Why is Type 87 SPAA only limited 40 rounds of DM23?

[Antiriad]

I just ground it out and found this dumb nerf.

Why Gaijin, why?

[SEXTON HAVER]

A few spaa have stuff like this.

Yet stuff like the WZ305 doesn't which makes zero sense

[Antiriad]

Originally posted by SEXTON HAVER:

A few spaa have stuff like this.

Yet stuff like the WZ305 doesn't which makes zero sense

total bias. I only ground it out because I found it a useful addition to my GF (i.ts useless for shooting down ACTUAL planes).

but no - standard rounds you can have 640, but DM23 - nope. only 40, which is still enough to take out a couple of unsuspecting tanks at that BR.

[mrunuick]

Realism. All the Oerlikon KDAs are limited to 40 self defense rounds because that's all that fits in the secondary belt compartments on the real vehicles.

They're AA vehicles, not light tanks.

Originally posted by Antiriad:

Originally posted by SEXTON HAVER:

A few spaa have stuff like this.

Yet stuff like the WZ305 doesn't which makes zero sense

total bias. I only ground it out because I found it a useful addition to my GF (i.ts useless for shooting down ACTUAL planes).

but no - standard rounds you can have 640, but DM23 - nope. only 40, which is still enough to take out a couple of unsuspecting tanks at that BR.

No bias involved, as it affects all vehicles that use said weapon system.

[Antiriad]

Originally posted by mrunuick:

Realism. All the Oerlikon KDAs are limited to 40 self defense rounds because that's all that fits in the secondary belt compartments on the real vehicles.

They're AA vehicles, not light tanks.

if that is actually true, then fair enough. Is it actually true though?

[Pec]

Anything that uses the gepard style cannons has a secondary apds belt its on the outside its a small box

[Col. Cornbread]

Every 35mm spaa had the APDS condensed to a single 40 round belt 5+ years ago...

[mogami_99]

most common thing when player SPAA is running out of ammo and then needing to bum rush a cap to reload.

[ArrowViper]

Originally posted by Antiriad:

I just ground it out and found this dumb nerf.

Why Gaijin, why?

SPAA ARE NOT TANK DESTROYERS, AP should be removed completely and in turn, SPAA should have a protected spawn zone.

[Blamite Delight]

Originally posted by Antiriad:

Originally posted by mrunuick:

Realism. All the Oerlikon KDAs are limited to 40 self defense rounds because that's all that fits in the secondary belt compartments on the real vehicles.

They're AA vehicles, not light tanks.

if that is actually true, then fair enough. Is it actually true though?

it is indeed, it's part of the vehicle design

[Legion]

Originally posted by ArrowViper:

SPAA ARE NOT TANK DESTROYERS, AP should be removed completely

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-propelled_anti-aircraft_weapon
'' In addition, most anti-aircraft guns can be used in a direct-fire role against surface targets to great effect.''

''The M42 was introduced to the Vietnam War to counter an expected North Vietnamese air offensive, but when this failed to materialize it was used as an effective direct-fire weapon. The ZSU-57 found similar use in the Yugoslav Wars, where its high-angle fire was useful in the mountainous terrain. ''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantsir_missile_system
''Two dual 2A38M 30 mm (1.2 in) autocannon guns are fitted with 700 rounds in a variety of ammunition—HE (High Explosive) fragmentation, fragmentation tracer, and armour-piercing with tracer.''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marksman_anti-aircraft_system
''he ItPsv 90 Marksman is primarily meant to fight helicopters, low-flying aircraft and unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). It is also possible to engage surface and armored targets. ''

''The magazines hold 460 fragmentation rounds and 40 anti-tank rounds. ''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PGZ-09
''The vehicle can choose from five types of ammunition before engagement, including HEI (High Explosive Incendiary) with tracer variant, SAPHEI (Semi-armor-piercing high-explosive incendiary) with tracer variant, armor-piercing discarding sabot, programmable Air burst and Target Practice Tracer.''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIDAM_25
''An internal magazine also houses 40 APDS rounds that can be used against enemy vehicles.''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otomatic
''The gun could also be useful against lighter armored vehicles or older generation tanks. The barrel was strengthened in order to hold greater pressures, so it can fire not only HE, but also APFSDS ammunition.''

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAV-25#Derivatives
''LAV fitted with an electric turret mounting a General Dynamics GAU-12 Equalizer''
''The Nammo 25 mm PGU-47/U APEX (Armor Piercing with Explosive)[5] projectile has been developed for the GAU-22/A.[6] It features a tungsten carbide penetrator in the tip and an explosive fragmentation body, to be multi-purpose against both hardened and soft targets.''

Funny how realism is ok till someone doesn't like something then it's all crying to change/remove/nerff stuff...

Ed:Typos

[Toblm]

Originally posted by ArrowViper:

Originally posted by Antiriad:

I just ground it out and found this dumb nerf.

Why Gaijin, why?

SPAA ARE NOT TANK DESTROYERS, AP should be removed completely and in turn, SPAA should have a protected spawn zone.

They can be.
It shouldnt be.
And they have one, just like everyone else.

[French Cat]

Originally posted by ArrowViper:

Originally posted by Antiriad:

I just ground it out and found this dumb nerf.

Why Gaijin, why?

SPAA ARE NOT TANK DESTROYERS, AP should be removed completely and in turn, SPAA should have a protected spawn zone.

Naw, sounds like a camper’s dream