Object 279 or IS-7?

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Which one is your favorite and why?

Mine is IS-7 for the autoloader and better armor

[Kotory]

what part of is7 armour is better?
- Hull armour is +/- equal on both
- Turret armour of 279 is 1.5 times better than is7. It is similar to T64 armour.

On top of that 279 has
- 1.4 sec faster reload with much bigger first stage stowage
- stabilized gun, which alone gives it upper hand in comparison with is7

279 is better pick. No contest here.

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Originally posted by Kotory:

what part of is7 armour is better?
- Hull armour is +/- equal on both
- Turret armour of 279 is 1.5 times better than is7. It is similar to T64 armour.

On top of that 279 has
- 1.4 sec faster reload with much bigger first stage stowage
- stabilized gun, which alone gives it upper hand in comparison with is7

279 is better pick. No contest here.

The IS-7 has most definitely better turret armor on top of better made hull armor (you can't randomly set it on fire).
As for the reload, the IS-7 has an autoloader, which is amazing for a gun that big.

My opinion. I prefer autoloader to stabilizer

[Kotory]

Originally posted by Unstoppable Juggernaut:

Originally posted by Kotory:

what part of is7 armour is better?
- Hull armour is +/- equal on both
- Turret armour of 279 is 1.5 times better than is7. It is similar to T64 armour.

On top of that 279 has
- 1.4 sec faster reload with much bigger first stage stowage
- stabilized gun, which alone gives it upper hand in comparison with is7

279 is better pick. No contest here.

The IS-7 has most definitely better turret armor on top of better made hull armor (you can't randomly set it on fire).
As for the reload, the IS-7 has an autoloader, which is amazing for a gun that big.

My opinion. I prefer autoloader to stabilizer

You definitely has no clue what u are talking about.

- 279 turret has 400-500 mm of armour in most parts of front. Is7 has around 300 in turret cheeks. 500 is clearly more than 300
- hull is +/- the same. There is no meaningful differences
- 15% faster fire rate + stabiliser vs. nothing.

I struggle to see what is better in is7 apart from 1 extra crew?

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Originally posted by Kotory:

You definitely has no clue what u are talking about.

- 279 turret has 400-500 mm of armour in most parts of front. Is7 has around 300 in turret cheeks. 500 is clearly more than 300
- hull is +/- the same. There is no meaningful differences
- 15% faster fire rate + stabiliser vs. nothing.

I struggle to see what is better in is7 apart from 1 extra crew?

Yeah totally man, I am lvl 100 and have most rare tanks of this game but I have no clue what I'm saying. If you're just going to go ad hominem and insult me just for having a different opinion than yours (typical noliferlivinginparentsbasement behavior), just close the window. Your opinions aren't facts, and facts aren't opinions.

Funny that just when you said this, a friend of mine playing the Object got destroyed by... a Gepard which shot its turret ring. Ammorack exploded. This just can't happen to an IS-7.

The Object 279 has "more" obvious weakspots than the IS-7. It's considered OP just because it's new and most people have no clue where to shoot it at.

[Kotory]

Originally posted by Unstoppable Juggernaut:

Originally posted by Kotory:

You definitely has no clue what u are talking about.

- 279 turret has 400-500 mm of armour in most parts of front. Is7 has around 300 in turret cheeks. 500 is clearly more than 300
- hull is +/- the same. There is no meaningful differences
- 15% faster fire rate + stabiliser vs. nothing.

I struggle to see what is better in is7 apart from 1 extra crew?

Yeah totally man, I am lvl 100 and have most rare tanks of this game but I have no clue what I'm saying. If you're just going to go ad hominem and insult me just for having a different opinion than yours (typical noliferlivinginparentsbasement behavior), just close the window. Your opinions aren't facts, and facts aren't opinions.

Funny that just when you said this, a friend of mine playing the Object got destroyed by... a Gepard which shot its turret ring. Ammorack exploded. This just can't happen to an IS-7.

The Object 279 has "more" obvious weakspots than the IS-7. It's considered OP just because it's new and most people have no clue where to shoot it at.

Dude. Nobody cares about your lvl. If you are saying bullcrap - it is bullcrap despite of your lvl or amount of hours in game.

Go in hangar. Pick let's say leo A1A1 with his DM23 shell and check yourself.
IS7 turret is like butter against it as well as hull.
279 turret can't be penned by it at all apart from weakspots - MG port or turret ring etc.

[Kotory]

279 "weakspots" are mostly irrelevant, cuz it fights against APFSDS / HEAT 95% of the time and they do not care about your "weak spots" cuz your entire hull is one big weak spot for them.
And in case of IS7 it is even worse, cuz it has less armour

[Empees0]

I got both of them and I have to say that the IS-7 is better.

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Originally posted by Empees0:

I got both of them and I have to say that the IS-7 is better.

Agreed! Even its speed is amazing for a tank that heavy

[Kotory]

Originally posted by Empees0:

I got both of them and I have to say that the IS-7 is better.

i strongly doubt that your whole 6 games in 279 with 1k\d ratio are trustworthy argument in this comparison.
The only real advantage is7 has is 5 crew instead 4. Everything else is either on par with 279 or worse.

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Originally posted by Kotory:

Originally posted by Empees0:

I got both of them and I have to say that the IS-7 is better.

i strongly doubt that your whole 6 games in 279 with 1k\d ratio are trustworthy argument in this comparison.
The only real advantage is7 has is 5 crew instead 4. Everything else is either on par with 279 or worse.

So now you're going to question anyone's opinion which is contrary to yours? Using false claims?

The Object 279 has a rather large turret wing through which it can get one shot pretty easily, the IS-7 does not.
The Object 279 has one grotesque weakspot near its gun mantlet through which you can also get a one shot, the IS-7 does not (it is significantly smaller)
The Object 279 has one less crew member (at least you got that)
The Object 279 has a bit less frontal armor than the IS-7 (want me to take a screenshot or what?)...

