War Thunder

War Thunder

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Noodles Nov 29, 2024 @ 5:38pm
Just starting out
Game is great but absolutely brutal for new players, besides the tutorial the learning curve is insane. On top of that you come up against guys level 100 farming people like me who cant even drive straight in realistic battles (tried arcade didn't like how you were always marked and the 'aim assist' on where to shoot)

Really struggling to deal with T34's and KV-1s at the moment, a few others but these two i'm not sure i ever drop. I've been using Germany as my nation with the following vehicles:

SD.KFZ, Pz.IVH, Pz.IVJ, Marder 3 and Ostwind.

Any tips?
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just drive the t34 and kv1 and learn from that instead as it is more lenient. panzers are really stronk guns but weak armor. americans are kind of the jack of all trades.
OkIES Nov 29, 2024 @ 6:01pm 
Real tip here, It is honestly to keep pushing/punishing yourself (If you keep playing realistic battles, which is the way to play) Learning the maps will take time. I suggest since you are playing tanks to inspect the tanks armour and fire different rounds at the tanks in the tier you are playing so you can see the pen zones and where you will maximise damage .

If you find yourself up against a tank thats higher tier then you, aim for its barrel to knock it out then take it track out next. Move to a side shot and get the kill.

Everything else will come with time played and the struggle :)

Keep with the game, dont listen to the scrubs that say its P2W because its not, Prem tanks give no advantage, only more money and exp earned. So pay to progress faster.

Enjoy and try new things!
Jaes Nov 29, 2024 @ 6:15pm 
Two most important things to learn: The Maps, and understanding that your tank is not a "Tank." Virtually everything you run into will have an anti-tank capability and you need to navigate a given map with that in mind.

The next important thing is using the appropriate ammunition. The vehicles you noted should have no problems dealing with any model of T-34 and is more than capable of punching through the weakspots of KV-1s with their default round, the PzGr 39, an APCBC round, which is the Panzer IV's best round (the best round for most WWII era German vehicles is their default round).

If you're using something like the PzGR 40, an APCR round and mistaking it for "good" because it has a higher penetration value, you need to know what the values of the tank rounds mean. Penetration value is not everything. An APCR round is a very small round that's intended to have a high velocity to punch into thicker armor. Major trade offs are it does not cause a lot of spall damage, it will bounce off armor that is not flat (lots of Soviet tank designs have curves on them), and you need to know where to send that round in order to knock out an enemy tank. The PzGr is not useless, but it's very niche in application.

The PzGr 39 on the other hand is the best round because it has an explosive filler, "APCBC" means it will normalize into curved and sloped armor (making such armor less effective), and you don't need a pin point shot placement with it to do damage. It will cause damage to the opposing vehicle if you penetrate the armor, unlike the APCR round, thanks to its explosive filler.

Spend some time in "Protection Analysis" to study the weakpoints on vehicles you're having trouble defeating. You can go the tech tree the vehicle resides in, select the vehicle, hit "preview" then select the "Armor" tab. You see an option for "Protection Analysis" that will let you select what vehicle you want to simulate shooting rounds at the vehicle you want to know more about. X-Ray mode is also very helpful for knowing where the crew and ammo sits on an opposing vehicle so you know the best spots to penetrate to kill it.

War Thunder rewards knowledge. While holding W and shooting your gun at other armored fighting vehicles is fun, it's important you know where the best places to put your vehicle are on a given map, keep situational awareness, and knowing where to send a round into an enemy tank to kill it quickly will help make the game even more fun.
Your_White_Knight Nov 29, 2024 @ 9:09pm 
Originally posted by NerfedNoodle:
Just starting out

Game is great but absolutely brutal for new players, besides the tutorial the learning curve is insane. On top of that you come up against guys level 100 farming people like me who cant even drive straight in realistic battles (tried arcade didn't like how you were always marked and the 'aim assist' on where to shoot)

Really struggling to deal with T34's and KV-1s at the moment, a few others but these two i'm not sure i ever drop. I've been using Germany as my nation with the following vehicles:

SD.KFZ, Pz.IVH, Pz.IVJ, Marder 3 and Ostwind.

Any tips?

Stop acting like a victim?

