F117

[mokka]

what you think of it?

[mokka]

引用自 Toblm：

引用自 mokka：

dont understand, why would you watch with your eyes in sim battles. the same with air rb. you only have vision to other enemys because your teammates are in near of them, so if they spot one, it shows up for you too.

Not sure what there is to misunderstand.
Radar stealth isnt effective when your opponent is already in visual range.
WT maps are already visual range.

that problem i already posted as a discussion. the maps are kinda small + too many players. 32 Players at Top Tier doesnt make sence

[Toblm]

引用自 mokka：

引用自 Toblm：

Not sure what there is to misunderstand.
Radar stealth isnt effective when your opponent is already in visual range.
WT maps are already visual range.

that problem i already posted as a discussion. the maps are kinda small + too many players. 32 Players at Top Tier doesnt make sence

Different discussion entirely.
The fact remains the F-117 is ill-suited for Warthunder. If what Warthunder is changes, that is the time to discuss the addition of the F-117. But for now, its not a good candidate for addition.

[mokka]

引用自 Toblm：

引用自 mokka：

that problem i already posted as a discussion. the maps are kinda small + too many players. 32 Players at Top Tier doesnt make sence

Different discussion entirely.
The fact remains the F-117 is ill-suited for Warthunder. If what Warthunder is changes, that is the time to discuss the addition of the F-117. But for now, its not a good candidate for addition.

many "useless" vehicles are in warthunder, they just added them anyway. so why not? why should it be worse than any other?

[Gold Merchant Lev]

only war thunder players would whine about getting additional new vehicles. I think its cool to get them and see the model in game.

[Toblm]

引用自 mokka：

引用自 Toblm：

Different discussion entirely.
The fact remains the F-117 is ill-suited for Warthunder. If what Warthunder is changes, that is the time to discuss the addition of the F-117. But for now, its not a good candidate for addition.

many "useless" vehicles are in warthunder, they just added them anyway. so why not? why should it be worse than any other?

Because its ♥♥♥♥ useless compared to the other aircraft at the BR it would need to be at for its only defining characteristic to be useful.

It has poor AtG capabilities for its BR range and no AtA capabilities.

[KBW]

if anything it will be added as a silly event vehicle because it only has 2 bombs, but its a cool and historically significant vehicle and will be used to test stealth mechanics before they add f-22's and j-20's and such to the game, potentially even radar absorbent camo nets for russian mbt's

[SirLlamaGeddon]

Why keep adding vehicles if there's 0 point in researching them because of how the gamemodes are???

[mokka]

引用自 KBW：

if anything it will be added as a silly event vehicle because it only has 2 bombs, but its a cool and historically significant vehicle and will be used to test stealth mechanics before they add f-22's and j-20's and such to the game, potentially even radar absorbent camo nets for russian mbt's

thats what i tried to say.

[Qu Rahn]

I'd rather see it as a TT vehicle. As for stealth, well, imo it would only really be "useful" for EC maps when going for corner bases. The arena maps we usually would do it no good. It would render its stealth impaired -- and don't we have planes with optical trackers with 20+ km range already in the game? It's also subsonic, it carries no AA ordnance, it has no radar to detect other aircraft (and using it would reveal you anyways).
I dunno, it's a cool vehicle but it looks to me as if it would be a pain to balance and play.

[mokka]

引用自 >|UN|< Sir Llama Geddon：

Why keep adding vehicles if there's 0 point in researching them because of how the gamemodes are???

well, at least the f16c and IRAF F-14 are already here :)

[Agnus_SatchelGuy]

Just need one guy with 2k resolution or more to spot your dot at 15km.
No need for radars, just fly over the bases and wait for enemy f117.

Maybe in sim it will be a beast, but low bomb load it will suck a lot

[mokka]

引用自 Agnus：

Just need one guy with 2k resolution or more to spot your dot at 15km.
No need for radars, just fly over the bases and wait for enemy f117.

