Russian tanks are way to OP

[G3VEDO-]

My Abrams and Leos die in 1-2 shots, But my T72 Just tanks as many shots as it feels like, Its really annoying how I end up using my 9.3 t72 more in 10.3 than my actual 10.3 vehicles at that br just because The t72 refuses to die.

[FizzyElf]

Автор сообщения: nirvana_sth

in all fairness, i must say playing soviet back in the day was somehow not as enjoyable as it is nowadays.
there was no proper SPAA, we had 2S6 at 11.0 and there was nothing between ZSU-23 and 2S6. Strela, Pantsir and ZSU-23 with missiles are new additions.
people were saying "use BMP-2M or Shturm" for anti air.
we had no proper CAS planes, we used to fly Su-7s with S-24 missiles. unless you played the very top tier... you guys know this all to be true. then we got Su-25s and missile SPAAs and life started getting better.
2S38 and all that is from recent updates.

The BMP-2m was absolutely cracked back then, thank the Snail it's been nerfed, every other IFV also got nerfed though so... it's something at least I guess. Also back then it was Mig 27 spam but with the nice caviate that stuff like the Flakbus could kill them if they could find them where as now the Flakbus (and vehicles like it) is kind of worthless in top tier because most planes are either at the extreme end of it's effective range or they are flying tree top level so you need to be good at guiding the missile to where a plane will pop out of the tree line, otherwise you might as well drive a gepard.

[nirvana_sth]

Автор сообщения: FizzyElf

Автор сообщения: nirvana_sth

in all fairness, i must say playing soviet back in the day was somehow not as enjoyable as it is nowadays.
there was no proper SPAA, we had 2S6 at 11.0 and there was nothing between ZSU-23 and 2S6. Strela, Pantsir and ZSU-23 with missiles are new additions.
people were saying "use BMP-2M or Shturm" for anti air.
we had no proper CAS planes, we used to fly Su-7s with S-24 missiles. unless you played the very top tier... you guys know this all to be true. then we got Su-25s and missile SPAAs and life started getting better.
2S38 and all that is from recent updates.

The BMP-2m was absolutely cracked back then, thank the Snail it's been nerfed, every other IFV also got nerfed though so... it's something at least I guess. Also back then it was Mig 27 spam but with the nice caviate that stuff like the Flakbus could kill them if they could find them where as now the Flakbus (and vehicles like it) is kind of worthless in top tier because most planes are either at the extreme end of it's effective range or they are flying tree top level so you need to be good at guiding the missile to where a plane will pop out of the tree line, otherwise you might as well drive a gepard.

Yeh very true.
I remember when PUMA came out...the forums were full of soviet players complaining! Lol

[Wandering Flare]

Автор сообщения: nirvana_sth

Автор сообщения: FizzyElf

The BMP-2m was absolutely cracked back then, thank the Snail it's been nerfed, every other IFV also got nerfed though so... it's something at least I guess. Also back then it was Mig 27 spam but with the nice caviate that stuff like the Flakbus could kill them if they could find them where as now the Flakbus (and vehicles like it) is kind of worthless in top tier because most planes are either at the extreme end of it's effective range or they are flying tree top level so you need to be good at guiding the missile to where a plane will pop out of the tree line, otherwise you might as well drive a gepard.

Yeh very true.
I remember when PUMA came out...the forums were full of soviet players complaining! Lol

They were full of everyone complaining, mainly because if you were stock this thing was invincible to your HEAT and often to darts too, and it was basically the only tank Germany teams were using.

[FizzyElf]

Автор сообщения: Wandering Flare

Автор сообщения: nirvana_sth

Yeh very true.
I remember when PUMA came out...the forums were full of soviet players complaining! Lol

They were full of everyone complaining, mainly because if you were stock this thing was invincible to your HEAT and often to darts too, and it was basically the only tank Germany teams were using.

And to this day it can still fire without any ammunition, which means ammo racking it (which happens damn near ever time you hit the turret) does nothing. I used to have that bug happen to me constantly when I was spading my PUMA, most annoying thing ever because you couldn't change ammo types or reload at a CAP, frustrated me to no end and obviously made other players mad too.

[nirvana_sth]

Автор сообщения: Wandering Flare

Автор сообщения: nirvana_sth

Yeh very true.
I remember when PUMA came out...the forums were full of soviet players complaining! Lol

They were full of everyone complaining, mainly because if you were stock this thing was invincible to your HEAT and often to darts too, and it was basically the only tank Germany teams were using.

yes, and also the fact that when a new vehicle arrives it takes sometime for people to understand how to counter it and then gaijin starts nerfing it.
then 2S38 came out, and no one plays PUMA these days. i researched it, but did not even spade it. didn't even buy it.

[Your_White_Knight]

Автор сообщения: G3vedo♿

Russian tanks are way to OP

My Abrams and Leos die in 1-2 shots, But my T72 Just tanks as many shots as it feels like, Its really annoying how I end up using my 9.3 t72 more in 10.3 than my actual 10.3 vehicles at that br just because The t72 refuses to die.

