would you as a player love to see new american tanks in the battlepass?

[pandakitten]

as Russian tier is god tier some days a lot of my friend wish for a american battle pass tank. I don't play american cause i am a Sweden nerd but let me hear you heart on this topic,
remember be kind and nice in comments have a great day.
i read mostly all comments and i agree smaller nations need buff in tank amount and not a copy paste type lol

[FizzyElf]

引用自 Tom：

引用自 FizzyElf：

The second my T-80U gets nerfed is the second gaijin decides to give russia a T-80U Oplot

the only reason russia has these winrates is because players refuse to use their main advtange: mobility, Nato MBTS end up stuck in CQC which russian tanks excel in because they either don't flank or expect to lolpen them like they did for the past couple years, but now that russia has a tank that can take a hit people are losing their crap because they don't shoot for weakspots or don't flank

To be fair its not like any other nation has that, you see anything in a russian MBT you can pen it basically everywhere on the hull and sometimes the turret too (Type 10 or Ariete for example), but you fight against a russian MBT and you have to aim for a weak spot or nothing happens.

[dLFN]

引用自 NapoleonBornToParty：

double standard again?
yes russian tech tree already had too much vehicles but NONE of them are god tier!!
rather than murica, we need more minor nations vehicles from battlepass

I disagree. I think minor nations should get their tech trees filled with normal vehicles instead, if it's some weird prototype at a BR where there is a lot of vehicles then I could understand it being an event vehicle. A good example would be the Kranvagn for Sweden which is a very interesting partial prototype that would roughly be at 7.7 where Sweden has a lot of vehicles.

[Tom]

引用自 FizzyElf：

引用自 Tom：

the only reason russia has these winrates is because players refuse to use their main advtange: mobility, Nato MBTS end up stuck in CQC which russian tanks excel in because they either don't flank or expect to lolpen them like they did for the past couple years, but now that russia has a tank that can take a hit people are losing their crap because they don't shoot for weakspots or don't flank

To be fair its not like any other nation has that, you see anything in a russian MBT you can pen it basically everywhere on the hull and sometimes the turret too (Type 10 or Ariete for example), but you fight against a russian MBT and you have to aim for a weak spot or nothing happens.

you don't, except on the BVM, otherwise you actually point and click it if you're not using HEAT, check the pen indicator, it's not even a joke, the only top tier russian MBT that can take a hit is the BVM, and it lacks depression, mobility and firepower because of the reload rate, i think you having to aim for a big weakspot like the breach or LFP, especially with a laser rangefinder, is a pretty balanced trade off

[FizzyElf]

引用自 Quirked Up White Boy Goated With：

引用自 Tom：

the only reason russia has these winrates is because players refuse to use their main advtange: mobility, Nato MBTS end up stuck in CQC which russian tanks excel in because they either don't flank or expect to lolpen them like they did for the past couple years, but now that russia has a tank that can take a hit people are losing their crap because they don't shoot for weakspots or don't flank

The fact I can hit a T-54 with heat grenades on the ammo rack and have it magically either get absorbed by the armor or only wound a crew member or two (with 433mm of pen mind you) tells me there is something funny going on with Russian armor. Nevermind hitting any russian tank > 9.0 with APFSDS and watching it miraculously do almost no damage. You don't need to angle any of their tanks, or worry about anything than more than not exposing your side. With some of the tanks not even that matters.

Let's not even get started about how grossly undertiered the PT-76-57, BMP-3, etc are. Their 8.0-10.0 line ups have almost zero weaknesses and often roflstomp their BR stock. Their the only nation that gets SPAA that is a combination of an M163 and Gepard. I know, I farm SL using Russia because it's literally that easy. The win rates are entirely explainable by how I can literally turn off my brain and farm 9.0 for millions of SL whenever I need it.

The PT-76 needs be lowered ASAP, it just destroys 7.7 matches, at least at 7.0 I had to aim once in a while to kill something, now I face leos every match and can kill them from 2km away with easy not to mention the IFV's everywhere.

