How can the tiger 1's driver hatch, and those little metal bars block a 122mm round?

[Abist Thuringiensis]

It always confuses me

[Sinclair]

bad game mechanics

[Coelian]

Originally posted by Van Sinclair:

bad game mechanics

nope.
Just metal bars of steel.

[Spaddobird]

The metal bars are placed over the existing armour plate I believe, so it has the protection from the main plate as well as the additional armour.

Either shoot the Tiger 1 directly in the center of its main plate or to its far right (Opposite side to the driver's hatch) in order to detonate its ammunition load. There is never a good reason to go for the Tiger's driver port.

[Sinclair]

Originally posted by Lila Herz:

Originally posted by Van Sinclair:

bad game mechanics

nope.
Just metal bars of steel.

Kind of doubt that those bars of steel can stop the penning of a 122mm, if that would be the case you just fill the armour of a tank with bars of steel. And have just thin armour, cause the bars of steel will stop it all.
Edit: the problem is that game does not have the mechanic that can create the complex transfer of kinectic energy that will happen if it hits first a steel bar and how it wil then will transfer to the plate underneath it

[Sinclair]

oops my bad delete this post

[Abist Thuringiensis]

But... The IS-2's armour piercing rounds have 207mm's of armor penetration..

[Adelin]

Hello,

"trolling MODE ON" what i saw was from my tiger H armor view informations:

If you look, the driver bay and coaxial gun has more than 400mm of effective armor, and it decrease immediately once you move your mouse cursor away from the holes.

Maybe the shells read the technical data that say 400mm or more, when it enter the driver bay, and it's like if it couldn't penetrate after all ?
(i dunno about game mechanics)

"trolling MODE OFF"

If i remember how was performing the tiger tanks before the 1.5x patch, maybe the 80mm armor had less bounce mechanic.

I tryed with different guns, 105mm king tiger, is2 shells, elephant, the tiger bounce a lot.
the answer is if you drive in arcade mode:
Drive realistic mode.


Jumbos tanks, and the medium 76 tree, at any distance the tiger H penetrate my americans tanks and one shot them, while i can't penetrate the weak spots, but it's cause i play arcade actually, and i have to get closer of course.

Maybe there is a little armor bug i dunno on both tanks.


I had answers like driver bay and coaxial guns are separated from the driver space other crew members.

So it's not really a weakspot, and coaxial guns are used mainly to kill infantry that you encounter that are really dangerous for your tank if they overrun you.

[MoonPrune]

The armour around the driver's port means that the combined thickness is around 180mm, and even at 5.7 that's an awful lot. Not many tanks have the kind of penetration, and as the mod said aim for the centre of that flat plate as you will major difficulties trying to go through the drivers port.

[Abist Thuringiensis]

Originally posted by MoonPrune:

The armour around the driver's port means that the combined thickness is around 180mm, and even at 5.7 that's an awful lot. Not many tanks have the kind of penetration, and as the mod said aim for the centre of that flat plate as you will major difficulties trying to go through the drivers port.

Even if it has 180mm of armour, if unangled, or slightly angled at close distances IS-2's shells should be able to pen it. What also confuses me, is how the turret seems just godly, since there is no apparent way to pen it frontally.

[Sinclair]

Originally posted by CrazyPoyz:

Originally posted by MoonPrune:

The armour around the driver's port means that the combined thickness is around 180mm, and even at 5.7 that's an awful lot. Not many tanks have the kind of penetration, and as the mod said aim for the centre of that flat plate as you will major difficulties trying to go through the drivers port.

Even if it has 180mm of armour, if unangled, or slightly angled at close distances IS-2's shells should be able to pen it. What also confuses me, is how the turret seems just godly, since there is no apparent way to pen it frontally.

Because the steelbars soak up all the damage, the rest of damage will not be transfered to the plate underneath it.

[Abist Thuringiensis]

Originally posted by Van Sinclair:

Originally posted by CrazyPoyz:

Even if it has 180mm of armour, if unangled, or slightly angled at close distances IS-2's shells should be able to pen it. What also confuses me, is how the turret seems just godly, since there is no apparent way to pen it frontally.

Because the steelbars soak up all the damage, the rest of damage will not be transfered to the plate underneath it.

I'm quite sure physics don't work like that

[Sinclair]

Originally posted by CrazyPoyz:

Originally posted by Van Sinclair:

Because the steelbars soak up all the damage, the rest of damage will not be transfered to the plate underneath it.

I'm quite sure physics don't work like that

I'm talking about how the game works

[die99centapp]

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[MoonPrune]

Originally posted by CrazyPoyz:

Originally posted by Van Sinclair:

Because the steelbars soak up all the damage, the rest of damage will not be transfered to the plate underneath it.

I'm quite sure physics don't work like that

A lot of things don't work the way they should in WT - lots of Russian stuff has unnecessary buffs and oddities, as well as unrealistic flight models or armour strenghths.

[Abist Thuringiensis]

Originally posted by MoonPrune:

Originally posted by CrazyPoyz:

I'm quite sure physics don't work like that

A lot of things don't work the way they should in WT - lots of Russian stuff has unnecessary buffs and oddities, as well as unrealistic flight models or armour strenghths.

I know it perfectly, but this metal-bars thingy is just retarded