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What's the deal with T55E1?
Just got this goofy ahh tonk from BP lvl 38 crate (wished for Toldi or Ga-Ka-Chi tbh), is it of any use these days? I imagine it potentially being strong back in the years there were no MBTs and radars in the game, and even more so volumetric shells (and maps actually all had positions and routes for flanking), but today I just don't know if it can do things (performance-wise and fun-wise) the over-BRed M18 can't do.
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Canadian Guitar Nov 20, 2024 @ 7:40am 
I don't see what MBT's have to do with the T55E1's combat effectiveness.

It's an american 76 at a lower BR thats a bit harder to maneuver because wheels. Thats it. It's fine, maybe even a tad better since they had somewhat recently made the steering better
Akagi Nov 20, 2024 @ 7:45am 
You do realise this tank doesn't fight MBTs but T-34s, KV-1s, Avenger and maybe a VK 3002, right?
Toblm Nov 20, 2024 @ 7:47am 
Its a dangerous, fragile speedy boy.

Great flanker. Decent sniper. Solid vehicle with a few glaring weaknesses.
Useful in lineups up into ~6.0. Where the M18 finally out preforms it.

Its likely the better vehicle in that particular pack.
Last edited by Toblm; Nov 20, 2024 @ 7:47am
AttackerCat Nov 20, 2024 @ 7:49am 
Honestly, coolest thing from that BP crate if you didn't have it from previous BP.

Think of it and use it like an American Pak Puma. It can get to good spots early game and with a 76mm gun it will demolish most of what it fights.

Idk why you'd be worried about MBTs and radars, it's a 4.3 tank destroyer. Personally I keep it in my lineups through 6.7, but above that, there's no real use.
I mentioned MBTs and radars as sorts of a timestamp, so that you have an idea how long ago I was playing (and sincerely enjoying in some periods) ground battles.

But if you want to talk about MBTs and radars in essence...

Okay, when M60, M103, Leopard I, Maus, SU-122-54, T-10M (the most badass looking of them all for me), the trio of T-54, Ho-Ri Production and ST-A3 were the top-tier tanks, one could use some light tanks or SPGs like M41, M18 or Super Hellcat in a highest br lineup to troll some of the said tanks and ones that came before them (Tiger II, Jagdtiger, Panther II, ISU-122 and 152, T-44, IS-2 (1944), T95 or Patton series (an option for the Japanese M41)) using flanking, great mobility and shells with high penetration and good ballistics for side and rear armor shooting. Nowadays it's much harder, said vehicles are facing HEAT-FS and ATGM carriers at those brs (for Hellcats one hit equals death due to overpressure), also some light tanks and 1st gen MBTS with thermals (= no hiding in bushes), two-plane stabs (= they don't even need to stop to hit you, unlike you) and even laser rangefinders, with either powerful shells or fast-firing cannons which lack penetration for the late WWII heavies, but it's enough for tanks of the same class; OF-40, Type 87 RCV (P), Marder, XM800T, ZTS63, M41D, Ratel 20 and the likes can spoil all the fun if you want to uptier those fast American (and nowadays not only American, mind ASU-57, ASU-85 or Italians with 90mm cannons too) tanks to the late WWII/early Cold War era. But in 2015, again, T55E1 could have worked well against German heavies on most maps, and all Soviet tanks but post-war IS-series too.

And with the addition of radars for SPAAs, those can now lead aircraft in RB and SB just like in arcade, meaning the behaviour of pilots changes to not fly so recklessly as they got used to (even more so when SPAAs with HE-VT are against them), lightly-armored tanks have more chances to not be killed by unguided rockets, bombs and cannons when they're raiding behind enemy lines, which is of course an advantage as long as you do have friendly SPAAs (otherwise, with greater speed, better bombs and ballistic computers for some, jets are a bigger danger to light vics than piston attackers at tiers 3-4).

Need I tell you the volumetric shells mechanic made it harder to reliably penetrate even side armor of many tanks, thus making spawning in a M18/T55E1 at 7.7+ an even worse idea? :steamhappy:
Canadian Guitar Nov 20, 2024 @ 8:35am 
Originally posted by АГЕНТ КАЛИТКИ:
I mentioned MBTs and radars as sorts of a timestamp, so that you have an idea how long ago I was playing (and sincerely enjoying in some periods) ground battles.

But if you want to talk about MBTs and radars in essence...

