Should I buy A-10A pack at the upcoming sale?

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

I fly all jets almost exclusively in air sim (enduring confrontation), am interested in all activities that bring reward there; not only base bombing, for which the Brrrt is suited less than F-105D I believe, but also capping zones, intercepting AI attackers, bombers and reckon planes, fighting other players and ground pounding, the latter seems to be a good opportunity for this AGM-65B, GBU-8 and GAU-8/A (as well as two AIM-9L for self-defence, if I manage to identify a foe without a radar, with which my allies operating A-10 orSu-25 had difficulties, resulting in friendly fire he-he) carrier.

However, I already can unlock rank VII of USAF (F-86F-2, F-100D, F3H-2, FJ-4B VMF-232 plus a spaded A-4E early allow for that), and I don't really need anything but F-4E Phantom II (can also carry 6xAGM-65B+2xGBU-8, in addition to radar and 4xAIM-9J+4xAIM-7E for interceptor duty, and can also be turned into effective supersonic bomber unlike A-10, at the same 10.7), F-111A (if that thing is worth it, not sure how bad it is with big bomb load when wings can't fold, but at least the appearance is cool) and probably A-10A late (in the absence of the premium one, that also would require acquisition of A-4B and AV-8C, both seem pretty boring to me tbh).

Is the money worth spending in my described case (Maybe the aircraft is good and fun in ground sim, which I play sometimes at WWII ranks? Ain't going to bring anything that flies in ground RB anymore except for Battle Pass tasks and challenges), or better buy a talisman for F-100D or F-105D and concentrate on rapid base bombing and interception to grind the Phantom and Aardvark?

[BlackWolf9988]

I think if it comes to a pure tree grinder then bombing with the F4S is probably the best plane since it is supersonic and has a good good radar/RWR compared to something like a mig 23.

A10 is in a good spot in ground sim and doesnt really have many great counters except some russian SPAA. Usually good players sit like 5 km in the air or on the edge of the a hill and maverik spam. However from my experience NATO 10 BR ground sim win rates are pretty awful due to bad players.

I have both around a 2 kd on my T90A and leo 2a4 but the win rate sits at around 60% for russian and 30% for NATO teams.

Personally im thinking about buying the A10 early just for sim since it seems like a fun plane.

[Paradoxicc70]

A-10A was an absolute waste of money,

Air RB you're flying at 300mph. On bigger maps... by the time you get there you could've bought the f-5 premium instead & played three matches.

On Ground RB the AGM-65's are underpowered due to the lack luster imaging system on the jet. it's an airborne xm-1 essentially plus the ridiculous AA that Russia has.

F4S is also ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ now because you're going against Fox3's & Gaijin being gaijin saw the playerbase fleeing from both jets & raised up the F-5's BR so it's fighting Mig-23's & 29's 85% of the time.

Do not buy any premium Top tier USA jets atm.

[KalleKantola]

The major issue with the A-10 in other modes is that its slow. Incredibly slow. Even in SIM where getting intercepted on the way to the bases isnt really an issue, you are still effectively locked into only ground pounding. Basically everything can outrun you, including AI.

For the positives, you have good RWR and plenty of countermeasures. You're not unkillable by any measure, but you're much harder to point and click from 2km away. In addition, anything that doesnt run but tries turnfighting will quickly have 30mm holes in it.

9.7-10.7 is also way more favorable for the A-10 than the F-4S' bracket, though even then the F-4S has an easier time engaging air targets.

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

I think if it comes to a pure tree grinder then bombing with the F4S is probably the best plane since it is supersonic and has a good good radar/RWR compared to something like a mig 23.

A10 is in a good spot in ground sim and doesnt really have many great counters except some russian SPAA. Usually good players sit like 5 km in the air or on the edge of the a hill and maverik spam. However from my experience NATO 10 BR ground sim win rates are pretty awful due to bad players.

I have both around a 2 kd on my T90A and leo 2a4 but the win rate sits at around 60% for russian and 30% for NATO teams.

Personally im thinking about buying the A10 early just for sim since it seems like a fun plane.

The idea is, vehicle columns that spawn from time to time have been an eyesore to me for too long. Their full destruction bleeds noticeable amout of enemy tickets, as I understood while testing Grand Canyon map in custom battles with RB settings, and saves tickets for your team, but I've never seen anyone actually wipe one out entirely, the SPAAs there are too accurate in a radius of 3 kilometers. I tried AGM-62 Walleyes on Afganistan my beloved, scored several successful hits (M42 Duster, two M113 personnel carriers and one M3 Bradley were gone), but was dissatisfied with the entire procedure of climbing, trying to find the targets via optics without thermals, identify the right ones (better start from SPAAs, others don't shoot back and can be dealt with with rockets, bombs and cannons later), lock onto them and not just ground, and then you drop a bomb while guessing whether it would undershoot, overshoot (as you chose wrong diving angle and speed so it can't glide in a right curve and land on the target) or hit, remembering you can't lock on and then approach the target again from different angle, the lock will just wear off...