[76561198315424152]

Not a fan of bps at all

[Tom]

引用自 Quirked Up White Boy Goated With：

引用自 Tom：

that isn't a russian armor exclusive thing, it happens with every tank lol, i've had king tigers absorb up to EIGHT amx HEAT shells the BMP isn't that good, the PT7 is OP as hell but hasn't gone up because bad stats, and i play 9.0 often, especially since the start of the event and have no problem killing russian MBTs, that's a problem on your side.
Overall HEAT has become unreliable to the point where most tanks that use it as a main shell are borderline unusable, making a lot of french tanks garbage, the reason you can turn off your brazin at 10.0 it because of the new squadron and prenium vehicles recently introduced that dwarf the TURMS population currently: 2PL, AIM, Challenger DS, Leopard 2A4 PZBZ
And what anti air is a combination of an M163 And gepard Exactly? The only ones i could see are the shilka that is only good because it has four guns with a broken radar that doesn't lock and guns that barely shoot down planes a kilometer away while being able to kill tanks frontally unlike the gepard's apds (but to be fair the broken radar is a thing with most radar SPAAS since last update), it could also be the tunguska, which isn't close to being the best SPAA at it's BR, but it excels at close range SPAA work, which isn't very usefull at it's BR with guided munitions with kilometers of range

When I say HEAT grenade I mean the T114, BMP main gun, etc. HEAT itself has been known to be completely worthless for a long time. If I slam a super high pen explosive round into your armor it should kill you. It usually does with American, British, and German tanks. For some reason Russian MBTs just stop it (and no, I'm not talking about with kontakt).

The shilka radar is more than sufficient. I have the most SPAA kills with the shilka between all of the SPAAs because it tracks so well and sprays so much lead you just compensate for it and it works. This is unlike the M163 which has trouble holding a lock for more than 3 seconds, and the gepard which has a great radar but unless the enemy is on top of you its not very effective.

i've never had trouble with russian MBTs absorbing HEAT unless i shot at ERA or didn't have the range correct, HEAT getting asborbed is because of the thick angled armor, that's not even a joke, it can completely nullify HEAT even if it's supposed to go through, problem is most vehicle with that kind of armor are superheavies or early russian MBTs/heavies so until they fix HEAT the problem will be more noticeable with russian MBTs as they are built to take a hit

[Tom]

引用自 FizzyElf：

引用自 Quirked Up White Boy Goated With：

The fact I can hit a T-54 with heat grenades on the ammo rack and have it magically either get absorbed by the armor or only wound a crew member or two (with 433mm of pen mind you) tells me there is something funny going on with Russian armor. Nevermind hitting any russian tank > 9.0 with APFSDS and watching it miraculously do almost no damage. You don't need to angle any of their tanks, or worry about anything than more than not exposing your side. With some of the tanks not even that matters.

Let's not even get started about how grossly undertiered the PT-76-57, BMP-3, etc are. Their 8.0-10.0 line ups have almost zero weaknesses and often roflstomp their BR stock. Their the only nation that gets SPAA that is a combination of an M163 and Gepard. I know, I farm SL using Russia because it's literally that easy. The win rates are entirely explainable by how I can literally turn off my brain and farm 9.0 for millions of SL whenever I need it.

The PT-76 needs be lowered ASAP, it just destroys 7.7 matches, at least at 7.0 I had to aim once in a while to kill something, now I face leos every match and can kill them from 2km away with easy not to mention the IFV's everywhere.

yeah, absolutely insane how this thing isn't at least 8.0 or more balanced 8.3, it's a murder machine

[FizzyElf]

引用自 Tom：

引用自 FizzyElf：

The PT-76 needs be lowered ASAP, it just destroys 7.7 matches, at least at 7.0 I had to aim once in a while to kill something, now I face leos every match and can kill them from 2km away with easy not to mention the IFV's everywhere.

yeah, absolutely insane how this thing isn't at least 8.0 or more balanced 8.3, it's a murder machine

if they put it at 8.0 there will be nothing any of the IFV's can do to escape it, the early MBT's are already screwed over by it.