Okay, when M60, M103, Leopard I, Maus, SU-122-54, T-10M (the most badass looking of them all for me), the trio of T-54, Ho-Ri Production and ST-A3 were the top-tier tanks, one could use some light tanks or SPGs like M41, M18 or Super Hellcat in a highest br lineup to troll some of the said tanks and ones that came before them (Tiger II, Jagdtiger, Panther II, ISU-122 and 152, T-44, IS-2 (1944), T95 or Patton series (an option for the Japanese M41)) using flanking, great mobility and shells with high penetration and good ballistics for side and rear armor shooting. Nowadays it's much harder, said vehicles are facing HEAT-FS and ATGM carriers at those brs (for Hellcats one hit equals death due to overpressure), also some light tanks and 1st gen MBTS with thermals (= no hiding in bushes), two-plane stabs (= they don't even need to stop to hit you, unlike you) and even laser rangefinders, with either powerful shells or fast-firing cannons which lack penetration for the late WWII heavies, but it's enough for tanks of the same class; OF-40, Type 87 RCV (P), Marder, XM800T, ZTS63, M41D, Ratel 20 and the likes can spoil all the fun if you want to uptier those fast American (and nowadays not only American, mind ASU-57, ASU-85 or Italians with 90mm cannons too) tanks to the late WWII/early Cold War era. But in 2015, again, T55E1 could have worked well against German heavies on most maps, and all Soviet tanks but post-war IS-series too.

And with the addition of radars for SPAAs, those can now lead aircraft in RB and SB just like in arcade, meaning the behaviour of pilots changes to not fly so recklessly as they got used to (even more so when SPAAs with HE-VT are against them), lightly-armored tanks have more chances to not be killed by unguided rockets, bombs and cannons when they're raiding behind enemy lines, which is of course an advantage as long as you do have friendly SPAAs (otherwise, with greater speed, better bombs and ballistic computers for some, jets are a bigger danger to light vics than piston attackers at tiers 3-4).

Need I tell you the volumetric shells mechanic made it harder to reliably penetrate even side armor of many tanks, thus making spawning in a M18/T55E1 at 7.7+ an even worse idea? :steamhappy:

I still don't understand the relevancy of this word salad and the T55E1.

Regardless if you started yesterday or in 2013, it doesn't change how the vehicle plays
Toblm Nov 20, 2024 @ 8:35am 
Originally posted by АГЕНТ КАЛИТКИ:
I mentioned MBTs and radars as sorts of a timestamp, so that you have an idea how long ago I was playing (and sincerely enjoying in some periods) ground battles.

But if you want to talk about MBTs and radars in essence...

Okay, when M60, M103, Leopard I, Maus, SU-122-54, T-10M (the most badass looking of them all for me), the trio of T-54, Ho-Ri Production and ST-A3 were the top-tier tanks, one could use some light tanks or SPGs like M41, M18 or Super Hellcat in a highest br lineup to troll some of the said tanks and ones that came before them (Tiger II, Jagdtiger, Panther II, ISU-122 and 152, T-44, IS-2 (1944), T95 or Patton series (an option for the Japanese M41)) using flanking, great mobility and shells with high penetration and good ballistics for side and rear armor shooting. Nowadays it's much harder, said vehicles are facing HEAT-FS and ATGM carriers at those brs (for Hellcats one hit equals death due to overpressure), also some light tanks and 1st gen MBTS with thermals (= no hiding in bushes), two-plane stabs (= they don't even need to stop to hit you, unlike you) and even laser rangefinders, with either powerful shells or fast-firing cannons which lack penetration for the late WWII heavies, but it's enough for tanks of the same class; OF-40, Type 87 RCV (P), Marder, XM800T, ZTS63, M41D, Ratel 20 and the likes can spoil all the fun if you want to uptier those fast American (and nowadays not only American, mind ASU-57, ASU-85 or Italians with 90mm cannons too) tanks to the late WWII/early Cold War era. But in 2015, again, T55E1 could have worked well against German heavies on most maps, and all Soviet tanks but post-war IS-series too.

And with the addition of radars for SPAAs, those can now lead aircraft in RB and SB just like in arcade, meaning the behaviour of pilots changes to not fly so recklessly as they got used to (even more so when SPAAs with HE-VT are against them), lightly-armored tanks have more chances to not be killed by unguided rockets, bombs and cannons when they're raiding behind enemy lines, which is of course an advantage as long as you do have friendly SPAAs (otherwise, with greater speed, better bombs and ballistic computers for some, jets are a bigger danger to light vics than piston attackers at tiers 3-4).

Need I tell you the volumetric shells mechanic made it harder to reliably penetrate even side armor of many tanks, thus making spawning in a M18/T55E1 at 7.7+ an even worse idea? :steamhappy:
Cleverly used the US 76mm is lethal up into current top tier.

