Russian tanks are way to OP

[G3VEDO-]

My Abrams and Leos die in 1-2 shots, But my T72 Just tanks as many shots as it feels like, Its really annoying how I end up using my 9.3 t72 more in 10.3 than my actual 10.3 vehicles at that br just because The t72 refuses to die.

[DrunkenTee]

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By the way we are SO getting modded for derailing.

It was inevitable at least a page ago, but hey as long as we are having fun, not like the original subject wasn’t dead as a doornail

OP is just whining anyway, look at his pinned answer.

[Wandering Flare]

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So why did they make the term "GBU" following the term "GB" to describe the exact same kind of munition that AGM-62A is and didn't instead name every other guided bomb an AGM, since you're trying to argue that AGM was completely correct for it and they named it so because of the non-munitions-specific term of "missile"?

Around the same time as AGM-62A they would also make BOLT-117 which is the same kind of munition, the BO standing for "BOmb", not "Missile".

why do they have all these designations for things I wonder, and why do they keep changing their minds and calling a guidance package on a rocket a guided rocket. Couldn’t be because they are invented terminology

No matter how you might cry the US military does not have the power to redefine the English language as they please. They can choose to use it in certain ways, and even misuse their own terminology as they please. None of it affects English as a whole

I don't care about redefining the english language, what I care about is you saying the AGM-62A is called an AGM because it's clearly the correct term despite it not fitting the term of AGM at the time and instead fitting an existing term of GBU at the time, and they are apparently stupid for not naming any other guided bomb an AGM besides that one because language dictates they were entirely correct.

I guess next time I need my coworker to hand me a spanner I'll tell him to hand me a screwdriver and then give him a lecture on how he should've known I needed the spanner because english language dictates that they fall under the same term of "tool used to rotate".

I literally have nothing else to say besides "This isn't the 1700s, get with the times, old man".

[Wandering Flare]

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gee I wonder why we still call archers in age of empires ‘missile units’

We? Nobody I know calls them "missile units", they are simply called archers or crossbowmen.

I've played AoE III so I guess I was a bit too far into the future to encounter these "missile units" but even then it's very surprising I have not encountered a single unit in any game that was called "missile unit" outside of units that were using guided rockets.

[Eftwyrd]

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We? Nobody I know calls them "missile units", they are simply called archers or crossbowmen.

I've played AoE III so I guess I was a bit too far into the future to encounter these "missile units" but even then it's very surprising I have not encountered a single unit in any game that was called "missile unit" outside of units that were using guided rockets.

perhaps you don’t read enough, it’s not your fault if you are unfamiliar with anything but the modern military and their appropriation and misuse of language

In such games all ranged units are commonly called ‘missile units’ and you will find any number of people online referring to them as such, which is correct by the English definition of the term and even the developers of some RTS who actually use the term ‘missile attack’ in the ui to describe such units

[Bob]

Russian literally made an entire movie about how Russian tanks are objectively OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFEcUGq6RYk

[Wandering Flare]

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I've played AoE III so I guess I was a bit too far into the future to encounter these "missile units" but even then it's very surprising I have not encountered a single unit in any game that was called "missile unit" outside of units that were using guided rockets.

perhaps you don’t read enough, it’s not your fault if you are unfamiliar with anything but the modern military and their appropriation and misuse of language

In such games all ranged units are commonly called ‘missile units’

You keep saying "misuse and appropriation", I think the term you're looking for is "making specific terms for specific things so terminology isn't confusing".

Like, hell, imagine we called guns "downscaled personal ship-mounted firework application devices" or bullets "downscaled explosive powder propelled lead missiles", that would get old fast.

[Eftwyrd]

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perhaps you don’t read enough, it’s not your fault if you are unfamiliar with anything but the modern military and their appropriation and misuse of language

In such games all ranged units are commonly called ‘missile units’

You keep saying "misuse and appropriation", I think the term you're looking for is "making specific terms for specific things so terminology isn't confusing".

Like, hell, imagine we called guns "downscaled personal ship-mounted firework application devices" or bullets "downscaled explosive powder propelled lead missiles", that would get old fast.

