Why so much bad reviews and hate?

[Tankaxe]

Well here i am seeing the reviews for game and %90 of it was thumbs down and negative reviews. But most of them were outdated mainly complaining about the patch 1.37 (its 1.41 now). The issue is it might discourage alot of people just reading that and pearsonly i find this game fun (No i dont play "easy mode russians" i play as all the countrys but my highest one is the US of A). Now of course some one would disagree with me so im just gonna ask this what do you hate this game now BESIDES THE PROGRESION SYSTEM. Talking about gameplay wise what do you dislike about the ingame gamplay. (sorry if you see any Grammar mistakes.)

[UncleTimsTruck]

I really like the new progression system versus 1.35 and earlier but about the only thing I actually don't like in the game is anything and everything Russian and having to see some of these clown's asinine looking skins.

[BrigadierBill]

There are 5 reasons people complain about this game most frequently:
1.) Few people liked 1.37 because it was too different (not to mention matchmaking was heavily-expanded, which often sucks for people flying the screwed tiers). Note in particular: tier 4 players complaining about incessant jet battles.
2.) Game has been shifting for the better part of a year from a very economically-friendly system towards one that is grind-heavy. Some changes that are positive are accompanied by poor changes against later players (grinding out aircraft upgrades takes a ton longer than grinding planes themselves).
3.) Bomber spam. 1.37 came with a huge bomber spam...which they fixed. 1.39 came back with invulnerable bomber tails...which they fixed. 1.41 came with playerbase committed to heavy bombing because of various nerfs and buffs (note bomb splash damage nerf and bomber spawn altitude buff), making tier 4 ridiculous. Prior to 1.37, bombers were admittedly useless but fixing the issue has not been Gaijin's great strength.
4.) The game is imbalanced and always has been, but people place that on deliberate actions rather than poor balancing (aka Russian bias, anti-German bias).
5.) Bad design decisions such as automated battle-ratings. This in turn affects the opinions of those finding the 5.3 BR of a FW 190 A-5/U2 being ridiculously high, or the P-47 D-28 being ridiculously low. In general people consider Germany and Japan overtiered, versus Russia and America undertiered.

I generally like the game and would probably still give it a positive review, but after a year being in I've seen a lot of really stupid changes that have been coming in recently and some less-recently that haven't been fixed in a long time. I actually hated the economic changes in 1.29 (they added half of the component research there, other than a few examples like bombs and engine upgrades) despite the positive changes of that patch, and the problem for me isn't the time to grind new aircraft anymore but to grind though ones I already own.
Also note that the game has screwed over several tier spots I liked playing in, such as jumping all of my old favorite British planes up a ton in the tier system (some were clearly overpowered but they went overboard on some like the Boomerang and forgot others like the gift Typhoon Ib), or screwing over my old favorite German lineups (again, they were OP but now are overtiered too much).
Finally, the game has had a constant issue of being too slow to fix flight and damage models and too fast to add new ones, and adding too many German and Russian planes versus too few US/UK and particularly too few Japanese ones. For instance, the Mosquito should be one of the fastest prop aircraft in the game but is at best a mediocre heavy fighter, no better than the Beaufighters that precede it (which is garbage for spending all that time unlocking them, getting worse repair costs, and slower grind of upgrades). Also, the P-47's should generally be tougher aircraft (they're undertiered but that doesn't fix the fact that the flying tank is actually pretty easy to shoot down, and I can easily point to the La-5's DM as what the P-47 should look more like). And of course, the devs seem to hate Italy since what should be great planes (CR.42, MC.200, MC.202) perform like total garbage or when they don't, their .50's can't inflict any damage whatsoever. Now the Breda-Safat .50 was the worst .50 cal of WWII, but they still shot aircraft down with them and I can't kill a biplane with one after shredding people in all sorts of other German, British, and Russian tier 1 fighters.

/endsteadilyexpandingrant

[StarBurger]

Originally posted by BrigadierBill:

There are 5 reasons people complain about this game most frequently:
1.) Few people liked 1.37 because it was too different (not to mention matchmaking was heavily-expanded, which often sucks for people flying the screwed tiers). Note in particular: tier 4 players complaining about incessant jet battles.
2.) Game has been shifting for the better part of a year from a very economically-friendly system towards one that is grind-heavy. Some changes that are positive are accompanied by poor changes against later players (grinding out aircraft upgrades takes a ton longer than grinding planes themselves).
3.) Bomber spam. 1.37 came with a huge bomber spam...which they fixed. 1.39 came back with invulnerable bomber tails...which they fixed. 1.41 came with playerbase committed to heavy bombing because of various nerfs and buffs (note bomb splash damage nerf and bomber spawn altitude buff), making tier 4 ridiculous. Prior to 1.37, bombers were admittedly useless but fixing the issue has not been Gaijin's great strength.
4.) The game is imbalanced and always has been, but people place that on deliberate actions rather than poor balancing (aka Russian bias, anti-German bias).
5.) Bad design decisions such as automated battle-ratings. This in turn affects the opinions of those finding the 5.3 BR of a FW 190 A-5/U2 being ridiculously high, or the P-47 D-28 being ridiculously low. In general people consider Germany and Japan overtiered, versus Russia and America undertiered.