Yes this isn't a easy game not every game is, yes there's a learning curve sure maybe a bit more then most

But acting like "everyone else" here is "farming people" isn't true that's just wanting pity

There's always new people starting in a game that's years old, that's just life there's no special treatment for those who didn't find it sooner that wouldn't be fair to those already here

Tips?

Yes, grind, grind, grind and grind more, the more experience you get the more you learn how to use the tanks you get the maps you play and what tank works on what map

Your best advice is actually using that "learning curve" to get better, different tanks for different reasons, the more you build SKILLS the better you are it's not the tanks because tanks don't have skills people do

#1 tip:

Is have fun, if you're not having fun there's nothing that will change to have fun, it's the player not the tank or the map or the game itself... there's no point in any of it if you're not having fun doing it
Last edited by Your_White_Knight; Nov 29, 2024 @ 9:10pm
mogami_99 Nov 29, 2024 @ 9:16pm 
Stay low tier. Train your crew slots. (You do not train vehicles you train slots that you then qualify vehicles into.) The crew skill you earn low tier stay with the slots for all time.
This being the case look at your tree and see how many lines there are and make a slot for each line so as you replace a vehicle with a new one it moves into the slot vacated.
For example slot 1 light tank, slot 2 medium tank slot 3 heavy tank slot 4 SPAA slot 5 TD/SPG Slot 6 aircraft.
However before moving new vehicles into slots make sure you can move enough vehicles to keep the lineup the same tier/BR
Last edited by mogami_99; Nov 29, 2024 @ 9:19pm
Chaoslink Nov 29, 2024 @ 9:53pm 
You’re playing Germany. Note that you’re currently in the glass cannon tier for Germany, though 3.7 is honestly one of their most fun lineups if you ask me. Play like you can’t take a hit though. Stay back, use your excellent gun performance and just try to stay safe. For KV series tanks, you can often punch through the lower front plate if it isn’t angled, and unlike other tanks, there’s not a big transmission there to eat the shot as it’s in the back of the tank. This shot is almost always a one shot kill. Turrets for most Russian vehicles are trolly, but can be penned. The hull is safer though, if not angled.
Noodles Nov 30, 2024 @ 3:08am 
Originally posted by Chaoslink:
You’re playing Germany. Note that you’re currently in the glass cannon tier for Germany.

For KV series tanks, you can often punch through the lower front plate if it isn’t angled, and unlike other tanks, there’s not a big transmission there to eat the shot.

Great advice, appreciate it.

Originally posted by Jaes:
if you're using something like the PzGR 40, an APCR round and mistaking it for "good" because it has a higher penetration value, you need to know what the values of the tank rounds mean.

This is exactly what I'm doing, would you recommend any youtubers/streamers to follow?

Originally posted by Your_White_Knight:
Originally posted by NerfedNoodle:
Just starting out
Stop acting like a victim?

You've misinterpreted my statement. Easily done over text. I'm not playing the victim. Just stating the game is rough for new players.

Cheers for everyone's advice so far!
Last edited by Noodles; Nov 30, 2024 @ 3:11am
snee.scampers Nov 30, 2024 @ 3:13am 
it is rough, find your niche learn to exploit it and make the most of you're free boosters and maybe find a little fun and pleasure trolling other players.
you will work it out.
Your_White_Knight Nov 30, 2024 @ 8:40am 
Originally posted by NerfedNoodle:
Originally posted by Your_White_Knight:
Stop acting like a victim?

You've misinterpreted my statement. Easily done over text. I'm not playing the victim. Just stating the game is rough for new players.

Cheers for everyone's advice so far!

Sorry that's kind of what it sounded like because we ALL started there, some of us sooner then others, but we ALL start there, there's nobody who hasn't experienced that here

As usual mogami_99 has good advice:

Originally posted by mogami_99:
Stay low tier. Train your crew slots. (You do not train vehicles you train slots that you then qualify vehicles into.) The crew skill you earn low tier stay with the slots for all time.
This being the case look at your tree and see how many lines there are and make a slot for each line so as you replace a vehicle with a new one it moves into the slot vacated.
For example slot 1 light tank, slot 2 medium tank slot 3 heavy tank slot 4 SPAA slot 5 TD/SPG Slot 6 aircraft.
However before moving new vehicles into slots make sure you can move enough vehicles to keep the lineup the same tier/BR

And that was kind of what I poorly was getting at with "rind, grind, grind and grind more"