Which is called jargon, and jargon does not redefine the English language

The military can’t even use their own terms consistently and keep redefining it as they please. None of their shenanigans mean English changed

[Wandering Flare]

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Russian literally made an entire movie about how Russian tanks are objectively OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFEcUGq6RYk

Oh by fate uncaring, you have reminded me of the existence of this movie (and that director and russian cinema in general). If I was an alcoholic I'd be reaching for the bottle to forget that like the americans would want to forget 911.

[Wandering Flare]

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You keep saying "misuse and appropriation", I think the term you're looking for is "making specific terms for specific things so terminology isn't confusing".

Like, hell, imagine we called guns "downscaled personal ship-mounted firework application devices" or bullets "downscaled explosive powder propelled lead missiles", that would get old fast.

Which is called jargon, and jargon does not redefine the English language

The military can’t even use their own terms consistently and keep redefining it as they please. None of their shenanigans mean English changed

Which is still completely irrelevant to the "It's called AGM because it fits the general meaning of "missile"" when the item in question does not fit the meaning of AGM used by the same people at the same time. It's like if you had 5 hammers in front of you and you went "Hammer, hammer, hammer, wrench because you are a tool, hammer".

[Eftwyrd]

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Which is called jargon, and jargon does not redefine the English language

The military can’t even use their own terms consistently and keep redefining it as they please. None of their shenanigans mean English changed

Which is still completely irrelevant to the "It's called AGM because it fits the general meaning of "missile"" when the item in question does not fit the meaning of AGM used by the same people at the same time. It's like if you had 5 hammers in front of you and you went "Hammer, hammer, hammer, wrench because you are a tool, hammer".

just because I in my professional capacity as a devops engineer have a very specific definition for the word function, doesn’t mean that is the only correct use of that term

Jargons coexist with the language they are based on, they don’t make use of the original definition incorrect in an online discussion and certainly don’t require non members of the group it originated from to adopt it

[Bob]

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Ain't Bomb の投稿を引用：

Russian literally made an entire movie about how Russian tanks are objectively OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFEcUGq6RYk

Oh by fate uncaring, you have reminded me of the existence of this movie (and that director and russian cinema in general). If I was an alcoholic I'd be reaching for the bottle to forget that like the americans would want to forget 911.

This movie is cool.

[nirvana_sth]

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Russian literally made an entire movie about how Russian tanks are objectively OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFEcUGq6RYk

Is the TC and gunner the same in that T-34?

[Bob]

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Ain't Bomb の投稿を引用：

Russian literally made an entire movie about how Russian tanks are objectively OP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFEcUGq6RYk

Is the TC and gunner the same in that T-34?

Not a commander but the leader. Not above the common people but with them.

[Wandering Flare]

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Which is still completely irrelevant to the "It's called AGM because it fits the general meaning of "missile"" when the item in question does not fit the meaning of AGM used by the same people at the same time. It's like if you had 5 hammers in front of you and you went "Hammer, hammer, hammer, wrench because you are a tool, hammer".

just because I in my professional capacity as a devops engineer have a very specific definition for the word function, doesn’t mean that is the only correct use of that term

Jargons coexist with the language they are based on, they don’t make use of the original definition incorrect in an online discussion and certainly don’t require non members of the group it originated from to adopt it

"Jesus ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Mugabe", are we actually doing this again? Alright, this time I actually have time for it. You are winning an argument with nobody here because instead of adressing what I'm saying you keep repeating the same roughly related truth that I'm not trying to disprove either.

The specialized "missile" term they were using included being propelled by an engine, they called the AGM-62A a "missile" despite it not being propelled by an engine. Whether it was a missile by the definition from the early 200s or whatever is irrelevant, as is the specialized term irrelevant to the term from the early 200s.

If you looked at something in your field that wasn't a "function" and somebody called it a "function", implying your field's specialized term, would you say they were incorrect? If you would say it's not a "function" but some other term also used in your field, then it is just as correct to say that the AGM-62A was not a "missile" but a "guided bomb".

[nirvana_sth]

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Is the TC and gunner the same in that T-34?

Not a commander but the leader. Not above the common people but with them.

Jokes aside I have serious questions for you T-34 afficionados... if it's an early T-34 why the gunner is sitting, if it's the later model where is the TC?