Every few days every WWII game ever made has this kind of thread

Especially if the developers lean to realism

It's just how it goes, argue all you want post off topic sites and stats all you want, history shows Russia made some darn good tanks

Yes, yes, I know people like other countries ( for what ever reasons ) and want to make everything "equal"

But they aren't, deal, it's always been a thing it's a thing now and always will be a thing

Next topic please... don't make me tap the sign ( video )

https://youtu.be/pslJWRldiBQ

[DrunkenTee]

Автор сообщения: G3vedo♿

Автор сообщения: PrettyBoy.

You simply don't know how to play around weak spots. Exactly why you shouldn't by ur arse into high tier.

Ah, Yes, around 2kd on every top tier mbt/light tank that I main, Only tank I bought before I gotto the tier it was at was the cv90105, Which I have a 2.4kd with and probably more nukes than you have in all of war thunder in that one tank, But im the one with a skill issue...
I have no problem killing any tank in this game, but for some reason the T series tanks just seems to be really inconsistent and for their weight seem to have a lot more armor than seems reasonable compared to every other tank in the game.

So you have a 2.0 kd on "EVERY" Top Tier MBT and Light Tank you main? Which would those be?

Your 20 deaths, 7 kills ADATS? 0.35kd
Your 173 deaths, 175 kills M1A2 Abrams? 1.01kd
Your 155 deaths, 229 kills SEP? 1.47kd
Your 179 deaths, 171 kills SEP V2? 0.95kd
Your 131 deaths, 136 kills M1A1? 1.03kd
Your 145 deaths, 150 kills HC? 1.03kd
Your 204 deaths, 253 kills M1? 1.24

You seem pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ average to be honest. I don't see any vehicle even close to a 2.0kd in your Toptier lineup.

Also its not hard to perform well in the 90105. Thats like saying you are feeling godly for performing well in the 2S38.

edit: Sorry bro, I forgot your Toptier light vehicle's'.

25 deaths, 19 kills M1128.

[Casual RP'er]

Автор сообщения: Kenlict

Well the game uses the data released by nations. Russia is notorious for lying about their technology acting like its beyond comprehension. Also the M1 abrams is like 50 years old and Russia gets modern tech.

Also the br system is so broken, you sign up for ww2 vehicles and face off against cold war russian tech yeah thats balanced good meme gaijin lmao

[I AM THE LAW!]

Автор сообщения: Kenlict

Well the game uses the data released by nations. Russia is notorious for lying about their technology acting like its beyond comprehension. Also the M1 abrams is like 50 years old and Russia gets modern tech.

NO IT DOESN"T LMAO. if they DID a lot of things would be way more accurate. gaijin uses RUSSIAN sources. heaven FORBID they use a US source!

[Omega Sirius]

Why does T-72M1 even have composite armor? I thought USSR never made composite armor for that model.

[DrunkenTee]

Автор сообщения: Craftfaster

Автор сообщения: Kenlict

Well the game uses the data released by nations. Russia is notorious for lying about their technology acting like its beyond comprehension. Also the M1 abrams is like 50 years old and Russia gets modern tech.

NO IT DOESN"T LMAO. if they DID a lot of things would be way more accurate. gaijin uses RUSSIAN sources. heaven FORBID they use a US source!

and 9/11 was an inside job, right?

[I AM THE LAW!]

Автор сообщения: DrunkenTee

Автор сообщения: Craftfaster

NO IT DOESN"T LMAO. if they DID a lot of things would be way more accurate. gaijin uses RUSSIAN sources. heaven FORBID they use a US source!

and 9/11 was an inside job, right?

wow..you're delusional if you think gaijin isn't biased towards russian sources. there's so many people that have submitted VALID sources from companies and countries, but gaijin turns it down becuase it's not a third party or russian source.

[DrunkenTee]

Автор сообщения: Craftfaster

Автор сообщения: DrunkenTee

and 9/11 was an inside job, right?

wow..you're delusional if you think gaijin isn't biased towards russian sources. there's so many people that have submitted VALID sources from companies and countries, but gaijin turns it down becuase it's not a third party or russian source.

Is this bias in the room right now?

[I AM THE LAW!]

Автор сообщения: DrunkenTee

Автор сообщения: Craftfaster

wow..you're delusional if you think gaijin isn't biased towards russian sources. there's so many people that have submitted VALID sources from companies and countries, but gaijin turns it down becuase it's not a third party or russian source.

Is this bias in the room right now?

Dude...do some research, ask the community. check out spookston. he's submitted several reports, some very lengthy and they get declined cause gaijin refuses anything that isn't russian or in-line with their bias.

[DrunkenTee]

Автор сообщения: Craftfaster

Автор сообщения: DrunkenTee

Is this bias in the room right now?

Dude...do some research, ask the community. check out spookston. he's submitted several reports, some very lengthy and they get declined cause gaijin refuses anything that isn't russian or in-line with their bias.

I dont really put a lot of worth in the opinion of furries to be honest.