Maybe in sim it will be a beast, but low bomb load it will suck a lot

good event vehicle then

[Dogman Dorman]

引用自 mokka：

so as we know, the F111F is now in the game. i guess its not that far away from the F117.
the only thing i know if i'm not mistaken, the F117 could only use only 2 guided bombs max?

2x :
-GBU-10 Paveway II laser-guided bomb with 2,000 lb (910 kg) Mk84 blast/fragmentation or BLU-109 or BLU-116 Penetrator warhead
-GBU-12 Paveway II laser-guided bomb with 500 lb (230 kg) Mk82 blast/fragmentation warhead
-GBU-27 Paveway III laser-guided bomb with 2,000 lb (910 kg) Mk84 blast-fragmentation or BLU-109 or BLU-116 Penetrator warhead
-GBU-31 JDAM INS/GPS guided munition with 2,000 lb (910 kg) Mk84 blast-frag or BLU-109 Penetrator warhead

-Wiki
could be a good event vehicle i guess? Br 11.7

Oh there are some more things you are forgetting about F-117 like it was slow as ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and could not even hit Mach 1 so it really relied on its steath but at least you didnt say something stupid like "what missles is it going to carry" since a lot of people actually think it was a fighter jet cause of the F but that was done to throw off any other country peeping in on what we were doing.

[Dogman Dorman]

引用自 mokka：

so as we know, the F111F is now in the game. i guess its not that far away from the F117.
the only thing i know if i'm not mistaken, the F117 could only use only 2 guided bombs max?

2x :
-GBU-10 Paveway II laser-guided bomb with 2,000 lb (910 kg) Mk84 blast/fragmentation or BLU-109 or BLU-116 Penetrator warhead
-GBU-12 Paveway II laser-guided bomb with 500 lb (230 kg) Mk82 blast/fragmentation warhead
-GBU-27 Paveway III laser-guided bomb with 2,000 lb (910 kg) Mk84 blast-fragmentation or BLU-109 or BLU-116 Penetrator warhead
-GBU-31 JDAM INS/GPS guided munition with 2,000 lb (910 kg) Mk84 blast-frag or BLU-109 Penetrator warhead

-Wiki
could be a good event vehicle i guess? Br 11.7

Another thing steath would be useless in WT cause the maps are way to small and 90% or more of the battles are within visual range and if and when your F-117 was sighted you would be a dead man and nothing you could do about it since the F-117 was slow as can be and didnt carry an flares or chaff and also had zero air to air capabilities. The F117 is a really stupid plane to have in this game and I am sure Gaijin knows this. Stealth is ill suited for WT. Just use your head.

[mokka]

引用自 Dogman Dorman：

引用自 mokka：

so as we know, the F111F is now in the game. i guess its not that far away from the F117.
the only thing i know if i'm not mistaken, the F117 could only use only 2 guided bombs max?

2x :
-GBU-10 Paveway II laser-guided bomb with 2,000 lb (910 kg) Mk84 blast/fragmentation or BLU-109 or BLU-116 Penetrator warhead
-GBU-12 Paveway II laser-guided bomb with 500 lb (230 kg) Mk82 blast/fragmentation warhead
-GBU-27 Paveway III laser-guided bomb with 2,000 lb (910 kg) Mk84 blast-fragmentation or BLU-109 or BLU-116 Penetrator warhead
-GBU-31 JDAM INS/GPS guided munition with 2,000 lb (910 kg) Mk84 blast-frag or BLU-109 Penetrator warhead

-Wiki
could be a good event vehicle i guess? Br 11.7

Another thing steath would be useless in WT cause the maps are way to small and 90% or more of the battles are within visual range and if and when your F-117 was sighted you would be a dead man and nothing you could do about it since the F-117 was slow as can be and didnt carry an flares or chaff and also had zero air to air capabilities. The F117 is a really stupid plane to have in this game and I am sure Gaijin knows this. Stealth is ill suited for WT. Just use your head.

good even vehicle