[Tom]

引用自 FizzyElf：

引用自 Tom：

yeah, absolutely insane how this thing isn't at least 8.0 or more balanced 8.3, it's a murder machine

if they put it at 8.0 there will be nothing any of the IFV's can do to escape it, the early MBT's are already screwed over by it.

any higher than that would make it obsolete, and early IFVs have autocanons and stabilizers to counter it

[Swag Messiah]

引用自 Tom：

引用自 FizzyElf：

To be fair its not like any other nation has that, you see anything in a russian MBT you can pen it basically everywhere on the hull and sometimes the turret too (Type 10 or Ariete for example), but you fight against a russian MBT and you have to aim for a weak spot or nothing happens.

you don't, except on the BVM, otherwise you actually point and click it if you're not using HEAT, check the pen indicator, it's not even a joke, the only top tier russian MBT that can take a hit is the BVM, and it lacks depression, mobility and firepower because of the reload rate, i think you having to aim for a big weakspot like the breach or LFP, especially with a laser rangefinder, is a pretty balanced trade off

When I Talk about difficulty in the game I am talking about realistic battles. Of course it's ez mode face roll on arcade, it literally has a built in aimbot.

[FizzyElf]

引用自 Quirked Up White Boy Goated With：

引用自 Tom：

you don't, except on the BVM, otherwise you actually point and click it if you're not using HEAT, check the pen indicator, it's not even a joke, the only top tier russian MBT that can take a hit is the BVM, and it lacks depression, mobility and firepower because of the reload rate, i think you having to aim for a big weakspot like the breach or LFP, especially with a laser rangefinder, is a pretty balanced trade off

When I Talk about difficulty in the game I am talking about realistic battles. Of course it's ez mode face roll on arcade, it literally has a built in aimbot.

TAPNA, 3BM46-60 and our 9M ATGM's all rip through NERA like its made of paper (the only one that struggles slightly is TAP but thats just because gaijin messed up the numbers for its pen, 0 meters 0 degree pen in game should be its ~2500 meter pen, TAP is insanely good). For Nato you have the late merkava APFSDS, the M2 Abrams top round and DM53, all of them will fail if you don't aim on the BVM and any round lower than them will fail to pen the T-80U, struggle to get through the moderna, and generally fail to pen the T-90 and 72B3. Its insane how tanky these little T series tanks can be and if you aim instead of lol pen you will usually one shot everything because they can't stop you from penning them and instantly killing all of the crew.

[MaDeuce]

引用自 Tidsloop：

Not a fan of bps at all

[FUS RO DAH]

hmmm, after playing russia all the way to 9.3+ (i also have top tier in other nation) i wouldnt say russia has god tier tech tree, they have strong BR brackets lineup but many nations have strong BR lineup too. (the game need more balance AND BR DECOMPRESSION)
saying ''russian'' bias this and that without talking about germany or sweden or US br8-11 lineups seem to be a biased opinion
but, i do think that Russia dominate top tier ground RB (br 10.7+) in ground RB because of the t80u t80bvm+ka50 and ka52 and mig27k combo which is really strong in the right hand AND the right matchmaking, but.. i dont think they dominate the BR 8-10.

[Maj.Tryhard]

引用自 Tom：

引用自 FizzyElf：

The second my T-80U gets nerfed is the second gaijin decides to give russia a T-80U Oplot

the only reason russia has these winrates is because players refuse to use their main advtange: mobility, Nato MBTS end up stuck in CQC which russian tanks excel in because they either don't flank or expect to lolpen them like they did for the past couple years, but now that russia has a tank that can take a hit people are losing their crap because they don't shoot for weakspots or don't flank

But why does it matter how they got these win rates? It wouldn't matter in any other case, Gaijin's balans-bot would say 'they have a much higher win rate than anybody else, fix it.' How long do you think an entire 3 BR bracket of Japanese planes could have a 60% win and stay untouched?

If the entire community is failing to "use their main advantage," there's clearly something wrong. I can't speak for top tier, but I know I've gotten used to being in a light tank headed for a cap and looking over to see a friendly Russian medium keeping pace with me.

At top tier, exactly how much faster are NATO vehicles? I doubt it's enough to make a difference with the size of these maps.

[♠Gamer3106♠]

Screw America Italy needs new top tier jets