian medium keeping pace with me.

At top tier, exactly how much faster are NATO vehicles? I doubt it's enough to make a difference with the size of these maps.

around 10 to 20 km/h faster, they have better turret traverse, depression reload and pen most of the time, most have better sights too yes it's enough to be a big difference, also most light tanks outpace russian mediums except ones on the slower side

[FizzyElf]

Nguyên văn bởi Maj.Tryhard:

At top tier, exactly how much faster are NATO vehicles? I doubt it's enough to make a difference with the size of these maps.

Thats the fun part, they aren't, russian vehicles are supposed to be slower (besides the T-80 line) but in practice they accelerate just as fast and will keep pace with nato tanks on most maps (something like fulda will see the T-72 line struggle or outright fail to keep up while driving hundreds of meters up hill). The T-80's on the other hand accelerate faster and reach their top speed sooner and can hold on to it on bad terrain like snow and mud better than nato tanks, the PT16 used to compete with them but gaijin nerfed it, the Type 10 should keep up with T-80's but gaijin nerfed that too (though this time they did it prior to release), so you got stuff like the XM-1 and HSTV-L having to be the spear head against the T-80's and reach the caps around the same time (which is fine by me, both of those tanks are a ton of fun to drive/use and even fight against) but the XM/HS's are american only and everyone else is stuck with wheeled vehicles which suck in bad terrain and the T-80's will eat them alive in CQC at a cap circle.

Nato vehicles need to fight the russians at range but even then the T-80 line will give them hell and the later T-72's have amazing ATGM's to deal with long range targets as well as 3BM60 (their gunner sights suck compared to the 80's though). The biggest problem is that the russians will take the caps if the Nato players sit at range, so you need to hope that the russians 1 death leave so you can pick them off and then walk in to the cap uncontested which almost never happens with tech tree russian players as they have 3 or more MBT's plus a heli or ATGM carrier that they will spam out every time they die.

The 70% win rate is something that will take either an insanely good nato MBT to break or gaijin will need to focus multiple patches around balancing them out of their 70% win rate so that hopefully they get down to 40-50%, start losing SL, stop spawning 3+ times every match (ideally 1 or 2 spawns per match like nato players) and the rest of the community moves on to complain about something else. All of this^ will be a ton of work and its a little late in the year to start now, maybe next year.

[FizzyElf]

Nguyên văn bởi Tom:

Nguyên văn bởi Maj.Tryhard:

But why does it matter how they got these win rates? It wouldn't matter in any other case, Gaijin's balans-bot would say 'they have a much higher win rate than anybody else, fix it.' How long do you think an entire 3 BR bracket of Japanese planes could have a 60% win and stay untouched?

If the entire community is failing to "use their main advantage," there's clearly something wrong. I can't speak for top tier, but I know I've gotten used to being in a light tank headed for a cap and looking over to see a friendly Russian medium keeping pace with me.

At top tier, exactly how much faster are NATO vehicles? I doubt it's enough to make a difference with the size of these maps.

around 10 to 20 km/h faster, they have better turret traverse, depression reload and pen most of the time, most have better sights too yes it's enough to be a big difference, also most light tanks outpace russian mediums except ones on the slower side

Thats top speed, you have to reach it and it will take a while to do so, during that time the russian MBT will be right next to or right behind you.

[Idouts]

Nguyên văn bởi NapoleonBornToParty:

double standard again?
yes russian tech tree already had too much vehicles but NONE of them are god tier!!
rather than murica, we need more minor nations vehicles from battlepass

Russian tanks are powered by propaganda numbers because its ""historical""

Reality is that their armor is made of toilet paper and their ERA is made of sand.

[Tom]

Nguyên văn bởi FizzyElf:

Nguyên văn bởi Tom:

around 10 to 20 km/h faster, they have better turret traverse, depression reload and pen most of the time, most have better sights too yes it's enough to be a big difference, also most light tanks outpace russian mediums except ones on the slower side

Thats top speed, you have to reach it and it will take a while to do so, during that time the russian MBT will be right next to or right behind you.

No? Russian MBTs have worse acceleration you'll outspeed them except one, the BVM since it has an upgraded engine

[FizzyElf]

Nguyên văn bởi Tom:

Nguyên văn bởi FizzyElf:

Thats top speed, you have to reach it and it will take a while to do so, during that time the russian MBT will be right next to or right behind you.

No? Russian MBTs have worse acceleration you'll outspeed them except one, the BVM since it has an upgraded engine

Have you ever played a nato MBT with russian allies? the T-80's are incredibly fast and the later 72's will keep pace for a little while. I mean I don't know about your leclerc but I've beaten others in them to cap circles and I usually arrive at the same time as an XM-1 or a Radwagon or just after they make it in the circle. All of the 80's are fast as hell.

[Guiguo]

I would like they would fix top tier air for japan

[Tom]

Nguyên văn bởi FizzyElf:

Nguyên văn bởi Tom:

No? Russian MBTs have worse acceleration you'll outspeed them except one, the BVM since it has an upgraded engine

Have you ever played a nato MBT with russian allies? the T-80's are incredibly fast and the later 72's will keep pace for a little while. I mean I don't know about your leclerc but I've beaten others in them to cap circles and I usually arrive at the same time as an XM-1 or a Radwagon or just after they make it in the circle. All of the 80's are fast as hell.

i have, they don't unless you don't have any engine upgrades, it takes abotu five seconds to outspeed them unless you're turning everywhere swhile they're going in a strajight line

[FizzyElf]

Nguyên văn bởi Tom:

Nguyên văn bởi FizzyElf:

Have you ever played a nato MBT with russian allies? the T-80's are incredibly fast and the later 72's will keep pace for a little while. I mean I don't know about your leclerc but I've beaten others in them to cap circles and I usually arrive at the same time as an XM-1 or a Radwagon or just after they make it in the circle. All of the 80's are fast as hell.

i have, they don't unless you don't have any engine upgrades, it takes abotu five seconds to outspeed them unless you're turning everywhere swhile they're going in a strajight line

Well then either me an my friends are blessed by the snail or you are.

[FizzyElf]

Nguyên văn bởi Guiguo:

I would like they would fix top tier air for japan

They need to fix top tier japan period but thats not going to happen.

[legaroojack]

Nguyên văn bởi NapoleonBornToParty:

double standard again?
yes russian tech tree already had too much vehicles but NONE of them are god tier!!
rather than murica, we need more minor nations vehicles from battlepass

" non of them are god tier"


laughs in BMP2M, BVM, IS6, T44 and 2S6.

[Tom]

Nguyên văn bởi Peoples Republic of North Korea:

Nguyên văn bởi NapoleonBornToParty:

double standard again?
yes russian tech tree already had too much vehicles but NONE of them are god tier!!
rather than murica, we need more minor nations vehicles from battlepass

" non of them are god tier"


laughs in BMP2M, BVM, IS6, T44 and 2S6.

BVM only excels in Armor, being meh in everything else
2S6 Is only good for long range with things like the ITO90, ADATS or even flakarad being better at long range, the regular T44 Is overtiered at 6.7 and Is easy to kill if you aren't Brain damaged, the IS6 Is easily dealt with if you don't just shoot for the frontplate with things like the long 88 punching through it's mantlet like butter, it's a 7.0 heavy, it's not that great at a BR where MBTs start appearing. The only thing OP here Is the 2M