turm III sealclubbing at 8.x

[ospholis]

fast firing, 30mm that deletes everything, MBT mechanic of commander becoming gunner.

soo why is this thing at this br? it could go flawlessly in 9.0 even with the APDS round since it haves even more pen power than the 3BM25 from the T-55AM/AMD-1 (they already are at 8.7 which means getting uptiered at 9.7) instead of just demolishing tanks that are way inferior than this.

[Toblm]

But it makes such a pretty fireball when its sneezed on.

[ospholis]

Originally posted by Toblm:

But it makes such a pretty fireball when its sneezed on.

doesnt change the fact that its undertiered by having such advanced stuff

[Toblm]

Originally posted by ospholis:

Originally posted by Toblm:

But it makes such a pretty fireball when its sneezed on.

doesnt change the fact that its undertiered by having such advanced stuff

It does. "Advanced stuff" doesnt change its a glass cannon that isnt durable enough for a higher BR. "Advanced stuff' is present in 1.7 BR vehicles, they still should be 1.7s.

Its stuff isnt even particularly advanced. Stabilizer, 105mm gun and an autoloader. Not even a laser rangefinder.

[ospholis]

Originally posted by Toblm:

Originally posted by ospholis:

doesnt change the fact that its undertiered by having such advanced stuff

It does. "Advanced stuff" doesnt change its a glass cannon that isnt durable enough for a higher BR. "Advanced stuff' is present in 1.7 BR vehicles, they still should be 1.7s.

Its stuff isnt even particularly advanced. Stabilizer, 105mm gun and an autoloader. Not even a laser rangefinder.

the fact that it haves a 5 second autoloader, stabilizer when almost nothing haves it yet,commander gunner override, 30mm autocannon that evaporates any light tank and 400mm HEATFS in early 8.x makes it quite the menace.

[Toblm]

Originally posted by ospholis:

Originally posted by Toblm:

It does. "Advanced stuff" doesnt change its a glass cannon that isnt durable enough for a higher BR. "Advanced stuff' is present in 1.7 BR vehicles, they still should be 1.7s.

Its stuff isnt even particularly advanced. Stabilizer, 105mm gun and an autoloader. Not even a laser rangefinder.

the fact that it haves a 5 second autoloader, stabilizer when almost nothing haves it yet,commander gunner override, 30mm autocannon that evaporates any light tank and 400mm HEATFS in early 8.x makes it quite the menace.

Almost everything has a stabilizer. Many things have the 400mm Heatfs. 30mm autocannon is situation-ally useful but doesnt counter lethal threat of IFVs.

Yes the 5 second autoloader is solid. But thats the only thing exceptional about the vehicle. Other than it being 1 hit killed from any direction by anything.

[French Cat]

Yea the turms compared to the Char 25T it's a monster. Should be 8.3 imo, but people who play it will cry about it being easy to kill (when everything else is easy to kill) so it wont.

[Toblm]

Originally posted by Kitty Cat:

Yea the turms compared to the Char 25T it's a monster. Should be 8.3 imo,.

Good news. It IS 8.3.

[French Cat]

Originally posted by Toblm:

Originally posted by Kitty Cat:

Yea the turms compared to the Char 25T it's a monster. Should be 8.3 imo,.

Good news. It IS 8.3.

OMG YIPPEE!!!!

[ErickaUnlimited]

Originally posted by ospholis:

Originally posted by Toblm:

But it makes such a pretty fireball when its sneezed on.

doesnt change the fact that its undertiered by having such advanced stuff

It's not under tiered. Any competent tanker should be able to handle it fairly easily. Its turret is one big ammo rack and it's made of tin foil. Seems fine where its at.

[French Cat]

Originally posted by ErickaUnlimited:

Originally posted by ospholis:

doesnt change the fact that its undertiered by having such advanced stuff

It's not under tiered. Any competent tanker should be able to handle it fairly easily. Its turret is one big ammo rack and it's made of tin foil. Seems fine where its at.

Everything at that tier is practically made out of tin foil, and why are you relying on the armor? The best way to play ANY tank is not to get shot at first. Like any light tank.... If you're not stupid, then the armor wouldn't be an issue but more of an blessing cus you're lighter.

[Toblm]

Originally posted by Kitty Cat:

Originally posted by ErickaUnlimited:

It's not under tiered. Any competent tanker should be able to handle it fairly easily. Its turret is one big ammo rack and it's made of tin foil. Seems fine where its at.

Everything at that tier is practically made out of tin foil, and why are you relying on the armor? The best way to play ANY tank is not to get shot at first. Like any light tank.... If you're not stupid, then the armor wouldn't be an issue but more of an blessing cus you're lighter.

There are plenty of things at 8.3 that can bounce or survive a bad, unlucky or inproperly aimed shot.

The Turms cant. It explodes.

[French Cat]

Originally posted by Toblm:

Originally posted by Kitty Cat:

Everything at that tier is practically made out of tin foil, and why are you relying on the armor? The best way to play ANY tank is not to get shot at first. Like any light tank.... If you're not stupid, then the armor wouldn't be an issue but more of an blessing cus you're lighter.

There are plenty of things at 8.3 that can bounce or survive a bad, unlucky or inproperly aimed shot.

The Turms cant. It explodes.

No armor best armor

[Toblm]

Originally posted by Kitty Cat:

Originally posted by Toblm:

There are plenty of things at 8.3 that can bounce or survive a bad, unlucky or inproperly aimed shot.

The Turms cant. It explodes.

No armor best armor

Sure. But the Turms neither has NO armor nor does it have large open spaces for rounds to pass through.

The turms has enough armor to fuse rounds but not enough to stop them AND any shot remotely center mass to the Turms hits the turret doing one of two things, killing the turret crewor detonating the turret ammo (which takes up 2/3rds of the tank) killing the tank.

No Armor best armor works best on things like IFV that have large chunks of the hull space that doesnt have ammo, crew or other important bits.

[French Cat]

Originally posted by Toblm:

Originally posted by Kitty Cat:

No armor best armor

Sure. But the Turms neither has NO armor nor does it have large open spaces for rounds to pass through.

The turms has enough armor to fuse rounds but not enough to stop them AND any shot remotely center mass to the Turms hits the turret doing one of two things, killing the turret crewor detonating the turret ammo (which takes up 2/3rds of the tank) killing the tank.

No Armor best armor works best on things like IFV that have large chunks of the hull space that doesnt have ammo, crew or other important bits.

Just aim right and boom.

[Lucky_Star_Fan]

A lot of vehicles around 8.0 start to have commander override. Honestly it's very unlikely that you kill the Turm III gunner and not his commander in the same shot(and thus destroying the vehicle) given the seating arrangement.