why the heck is the Object 292 at 10.3???

[Pecktackular9000]

The Object 292 in the Russian tech tree has an APFSDS round that has 695mm of pen, which makes it the best APFSDS round in the game. It also boasts good armor and an autoloader. ALL MBT's its BR (10.3), struggle to pen the vehicle, especially since its autoloader almost never creates spall when hit.

I feel like this (and the 2S38, which has barely entered service IRL) being at 10.3 is overpowered, and could (probably should) be considered Russian bias.

[Pec]

(1) Its not like the regular t80s / t90s struggle to pen since most other vehicles are cardboard the main draw of the 292 is the post pen damage.
(2) You cant quite hold w as much since the reload isnt great
(3) You dont have a thermal
(4) No machine guns (Tiny con but im being thorough)

Its a strong vehicle though i still have more success with the t90s

[Bucher]

It dies pretty easily to the 105mm and 120mm around it in BR, all the usual spots work to kill it. The only thing it has over others is roof survivability against TOW2B with its 500000m forehead counterweight eating those for lunch. The gun is good but takes 10 seconds to reload when everything around it can get off 1.5-2.5 shots in that time.

Could it go up? Sure. Does it need to? Depends on if Gaijin wants to expand the BRs more, 10.0 - 11.7 covers basically 30+ years of tank design featuring late model T-72s and 1 off tech demos from this decade. Most of which can all deal with each other. But I an understand getting 9.3 away from the hell that is max uptiers.

[Atomicdeath]

It's a paper tiger. Yes, It has a big ass gun with a great dart round and a GREAT bonk HE round BUT it has a 10 second reload, no smoke no machine guns and no thermal.

I love my 292 but it's not that good.

Since you bring up the 2S38, it's not that great either, it's a huge tank that can't look down so it has to expose itself quite a bit to shoot at anything. I use it mostly as an AA and keep the bmp2m for light tank duties. You tubers make these tanks look far better than what they actually are.

[VVaЯF0xу]

Publicado originalmente por Pecktackular9000:

The Object 292 in the Russian tech tree has an APFSDS round that has 695mm of pen, which makes it the best APFSDS round in the game. It also boasts good armor and an autoloader. ALL MBT's its BR (10.3), struggle to pen the vehicle, especially since its autoloader almost never creates spall when hit.

I feel like this (and the 2S38, which has barely entered service IRL) being at 10.3 is overpowered, and could (probably should) be considered Russian bias.

You forgot some points.

1. Its autoloader is not modeled as module, so can't be damaged. Unlike other modern MBTs.
2. Nuclear HEs
3. Relatively good mobility.

It can easily stand against 11.7 MBTs and in fact one of most toxic tanks in the game.

[JuX]

Ah yes, the tank Stryker can't kill with it's M900 shell if it hides it's chassis. That turret shatters these shells even on broadside hits, so if positioned correctly it's just unkillable.

[LUKA]

Yes, It's ruSSian bias without a question, but what were u expecting from gaijin?

[BlackWolf9988]

10.0 and 10.3 is the most BS OP line up russia has. are you really surprised?

[SheetznGiggles]

Because, Profit. Comrade.

[FireFromBehind]

Becuse the 292 isn't a gppd tank?

It has a good cannon and that is it.

Lacks mobility, armor, reload time and survivability

[bunny]

and the M1 Abrams is stuck at 10.3 with it's 360mm APFSDS xD

[Venom]

Publicado originalmente por FireFromBehind:

Becuse the 292 isn't a gppd tank?

It has a good cannon and that is it.

Lacks mobility, armor, reload time and survivability

I don't know how long you've been playing WT, but I'll tell you a secret, the absolute coolest things in this game are the power of the cannon and armor, especially at high BRs. You can't get anywhere near that with a thermal or a machine gun. And the mobility, you were probably joking, right? I know it's a T-80 chassis, does that sound like a bad mobile to you? :) Also armor, on its BR it can bounce off a lot, it can even eat projectiles from the side and nothing will happen to it. So the arguments that there is no machine gun, thermal, etc. they are not at all key as some players try to argue. If you have played top tier, you know very well that most of the battles are simply based on the contact of the first shot, and if you do not overpower the vehicle, or seriously damage it so that it cannot shoot, which often happens with 292, he will send you with his cannon into space with one shot and that it's absolutely cool, not some machine gun and the like. And charging is really good for that canon btw. 10 seconds is not much. In truth, in most cases against this tank you only have one shot, and if you screw up, you won't get another chance. It is simply a counter-tip that Gaijin pulled out and put on the meaningless BR to strengthen Russia.

[firebat47]

Publicado originalmente por Pecktackular9000:

The Object 292 in the Russian tech tree has an APFSDS round that has 695mm of pen, which makes it the best APFSDS round in the game. It also boasts good armor and an autoloader. ALL MBT's its BR (10.3), struggle to pen the vehicle, especially since its autoloader almost never creates spall when hit.

I feel like this (and the 2S38, which has barely entered service IRL) being at 10.3 is overpowered, and could (probably should) be considered Russian bias.

Because it was doing really well at 10.0, so the moved it to 10.3.

[83athom]

1. The armor is raw steel instead of composites with ERA so isn't as good against chemical munitions as you'd otherwise think.

2. It really lacks mobility and will struggle to respond to western MBTs repositioning around it.

3. No thermals means that tanks with ESS and Thermals (like the Abrams) can just blind it then have free reign on shooting it.

[VVaЯF0xу]

Publicado originalmente por 83athom:

1. The armor is raw steel instead of composites with ERA so isn't as good against chemical munitions as you'd otherwise think.

2. It really lacks mobility and will struggle to respond to western MBTs repositioning around it.

3. No thermals means that tanks with ESS and Thermals (like the Abrams) can just blind it then have free reign on shooting it.

1. Nobody use chemicals on 10.0+. Russian MBTs have one of best protection in frontal aspect. Lack of ERA is insignificant.

2. Yes, Russian MBTs losing in mobility to western tanks, but still, 292's T-80 chassis have good mobillity in compatison to later russian tanks.

3. Thermals is overrated. Its a glorified photo filter. At 10.3 almost nobody have good one, therefore players mostly dont use them. Funny, but one tank that popular and uses good thermals is TURMS, another tank in USSR lineup.

[Chaoslord 87]

Publicado originalmente por firebat47:

Because it was doing really well at 10.0, so the moved it to 10.3.

Object 279 (or Bias/Cheat 279 as I call it) is also doing well but is still 9.0.