Ground simulator battles best premium MBT for 10_2/11_2?

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

After playing a bit with T-55AM-1 at 9_2, I realized I need a true modern MBT (which is much faster and has access to thermals, and also has a badass appearance, good frontal armour is also welcomed) to fully feel the tank combat part of the game, but neither GAB nor GBR are comfortable for me anymore starting from rank II, only GSB.

I'm considering one of the four variants to have fun with and grind both ground vehicles and helicopters tech-trees of the respective nations:

T-80U-E1
+The most brutal appearance and cool-sounding gas turbine
+Can grind Mi-28 and Ka-52, lots of cool light tanks, ATGM carriers, SPAAs including the infamous OP Strela
+Patriotism!
-No discount this year
-Gun depression of -5 degrees, sad for many maps
-11_2 (Stronger opponents)

M1 KVT
+10_2 (turret cheeks must be strong in the hull down position)
+Can grind AH-1W for the same lineup and AH-1Z with strong anti-air capabities for 11_2, also SPAAs, Starship and light tanks
+Good mobility
-The gun is just 105mm (not serious for a modern MBT)
-Overhyped irl!

Leopard 2A4 (PzBtl 123) for 10_2 OR Leopard 2A4M CAN for 11_2
+The most canon family of MBTs imo, must provide the most authentic MBT experience (big, boxy, armored, fast, tank-hunting: the Tiger I of the 1980s - 2020s)
+Lots of cool ground stuff to grind with either of them
-The first is 10_2, but I don't like that older turret design; the latter has the awesome triangular turret, but is 11_2
-I'm not sure if PARS 3 LR on EC-665 Tiger UHT are practically multi-purpose (can down helicopters and even jets, not only blow up tanks), which is important for me to grind the German heli TT at all, and without that helicopter, I'd have more use of Soviet ones

ZTZ96A (P) OR Al-Khalid, 10_2 both
+Appearance is that of Soviet-made MBTs if USSR hadn't been destroyed
+Are probably strong
+Most Chinese helicopters have access to TY-90 for anti-CAS role, and Z-10 is a Jack of all trades with access to AKD-10
-I don't need any other Chinese ground vehicles, except for WZ305 (maybe) and their light tanks from the first line (Type 63, Type 62, ZTS63 and M41D).

Which one would you recommend the most?

[BlackWolf9988]

for 10 BR probably al khalid or leo 2a4. NATO teams are bad in sim at 10 BR though. i have a similarly good KD with my T-90A (1.76 KD) and the Leo 2A4 (1.61 KD) but my winrate is at 70% for soviets and only around 45% for germany.

i would avoid top tier sim since the CAS on both sides is insane. legit had more than half of my team die by two israeli blackhawks spaming their spike missiles in the first 2 min before even reaching the first cap.

9 BR is the best BR for ground sim, 10 is fun but NATO helis/jets dominate if they actually decide to take them. top tier is just unplayable.

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

for 10 BR probably al khalid or leo 2a4. NATO teams are bad in sim at 10 BR though. i have a similarly good KD with my T-90A (1.76 KD) and the Leo 2A4 (1.61 KD) but my winrate is at 70% for soviets and only around 45% for germany.

i would avoid top tier sim since the CAS on both sides is insane. legit had more than half of my team die by two israeli blackhawks spaming their spike missiles in the first 2 min before even reaching the first cap.

9 BR is the best BR for ground sim, 10 is fun but NATO helis/jets dominate if they actually decide to take them. top tier is just unplayable.

Oh, I see. Sounds fair enough. I hate the toxicity level of GRB CAS much more than difficulties associated with searching for and recognizing enemies on a laptop screen, so yeah, I'd better skip 11_2 for now if strikers with guided weaponry are THAT annoying and strong as you described (at least unless I get an OP missile SPAA or heli of my own hehe).

Well, 9_2 seemed balanced to me (and I need to try 8_2 and 8_2_2 as well, haven't played there for ages, i.e. since T32 got moved to rank V from rank IV and Ru251 still was the fastest ground vic in the game), the lineup does have the potential for fun and epic carrying matches, it's just that I'd want to enjoy the game-changing feature called thermals without the need to play GAB or GRB which both are too fast-paced and reaction-based for me starting rank V. In 9_2, only a handful of vics actually have thermals, mostly light tanks (for wheeled ones, it's issues with moving on soft ground and often giant size coupled with non-existent armour) and some early MBTs (AMX-30 Super/B2/BRENUS, M48 Super, Type 74 G), and that is...not what I really expect for a modern warfare, it's rather Cold War era.

May I additionaly ask for more info on ZTZ96A (P) and Al-Khalid, good YouTube guides on the two from some professional RB/SB player maybe, to better understand their differences, strong and weak points? It's now competition between the two and PzBtl 123, guess I'll be grinding USSR TT with T-55AM-1 and 2S38 and just use the already awesome-looking T-80B in 10_2.

[BlackWolf9988]

Originally posted by АГЕНТ КАЛИТКИ:

Originally posted by BlackWolf9988:

for 10 BR probably al khalid or leo 2a4. NATO teams are bad in sim at 10 BR though. i have a similarly good KD with my T-90A (1.76 KD) and the Leo 2A4 (1.61 KD) but my winrate is at 70% for soviets and only around 45% for germany.

i would avoid top tier sim since the CAS on both sides is insane. legit had more than half of my team die by two israeli blackhawks spaming their spike missiles in the first 2 min before even reaching the first cap.

9 BR is the best BR for ground sim, 10 is fun but NATO helis/jets dominate if they actually decide to take them. top tier is just unplayable.

Oh, I see. Sounds fair enough. I hate the toxicity level of GRB CAS much more than difficulties associated with searching for and recognizing enemies on a laptop screen, so yeah, I'd better skip 11_2 for now if strikers with guided weaponry are THAT annoying and strong as you described (at least unless I get an OP missile SPAA or heli of my own hehe).

Well, 9_2 seemed balanced to me (and I need to try 8_2 and 8_2_2 as well, haven't played there for ages, i.e. since T32 got moved to rank V from rank IV and Ru251 still was the fastest ground vic in the game), the lineup does have the potential for fun and epic carrying matches, it's just that I'd want to enjoy the game-changing feature called thermals without the need to play GAB or GRB which both are too fast-paced and reaction-based for me starting rank V. In 9_2, only a handful of vics actually have thermals, mostly light tanks (for wheeled ones, it's issues with moving on soft ground and often giant size coupled with non-existent armour) and some early MBTs (AMX-30 Super/B2/BRENUS, M48 Super, Type 74 G), and that is...not what I really expect for a modern warfare, it's rather Cold War era.

May I additionaly ask for more info on ZTZ96A (P) and Al-Khalid, good YouTube guides on the two from some professional RB/SB player maybe, to better understand their differences, strong and weak points? It's now competition between the two and PzBtl 123, guess I'll be grinding USSR TT with T-55AM-1 and 2S38 and just use the already awesome-looking T-80B in 10_2.

i usually just watch justinplays, he talks about each vic he plays a little bit at the beginning of the video and how they perform.

i cant comment on the tank personally because i dont china, but the al khalid plays similar to like a T-90A but with slightly worse armor (bigger lower front plate). in exchange it gets better gun depression and actual good reverse speed which is nice,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGfcRekyOxY

[Tankoslav Tepyatdesyatpyatovich]

Okay, I'll check out this guy's content. Thanks a lot for your response!