On the other hand, the Object seems slightly more "mobile" and indeed has a stabilized gun... While the IS-7 has an auto-loader.

At best you can objectively say they both are equivalent to each other. Now, it's a matter of opinion whether one prefers to play the Obj or the IS.

[Kotory]

Originally posted by Unstoppable Juggernaut:

Originally posted by Kotory:

i strongly doubt that your whole 6 games in 279 with 1k\d ratio are trustworthy argument in this comparison.
The only real advantage is7 has is 5 crew instead 4. Everything else is either on par with 279 or worse.

So now you're going to question anyone's opinion which is contrary to yours? Using false claims?

The Object 279 has a rather large turret wing through which it can get one shot pretty easily, the IS-7 does not.
The Object 279 has one grotesque weakspot near its gun mantlet through which you can also get a one shot, the IS-7 does not (it is significantly smaller)
The Object 279 has one less crew member (at least you got that)
The Object 279 has a bit less frontal armor than the IS-7 (want me to take a screenshot or what?)...

On the other hand, the Object seems slightly more "mobile" and indeed has a stabilized gun... While the IS-7 has an auto-loader.

At best you can objectively say they both are equivalent to each other. Now, it's a matter of opinion whether one prefers to play the Obj or the IS.

No. I'm going to question those who has no experience with the vehicle to speak about.

- yes it has the turret ring and MG port weak spot (although MG port can be covered with turret angling). IS7 has entire turret face as weak spot. Guess what is worse?
- it DOESN'T have less frontal armour. It just has different layout. weaker area around driver view port but with much stronger hull cheeks and LFP for 279 vs stronger driver port area, weaker hull cheeks and extremely weak LFP for is7.

And this DOESN'T MATTER cuz they both have hull which can be penned like butter

What DOES matter
1 - stabilizer
2 - faster reload
3 - much stronger turret, which is capable to stop even apfsds and heat shells
4 - also gun depression is noticeably better 3 vs 5

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Originally posted by Kotory:

No. I'm going to question those who has no experience with the vehicle to speak about.

- yes it has the turret ring and MG port weak spot (although MG port can be covered with turret angling). IS7 has entire turret face as weak spot. Guess what is worse?
- it DOESN'T have less frontal armour. It just has different layout. weaker area around driver view port but with much stronger hull cheeks and LFP for 279 vs stronger driver port area, weaker hull cheeks and extremely weak LFP for is7.

And this DOESN'T MATTER cuz they both have hull which can be penned like butter

What DOES matter
1 - stabilizer
2 - faster reload
3 - much stronger turret.
4 - also gun depression is noticeably better 3 vs 5

So having a different playstyle and opposing opinion means having no experience... Okay, interesting.

- Entire turret face as weakspot? Are you joking? Should I be taking a screenshot everytime I one shot an Object through its turret weakspot?
- It does. You're using your opinion as a fact as to what matters and what does not so let me do the same: nobody cares about side armor, you're not even supposed to be showing it anyway with this tank because it's not meant to be angled.

"faster reload"? Are you joking here again? The IS-7 wins on that matter because it has an autoloader which the Object doesn't have

In other words:

1 - Okay, but the IS-7 has the autoloader which is a different yet another noticeable advantage
2 - No, read above
3 - No
4 - Okay, so what? That doesn't make much of a difference.

It is legit for people to prefer the IS-7. Not saying the contrary isn't however. It's just a matter of preferences.

[Kotory]

Originally posted by Unstoppable Juggernaut:

Originally posted by Kotory:

No. I'm going to question those who has no experience with the vehicle to speak about.

- yes it has the turret ring and MG port weak spot (although MG port can be covered with turret angling). IS7 has entire turret face as weak spot. Guess what is worse?
- it DOESN'T have less frontal armour. It just has different layout. weaker area around driver view port but with much stronger hull cheeks and LFP for 279 vs stronger driver port area, weaker hull cheeks and extremely weak LFP for is7.

And this DOESN'T MATTER cuz they both have hull which can be penned like butter

What DOES matter
1 - stabilizer
2 - faster reload
3 - much stronger turret.
4 - also gun depression is noticeably better 3 vs 5

So having a different playstyle and opposing opinion means having no experience... Okay, interesting.

- Entire turret face as weakspot? Are you joking? Should I be taking a screenshot everytime I one shot an Object through its turret weakspot?
- It does. You're using your opinion as a fact as to what matters and what does not so let me do the same: nobody cares about side armor, you're not even supposed to be showing it anyway with this tank because it's not meant to be angled.

"faster reload"? Are you joking here again? The IS-7 wins on that matter because it has an autoloader which the Object doesn't have

In other words:

1 - Okay, but the IS-7 has the autoloader which is a different yet another noticeable advantage
2 - No, read above
3 - No
4 - Okay, so what? That doesn't make much of a difference.

It is legit for people to prefer the IS-7. Not saying the contrary isn't however. It's just a matter of preferences.

No. Having 6 games in vehicle is called "having no expirience"
How many games do u have in 279?

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Originally posted by Kotory:

No. Having 6 games in vehicle is called "having no expirience"
How many games do u have in 279?

So you are so out of arguments that you're not even trying anymore (if it's considered a "try" to consider your opinion as a fact while basing it on false conclusions) and are just carrying on trying to discredit anyone you're talking to?

It just takes anyone to face the Object 279 and the IS-7 with the same gun and analyze its armor in hangar to see that half of what you're saying is bs.

[Kay]

Object 279 also has a semi-autoloader, same as the IS-7, just has better armour and a stabiliser

edit: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2066144214

It has a larger storage for the semi-autoloader too