TV-guided missiles just happen to be way much better in terms of aiming in modes without markers, my main hope in doing what others can't do (eliminating those pesky columns), and dealing with static targets even better (SPAAs there also seem to have become much more precise than what they used to be, all those SIDAM 25, Gepards, ZSU-37-2 etc., I used to deal with them, tanks and light vehicles they guarded with FAB-500 and cannons in my Su-7BMK, but when I tried spading squadron Sea Harrier in September, SIDAMs just wouldn't let me approach them even once, my ally in AV-8B (NA) was forced to use JDAMs from safe distance). Therefore, I do need those Mavericks, and the question is, will A-10A be worth the buy, or it is better to patiently grind to F-4E and become a bane to AI-controlled ground that, if it could hear us, wouldn't hear us before it was blown up (─‿‿─)

P.S. You mentioned NATO team has much worse winrate in 10_2 (the only lineup A-10A is present in) compared to Soviet-Chinese team, is it also true for 9_2? I aim to purchase T-55AM-1 and hope to utilize high winrate percentage for faster grinding of Soviet ground ranks VI and VII

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

I think if it comes to a pure tree grinder then bombing with the F4S is probably the best plane since it is supersonic and has a good good radar/RWR compared to something like a mig 23.

Originally posted by KalleKantola:

9.7-10.7 is also way more favorable for the A-10 than the F-4S' bracket, though even then the F-4S has an easier time engaging air targets.

Well I don't want to get F-4S, F-4E would be sufficient for my playstyle, that premium is just too expensive and was introduced for people to grind rank VIII without the penalty. I don't want to play rank VIII at all, but kinda will have to, as I have Tornado IDS MFG (although it should be rank VII with its br) and Mirage 2000C-S4. Nevertheless, in USAF case, I'm not interested in any gen 4 aircraft they currently have, having intentionally skipped the Persian Tomcat event (still, grateful for the chance to check how Phoenixes work in the test flight), so why overpay?

[slavic doggo]

i fly the a-10a late (so non premium but the same) and in sim its amazing, if you wana ground pound and only ground pound with ocasional base bombing. its not for fighting as others have said but if an enemy tries to take you down while ground pounding hes an easy kill thanks to the aim 9l, and a ♥♥♥♥ ton of flares. but thats for sim in air RB its decent at best

[ospholis]

you're delusional if you wanna take it only for air battles

[RedBoy]

A-10A is a good plane and you can still frag out with it if you learn how to fly it.
The problem is you will be often in situations where the battle ends before you reach it.

Also you can't really use it for ground pounding anymore to reliably farm, you have to stick to air to air with it and it's a bit tricky.

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

No way :C

Well, looks like I'm having a vacation from air SB till New Year. Sad, hoped I would grind a couple rank VII American jets before new in-game sales with this premium vic.

[BlackWolf9988]

Originally posted by АГЕНТ КАЛИТКИ:

No way :C

Well, looks like I'm having a vacation from air SB till New Year. Sad, hoped I would grind a couple rank VII American jets before new in-game sales with this premium vic.

F4S is on sale right now and pretty good for sim from what i can tell. You get enough to bomb two bases + enough AA missiles to fight multiple air targets.

I do agree i was thinking about either buying the a10 or the german mig21 but both arent on sale which is a shame.

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

Originally posted by АГЕНТ КАЛИТКИ:

No way :C

Well, looks like I'm having a vacation from air SB till New Year. Sad, hoped I would grind a couple rank VII American jets before new in-game sales with this premium vic.

F4S is on sale right now and pretty good for sim from what i can tell. You get enough to bomb two bases + enough AA missiles to fight multiple air targets.

I do agree i was thinking about either buying the a10 or the german mig21 but both arent on sale which is a shame.

I need Mavericks and/or GBU-8...and lower br is also highly appreciated.
And I have no need to overpay for the ability to grind rank VIII without a penalty, the only interesting plane coming there in the nearest future is F-15E, and it's in the bombers line, I can research it while spading both Aardvarks (however, test flight showed F-111A is pretty silly when the wings can't fold because of the bomb pylons, so slow and can't really climb well to attack airfields).

[Eldgrim - Cole 505]

No its a waste.