Remove T34s until you have fixed them.

[OberBefahlKampfParrot`4f]

Im so tired of having sniper fights with t34s with marder, panzer f2 etc. and at time lose. T34s should lose to these tank on long ranges, but not in this game....

[Kay]

Well, if you're fighting T34s you're uptiering yourself massively, they're 6.7 heavy tanks so of course PzIV F2s aren't going to do much to them.

If they were fighting tanks of around equal BR, say the T-34, they just need to hit them in decent conditions to win (if they're facing you, hitting the hull is usually enough, any turret hit will cripple/kill them etc.)

[FOTW! ⁧⁧Bunkeris]

Originally posted by Ki'agh:

Well, if you're fighting T34s you're uptiering yourself massively, they're 6.7 heavy tanks so of course PzIV F2s aren't going to do much to them.

If they were fighting tanks of around equal BR, say the T-34, they just need to hit them in decent conditions to win (if they're facing you, hitting the hull is usually enough, any turret hit will cripple/kill them etc.)

Indeed, the American heavy tank T34 is a really big uptier for Marders and Panzer IV F2's, lol
But to kill the Soviet medium tank T-34, hit either the turret face (ESPECIALLY that easy to pen extended "box" under the gun barrel), or, if its not angled, the front of the hull
Remember to angle your own tank, or wait for them to get closer, since most War Thunder players are massively impatient
Viel Glück, Panzerkommandant!

[Blegh]

Originally posted by Ki'agh:

Well, if you're fighting T34s you're uptiering yourself massively, they're 6.7 heavy tanks so of course PzIV F2s aren't going to do much to them.

If they were fighting tanks of around equal BR, say the T-34, they just need to hit them in decent conditions to win (if they're facing you, hitting the hull is usually enough, any turret hit will cripple/kill them etc.)

I think he means T-34, and just forgot the hyphen

[RustyNail]

Originally posted by bwcamp:

I think he means T-34, and just forgot the hyphen

Agree. "T34" would make no sense/not fit the context of the OP's remarks. The OP may not even know the difference, or know that there's another, very different tank, that uses the designation he used.

[OberBefahlKampfParrot`4f]

Originally posted by RustyNail:

Originally posted by bwcamp:

I think he means T-34, and just forgot the hyphen

Agree. "T34" would make no sense/not fit the context of the OP's remarks. The OP may not even know the difference, or know that there's another, very different tank, that uses the designation he used.

Hahahahha, ofcourse I know what a american T34 solid shot mess is.

Any reasonable minded person would know I was talking of the soviet biased t34 line up.

[Bolts]

They were manageable until volumetric shells turned their turrets into a force field. If your shell touches two pieces of armor, it has to pen the equivalent of both. The russian turrets tend to be rendered with multiple entities overlaid to create one. It just so happens that the new updated made shells bigger and thus more likely to hit multiple pieces of armor. And it just so happens that most nations armor is rendered as one entity and not several.

[Strelokest]

This dude is in one of the best seal clubber tanks (Panzer 4 F2) and is complaining about T-34s...

You have the best gun on an actual tank in your BR. If T-34s are beating you consistently, you are just bad.

[RustyNail]

Originally posted by Bolts:

They were manageable until volumetric shells turned their turrets into a force field. If your shell touches two pieces of armor, it has to pen the equivalent of both. The russian turrets tend to be rendered with multiple entities overlaid to create one. It just so happens that the new updated made shells bigger and thus more likely to hit multiple pieces of armor. And it just so happens that most nations armor is rendered as one entity and not several.

Drachinifel has a video up on Youtube documenting the development of naval shells that talks about a lot of the subtle issues that dramatically affect a shell's performance against armor. I realize that tanks are not ships; but the development &evolution of armor piercing ammunition would follow the same principles.


I never realized just how complex the engineering and material science issues are that affect the performance of various types of armor piercing rounds.

[Lavrentiy Beria]

Originally posted by OberBefahlKampfParrot`4f:

T34s should lose to these tank on long ranges, but not in this game....

[OberBefahlKampfParrot`4f]

Originally posted by Strelokest:

This dude is in one of the best seal clubber tanks (Panzer 4 F2) and is complaining about T-34s...

You have the best gun on an actual tank in your BR. If T-34s are beating you consistently, you are just bad.

Yea, and its just the t-34s im struggling, says alot doesnt it? They just ricochet everything, and they are so derpy.

[OberBefahlKampfParrot`4f]

Originally posted by Bolts:

They were manageable until volumetric shells turned their turrets into a force field. If your shell touches two pieces of armor, it has to pen the equivalent of both. The russian turrets tend to be rendered with multiple entities overlaid to create one. It just so happens that the new updated made shells bigger and thus more likely to hit multiple pieces of armor. And it just so happens that most nations armor is rendered as one entity and not several.

Exactly, some one who is realizing the problem at hand.

[Maxwell]

Nothing is wrong with the T-34, you can kill them almost as easily as you could before, I know that damn right because I'm clubbing them just as I did before volumetric, your problem is clearly between the chair and the keyboard

[OberBefahlKampfParrot`4f]

Originally posted by Muhammad the tomboy lover:

Nothing is wrong with the T-34, you can kill them almost as easily as you could before, I know that damn right because I'm clubbing them just as I did before volumetric, your problem is clearly between the chair and the keyboard

alright then mr pr0, would be nice if everyone had your game sense.

[Kay]

Originally posted by bwcamp:

I think he means T-34, and just forgot the hyphen

almost certainly, it's just a pet peeve of mine

[DancingDeviljho]

Dude most of the t-34 have 45mm hull armor. you can one shot them from a mile away. the ♥♥♥♥ you mean too strong for long range battles? and to put it worst they don't have especially good guns so they gotta aim for precise weakpoints, especially in 5.3 where they face against tiger and panthers were their frontal armor is pretty much invulnerable. but if you mean the 4.0 T-34s then yeah hull armor is a bit more tricky still his turret is pretty easily pierced.