But there are usually better options.
T55E1 advantage is speed and low silhouette, it's still a monster in the right hands but since Gaijin has been removing flanks it's getting harder to skirt enemies
the t55e1 is basically m24/bt5 on steroids, when peeps say no prem is pay2win, not having the option to use it just feels closer to pay2win than not imo
Legion (Banned) Nov 20, 2024 @ 8:57am 
Originally posted by Canadian Guitar:
I still don't understand the relevancy of this word salad and the T55E1.
Its nothing new, he regularly posts walls of text to simple asf questions, he really seems to love the sound of his own voice/opinion and regularly goes off on a completely irrelevant tangents etc...
Last edited by Legion; Nov 20, 2024 @ 9:00am
Originally posted by Legion:
Originally posted by Canadian Guitar:
I still don't understand the relevancy of this word salad and the T55E1.
Its nothing new, he regularly posts walls of text to simple asf questions, he really seems to love the sound of his own voice/opinion and regularly goes off on a completely irrelevant tangents etc...

I visited the most reliable and authoritative source on the Internet (UrbanDictionary) to find out what you two mean when you describe my speeches as 'word salad'. I came to conclusion you either think I'm a programmer, or drunk, or have trouble reading more than one passage at once. The first two points are clearly not true, and the third...not my problem really. Try reading some books to be able to comprehend large amounts of text, idk.
Legion (Banned) Nov 20, 2024 @ 9:46am 
Originally posted by АГЕНТ КАЛИТКИ:
Originally posted by Legion:
Its nothing new, he regularly posts walls of text to simple asf questions, he really seems to love the sound of his own voice/opinion and regularly goes off on a completely irrelevant tangents etc...

I visited the most reliable and authoritative source on the Internet (UrbanDictionary) to find out what you two mean when you describe my speeches as 'word salad'. I came to conclusion you either think I'm a programmer, or drunk, or have trouble reading more than one passage at once. The first two points are clearly not true, and the third...not my problem really. Try reading some books to be able to comprehend large amounts of text, idk.
It's got nothing to do with difficulty of reading lol, it's the fact that you tend to ramble on with completely irrelevant information eg the wall of text you posted above about the T55E1 that has no relevance to what OP posted about....like wtf has Radar guided SPAA's got to do with the topic at hand?!
Canadian Guitar Nov 20, 2024 @ 9:52am 
Originally posted by АГЕНТ КАЛИТКИ:
Originally posted by Legion:
Its nothing new, he regularly posts walls of text to simple asf questions, he really seems to love the sound of his own voice/opinion and regularly goes off on a completely irrelevant tangents etc...

I visited the most reliable and authoritative source on the Internet (UrbanDictionary) to find out what you two mean when you describe my speeches as 'word salad'. I came to conclusion you either think I'm a programmer, or drunk, or have trouble reading more than one passage at once. The first two points are clearly not true, and the third...not my problem really. Try reading some books to be able to comprehend large amounts of text, idk.
Nothing you mentioned had anything to do with the T55E1, it's just a bunch of words, strung together with no real meaning. You're talking about radars and thermals and MBTs.

It's like if people answered your question about the T55E1 by talking about the USS Flagstaff.
Originally posted by Legion:
Originally posted by АГЕНТ КАЛИТКИ:

I visited the most reliable and authoritative source on the Internet (UrbanDictionary) to find out what you two mean when you describe my speeches as 'word salad'. I came to conclusion you either think I'm a programmer, or drunk, or have trouble reading more than one passage at once. The first two points are clearly not true, and the third...not my problem really. Try reading some books to be able to comprehend large amounts of text, idk.
It's got nothing to do with difficulty of reading lol, it's the fact that you tend to ramble on with completely irrelevant information eg the wall of text you posted above about the T55E1 that has no relevance to what OP posted about....like wtf has Radar guided SPAA's got to do with the topic at hand?!

...
Doesn't it bother you that I am the OP, who was asked why MBTs and radars were mentioned in the first place, and who would give an explanation to that? (@_@) I'm reading what people have answered about the T55E1 itself, yes, but for ones who were curious what tier V+ features have to do in the starting post of mine, I gave that 'wall of text' as you disparagingly call it. Looks like you and Canadian Guitar both wanted to rather start a conflict out of the blue than contribute to the discussion.
spartakisteqc Nov 20, 2024 @ 10:41am 
I've never played it, but I've faced it. It's really dangerous. The gun is good and the fact it's wheeled allows it to appear where least expected and catch you unprepared. It has a low silhouette making it hard to see when behind obstacles or bushes.

And it's the embodiement of no armor is best armor. It almost never sets off the fuses of APHEs, so you generally have to switch to HE for the following shot and if the T55 isn't disabled, well you will often die. The ammo is hard to hit from the front as well, however you're very vulnerable from the sides if someone knows where to shoot, but since the vehicle is fairly rare, they usually don't.

So yeah, it seems to be a great vehicle. However, you are massively vulnerable to machine guns due to the ultra thin armor (it might even count as structural steel from memory). So basically, don't get shot at.
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