How the hell is the iranian F14 only 12.3

[TomToma]

Like its better than all the other versions of the F14 and it has access to the missiles that the mig 29 has

[Schublade]

It has the RWR of an F-4.

[Golden Knight]

Originally posted by Schublade:

It has the RWR of an F-4.

fly high lock radar shoot kill go back or die either you have 2 kills +profit

[TomToma]

Originally posted by Schublade:

It has the RWR of an F-4.

My mig23 has a 4 directional lock warning, great comparison.

[BlackWolf9988]

its extremly under tiered with its missile even getting a buff for no reason like 2 weeks ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzjD1JThnUE

[BlackWolf9988]

Originally posted by Schublade:

It has the RWR of an F-4.

literally does not matter unless you play sim.

[Schublade]

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

Originally posted by Schublade:

It has the RWR of an F-4.

literally does not matter unless you play sim.

It does, Iranian has 1st gen RWR and is at 12.3- THE SAME as Early f-14A. But the American have 2nd gen RWR and the f-14B is 12.7.

How do you suppose F-14A with old RWR fare against 13.7 uptier where everyone has better missiles etc.

Do you even have one F-14? You are afraid of Fakour? In that case you deserve none.

[BlackWolf9988]

Originally posted by Schublade:

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

literally does not matter unless you play sim.

It does, Iranian has 1st gen RWR and is at 12.3- THE SAME as Early f-14A. But the American have 2nd gen RWR and the f-14B is 12.7.

How do you suppose F-14A with old RWR fare against 13.7 uptier where everyone has better missiles etc.

Do you even have one F-14? You are afraid of Fakour? In that case you deserve none.

so putting it into a BR where it can fight radarless planes which only have IR missiles is better? id rather only one plane suffers in a ♥♥♥♥ BR than every plane that has to fight the iranian F14 in an uptier. it should be atleast 12.7 or 13.0 change my mind.

notching doesnt work against its missiles and i died to proximity damage from the missile before when flying as slow as 30 meters. its busted.

[Venom]

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

Originally posted by Schublade:

It does, Iranian has 1st gen RWR and is at 12.3- THE SAME as Early f-14A. But the American have 2nd gen RWR and the f-14B is 12.7.

How do you suppose F-14A with old RWR fare against 13.7 uptier where everyone has better missiles etc.

Do you even have one F-14? You are afraid of Fakour? In that case you deserve none.

so putting it into a BR where it can fight radarless planes which only have IR missiles is better? id rather only one plane suffers in a ♥♥♥♥ BR than every plane that has to fight the iranian F14 in an uptier. it should be atleast 12.7 or 13.0 change my mind.

notching doesnt work against its missiles and i died to proximity damage from the missile before when flying as slow as 30 meters. its busted.

Pheonix and Fakur missiles are not a problem to avoid. The whole secret is in the early reaction to the racket, and this is where many players make a mistake. The rockets fly at a high speed that the plane itself transmits to them, so you only need to react in time, do noch + chaff and the rocket will not hit the target in most cases. I almost never die on aim-54 and Fakur. Many players start doing countermaneuvers and countermeasures very late and that is the main problem. Furthermore, these missiles are almost useless for close combat compared to modern Fox 3 missiles that have aircraft at higher levels that are significantly better. Also, planes are much more powerful at higher levels. The problem arose in two things, the first was that Gaijin put the F-14 in the event and on the market, thanks to which there are a lot of them, and the second was that Gaijin had to select the modern Fox 3 exclusively among themselves during decompression, i.e. e.g. BR 14.7. In that case, the F-14 could be e.g. on BR 13.3, thanks to which aircraft from BR 12.0 would not be able to meet the F-14, but at the same time the F-14 would not be able to meet the top tier aircraft with the modern Fox 3. At 13.0, the aircraft that are there now, Mig 29, F 16, Harier, etc. which would not have Fox 3 rockets and would remain with the same equipment as before. These aircraft have sufficiently good flight characteristics, performance and armament as R-73, R-27ER, etc. which would be sufficient to fight the F-14 where an aircraft such as e.g. F-16 is relatively easy to avoid with Fakur or aim-54. Otherwise, the F-14 would get some heavier supers, which would have an easier fight and a lower BR than 11.3, 11.7, 12.0, the F-14 would not be able to meet. Problem solved.

[TomToma]

Originally posted by Venom:

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

so putting it into a BR where it can fight radarless planes which only have IR missiles is better? id rather only one plane suffers in a ♥♥♥♥ BR than every plane that has to fight the iranian F14 in an uptier. it should be atleast 12.7 or 13.0 change my mind.

notching doesnt work against its missiles and i died to proximity damage from the missile before when flying as slow as 30 meters. its busted.

Pheonix and Fakur missiles are not a problem to avoid. The whole secret is in the early reaction to the racket, and this is where many players make a mistake. The rockets fly at a high speed that the plane itself transmits to them, so you only need to react in time, do noch + chaff and the rocket will not hit the target in most cases. I almost never die on aim-54 and Fakur. Many players start doing countermaneuvers and countermeasures very late and that is the main problem. Furthermore, these missiles are almost useless for close combat compared to modern Fox 3 missiles that have aircraft at higher levels that are significantly better. Also, planes are much more powerful at higher levels. The problem arose in two things, the first was that Gaijin put the F-14 in the event and on the market, thanks to which there are a lot of them, and the second was that Gaijin had to select the modern Fox 3 exclusively among themselves during decompression, i.e. e.g. BR 14.7. In that case, the F-14 could be e.g. on BR 13.3, thanks to which aircraft from BR 12.0 would not be able to meet the F-14, but at the same time the F-14 would not be able to meet the top tier aircraft with the modern Fox 3. At 13.0, the aircraft that are there now, Mig 29, F 16, Harier, etc. which would not have Fox 3 rockets and would remain with the same equipment as before. These aircraft have sufficiently good flight characteristics, performance and armament as R-73, R-27ER, etc. which would be sufficient to fight the F-14 where an aircraft such as e.g. F-16 is relatively easy to avoid with Fakur or aim-54. Otherwise, the F-14 would get some heavier supers, which would have an easier fight and a lower BR than 11.3, 11.7, 12.0, the F-14 would not be able to meet. Problem solved.

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. I can show you clips where immediately start notching when I get my RWR warning in my Mig23, Mig27. But its not enough. There is no way to dodge those missiles, because the RWR sucks, so you just die because they are too fast. God forbid if you have a 70 dollar swedish prem, where you are fighting F14s with no RWR. And many other planes. OF course its easy to dodge them in an F16 or any other 4th gen fighter. I am talking about planes that shouldn't meet the F14, thats why it should be moved up. The plane is overperforming. Its literally like the A10C right now.