I generally like the game and would probably still give it a positive review, but after a year being in I've seen a lot of really stupid changes that have been coming in recently and some less-recently that haven't been fixed in a long time. I actually hated the economic changes in 1.29 (they added half of the component research there, other than a few examples like bombs and engine upgrades) despite the positive changes of that patch, and the problem for me isn't the time to grind new aircraft anymore but to grind though ones I already own.
Also note that the game has screwed over several tier spots I liked playing in, such as jumping all of my old favorite British planes up a ton in the tier system (some were clearly overpowered but they went overboard on some like the Boomerang and forgot others like the gift Typhoon Ib), or screwing over my old favorite German lineups (again, they were OP but now are overtiered too much).
Finally, the game has had a constant issue of being too slow to fix flight and damage models and too fast to add new ones, and adding too many German and Russian planes versus too few US/UK and particularly too few Japanese ones. For instance, the Mosquito should be one of the fastest prop aircraft in the game but is at best a mediocre heavy fighter, no better than the Beaufighters that precede it (which is garbage for spending all that time unlocking them, getting worse repair costs, and slower grind of upgrades). Also, the P-47's should generally be tougher aircraft (they're undertiered but that doesn't fix the fact that the flying tank is actually pretty easy to shoot down, and I can easily point to the La-5's DM as what the P-47 should look more like). And of course, the devs seem to hate Italy since what should be great planes (CR.42, MC.200, MC.202) perform like total garbage or when they don't, their .50's can't inflict any damage whatsoever. Now the Breda-Safat .50 was the worst .50 cal of WWII, but they still shot aircraft down with them and I can't kill a biplane with one after shredding people in all sorts of other German, British, and Russian tier 1 fighters.

/endsteadilyexpandingrant

Good explanation! thanks!

[Vuyek]

I gotta say bomber spam is OK for me - I fly P47 with API-T in arcade and it is a bomber turkey shoot at 4k metres, one after the other like ducks in a row.

[BrigadierBill]

Originally posted by timorekusa:

I gotta say bomber spam is OK for me - I fly P47 with API-T in arcade and it is a bomber turkey shoot at 4k metres, one after the other like ducks in a row.

Maybe until the Yer-2 and B-17 come out... :S

The problem there isn't that the bombers are that much better than everything else, but that there are that many people flying them, and that the bombloads are a lot stronger for the bases having the same health.

[Zero Signal]

Another problem is that they are neglecting the hell out of flight and now the same with tank due to their ninja Playstation Port...Kudos to them for getting Sony to allow a PS game to communicate with another platform.. Do I need to even mention the stupid Bombers Can Win a Battle maps? Yea allow the bombers to destroy ground targets..thats cool..but take away this stupid thing where they can win by destroying the airfield.. Too bad they won't...this is an arena fighter..could have been so much more.

[Vuyek]

Keep in mind that most players are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about arcade mode. the herp-a-derp with limited physics gameplay mode.

There is also RB (realistic battles) and SB (simulated i.e. only cockpit view with full physics and aircraft performance... if a plane pulled to the left at startup historically by golly your plane will do same in WT and you need to correct with rudder as you start).

[Tankaxe]

Originally posted by timorekusa:

Keep in mind that most players are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about arcade mode. the herp-a-derp with limited physics gameplay mode.

There is also RB (realistic battles) and SB (simulated i.e. only cockpit view with full physics and aircraft performance... if a plane pulled to the left at startup historically by golly your plane will do same in WT and you need to correct with rudder as you start).

Ah yes thats why in the forums when ever someone posts a complaint its automaticly invalid and really what can you expect its arcade its more for herp-a-derping and having fun than actual Grinding like RB or SB but some people still perfer to grind in AB i respect that but its not a wise choice

[BrigadierBill]

Technically aircraft do perform differently in arcade and are limited as they were realistically, but stuff like ripping wings off, flat spins, stalls, and engine failure from holding WEP too long don't happen. Of course, some aircraft that gain their speed from WEP are screwed in arcade since it cancels out constantly.

[Baging Rabies]

Russians were buffed in this horrible "patch", anything that wasn't Russian was nerfed all the way to the North Pole, A new historically inaccurate and stupid map was added to the map randomizer, M2 .50's machineguns were nerfed heavily, "progression" system was changed very badly, the matchmaker now allows even more seal-clubbing, Golden Eagles lost a lot of value, and Gaijin was only caring about money with this scratch...er I mean patch.

[magvera bushmaster]

let me explain why

1-trolls and hackers

2-no help for the skilless team

3-4 planes are chasing to kill 1 plane

4-rammers

5-p2w

hope this will help

[Bogey]

Butthurt people write bad reviews, those who are happy with the game usually don't write any reviews at all ...

[Gamer]

Originally posted by p47:

let me explain why

1-trolls and hackers

2-no help for the skilless team

3-4 planes are chasing to kill 1 plane

4-rammers

5-p2w

hope this will help

What a necro.

Look at the dates before you post.

[📈Business Woof📈]

this game sucks ass much and should get banned from the internet.

[magvera bushmaster]

Originally posted by Lord Gaben:

Originally posted by p47:

let me explain why

1-trolls and hackers

2-no help for the skilless team

3-4 planes are chasing to kill 1 plane

4-rammers

5-p2w

hope this will help

What a necro.

Look at the dates before you post.

>old thread

no care