Is 5.7 - 6.3 broken? German spam

[Caz1402]

Everry match BR Germany wins and stomps enemy. All I see is constant spam of Panthers, Tiger II's that can pen anything. Meanwhile as US no light, medium or heavy tanks can pen them frontally. I have to use a Tank destroyer with no Amour. So they get the big gun and all the armour. It is becoming so annoying some games we are getting spawn camped within 5 mins.

[Dogola]

US teams just got incredible bad, like really awful. I guess most of the better players switched nations. Whenever you get them on your team it is most likely a loss, even with Russia. (Russian teams also got worse with lots of new players without a clue that only read all the postings about Russian bias)

US 76 is a good gun, also you have the M36 which is amazing, the M18 can drive circles around these slow German tanks and beat them to good positions and at 5.7 you always run into them. Instead they charge you head-on like headless chicken. Not even starting with the powerful CAS you have at that BR range with big loadouts.

[Caz1402]

Originally posted by AttackerCat:

Germany 5.7 is good, but the Tiger IIs are 6.7.
You can frontally pen Tigers Is with the 76mm gun on US tanks. You can take turret crew/breeches out on Panthers frontally as well.
You can pen the turret cheeks of Tiger II Ps as it is only 100mm.

If you're going up against heavies in a Sherman frontally, you're playing into their strengths and your weaknesses. Use your speed and stabilizer to get on their sides.

There are also US tanks with punchier guns at 5.7, the M36s (the B gets HEAT also) and the T1E1 90mm are all good options, too.

You have much better than 1 in 16 odds to beat Germany at that battle rating. After a certain amount of matches, the lowest common denominator in all of them is probably the person at the controls. Not trying to just say skill issue because we all have adapted to playstyles between trees and vehicle types.

Tell this to my team though. While I can do some damage and normaly end up top or top 3. In general if you factor out weakspot knowledge and skill. The german heavies trample over everything else. Meaning that overall the german team dies less, kills more and uses less tickets etc.

[Caz1402]

Day 2 It's 3/24 to the Germans.

[Caz1402]

UPDATE:: 3/26

[Shyue Chou]

What is your 5.7 line-up if I may ask?

[Caz1402]

Originally posted by Shyue Chou:

What is your 5.7 line-up if I may ask? :inquisition:

M41A1 (RESEARCHED) - 76 jumbo - M109A1. And im still using the Skink AA as its very good.

[Caz1402]

Update 3/27

[Caz1402]

Just had my best game ever and won against GERMANY. 11 kills over 3k points.

[Cop Unit 12]

Originally posted by Caz1402:

Originally posted by Shyue Chou:

What is your 5.7 line-up if I may ask? :inquisition:

M41A1 (RESEARCHED) - 76 jumbo - M109A1. And im still using the Skink AA as its very good.

The 76 jumbo, M41A1 and M109A1 are not 5.7. You are playing with a 6.3 vehicles.

Regardless the 76 jumbo is overtiered as it's gun is super outmatched and it's armor is a joke when fighting tiger 2's and panthers as panthers can at close range can pen the upper front plate. Since the APDS nerf the M41A1 is very skilled and luck based, the m24 is better at this point according to pros. The M109A1 is a HE lobber. You need to know where to aim to take out vehicles.

DO NOT GET the T25, it's a trap and should be 5.7 after all it's nerfs. The M4 t26 is decent (why it's a higher br over the T1E1 90mm is unknown to me as the T1E1 can bait people while the M4 T26 cant. Their armor levels mean nothing at their br's while having the same gun).

It's best to rush the T26 E5, T34 and ontos (m56 is meh to me) for a 6.7 lineup. The regular T26 has medocre armor for it's br with a worse MG port weakspot then the jumbo (E5 and T34 have the same problem with the mg port but with ok armor). The t26e1-1 (jumbo pershing) has always to me been weaker and worse then the base Pershing due to it's exposed vertical drive and horrible ammo placement behind somewhat thin turret armor that seems to always allow aphe to go through despite being too thick for some aphe rounds.

[Caz1402]

Originally posted by Cop Unit 12:

Originally posted by Caz1402:

M41A1 (RESEARCHED) - 76 jumbo - M109A1. And im still using the Skink AA as its very good.

The 76 jumbo, M41A1 and M109A1 are not 5.7. You are playing with a 6.3 vehicles.

Regardless the 76 jumbo is overtiered as it's gun is super outmatched and it's armor is a joke when fighting tiger 2's and panthers as panthers can at close range can pen the upper front plate. Since the APDS nerf the M41A1 is very skilled and luck based, the m24 is better at this point according to pros. The M109A1 is a HE lobber. You need to know where to aim to take out vehicles.

DO NOT GET the T25, it's a trap and should be 5.7 after all it's nerfs. The M4 t26 is decent (why it's a higher br over the T1E1 90mm is unknown to me as the T1E1 can bait people while the M4 T26 cant. Their armor levels mean nothing at their br's while having the same gun).

Yes.. as I wrote in one of my replies. I went up a teir and its the same thing. I only really use the M41A1 and M109A1 then normaly go to AA. The rest are kinda just back ups for a long game. This set up so far is really good for me. Fin rounds can pen most things maybe not kill but I get alot of assist. And the M10 nukes tanks up close.

[Caz1402]

Update 3/29

[Cop Unit 12]

Originally posted by Caz1402:

Yes.. as I wrote in one of my replies. I went up a teir and its the same thing. I only really use the M41A1 and M109A1 then normaly go to AA. The rest are kinda just back ups for a long game. This set up so far is really good for me. Fin rounds can pen most things maybe not kill but I get alot of assist. And the M10 nukes tanks up close.

Missed the br change.

Fin rounds are APDSFS. Your using APDS which don't have fins.

[A Glass Of Water]

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[Caz1402]

Originally posted by Cop Unit 12:

Originally posted by Caz1402:

Yes.. as I wrote in one of my replies. I went up a teir and its the same thing. I only really use the M41A1 and M109A1 then normaly go to AA. The rest are kinda just back ups for a long game. This set up so far is really good for me. Fin rounds can pen most things maybe not kill but I get alot of assist. And the M10 nukes tanks up close.

Missed the br change.

Fin rounds are APDSFS. Your using APDS which don't have fins.

You right, I got discarding and fin confused.

[Caz1402]

UPDATE: 3/32 Wins to Germany