Don't take shortcuts to try to race to the top tiers, fill out your crew's EXP levels, get every tank and get it 100% researched and then keep on using it to get enough Silver Lions to get the next tank
Not only will that keep your bank full for repair and other needs but that time in that tank will help you learn the maps AND that not all tanks are "equal" but what tanks are best for what map and more important WHY

( Since it's Tis' the Season ) Tanks are tools, kind of like skis..... you don't bring cross country skis to a huge hilly place and you don't bring downhill skis to a flat place... some tanks are better on some maps and then worse on other maps

The more experience you get in lower Tiers... the more experience you bring to upper Tiers

The more experience you bring to upper Tiers... the better off against someone who raced up to those Tiers with little to no experience with how tanks work and how maps have advantages and disadvantages ( and where ) the more tools you have against the enemy
SpiralRazor Nov 30, 2024 @ 8:47am 
Originally posted by NerfedNoodle:
Originally posted by Chaoslink:
You’re playing Germany. Note that you’re currently in the glass cannon tier for Germany.

For KV series tanks, you can often punch through the lower front plate if it isn’t angled, and unlike other tanks, there’s not a big transmission there to eat the shot.

Great advice, appreciate it.

Originally posted by Jaes:
if you're using something like the PzGR 40, an APCR round and mistaking it for "good" because it has a higher penetration value, you need to know what the values of the tank rounds mean.

This is exactly what I'm doing, would you recommend any youtubers/streamers to follow?

Originally posted by Your_White_Knight:
Stop acting like a victim?

You've misinterpreted my statement. Easily done over text. I'm not playing the victim. Just stating the game is rough for new players.

Cheers for everyone's advice so far!


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Ason Nov 30, 2024 @ 8:55am 
Play game on SIM mode. Jump straight into the belly of the beast, war is hell.
Marlowe33 Nov 30, 2024 @ 8:59am 
if you feel like punishing yourself try Britain or Israel.
Chaoslink Nov 30, 2024 @ 9:54am 
Originally posted by mogami_99:
Stay low tier. Train your crew slots. (You do not train vehicles you train slots that you then qualify vehicles into.) The crew skill you earn low tier stay with the slots for all time.
This being the case look at your tree and see how many lines there are and make a slot for each line so as you replace a vehicle with a new one it moves into the slot vacated.
For example slot 1 light tank, slot 2 medium tank slot 3 heavy tank slot 4 SPAA slot 5 TD/SPG Slot 6 aircraft.
However before moving new vehicles into slots make sure you can move enough vehicles to keep the lineup the same tier/BR
Definitely would second this too. Don’t just try to fly through the ranks. Don’t immediately equip every new vehicle you unlock. Take things slow, find vehicles you do well in and keep playing those for awhile. The more you rush through and force your BR higher and higher, you’ll just be making it harder to learn everything. I’d recommend keeping yourself at 3.7 for awhile. It’s a good BR where everything is pretty well balanced. Germany has poor armor here, but their guns are among the best. USA has mediocre armor that can be worked with, their guns are just good enough and they have low speed stabilizers that give them the edge in brawls. Russian guns are mediocre but have good penetration against angles and their armor is better than it really should be, but they lack gun depression which makes them a liability in rough terrain. Track one while it’s trying to get over a hill to shoot you and it’s basically helpless.

Seriously though, I’d recommend spending a few weeks at this BR and really learning it before moving on. Come back to it often too, it’s solid gameplay. If by this point you haven’t been using preset lineups, I’d recommend starting to here.
Rommell8 Nov 30, 2024 @ 10:32am 
hehe, i like arcade Tank... in RB i get shot while looking at the pretty landscapes

but, if OP you like RB already? try Naval ;)

its pretty darn fun once you figure a lineup and a comfortable BR to run at / but really you want a rank3 BR lineup to do daily tasks in all genres
Serra Nov 30, 2024 @ 10:37am 
I am level 100, i have countless hours in the game. But the vehicles I love are early/mid ww2, like stuarts t34's etc I am not interested in modern tanks. And it is a problem that I go against new players that don't know what they are doing but I am not going to stop playing the tanks I love.

It's a really hard thing to balance, because if they do a only above lvl 50+ queue there wouldn't probably be enough players to fill lobbies but idk.
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