Which is better? Merkava MK.2D or the Raam Sagol?

[ProjectKata]

Pretty much what the title says, I want to get 1 of them but im not sure which is better overall, and which will be more fun to play. (also, for the record, I know israeli tanks are pretty terrible atm, but if you had to choose)

[<I^_^]I_1C3Qu33n_X33_I[^_^]>]

Why would you even question this, the Raam Segol is obviously better... its technically a Mk3D with minor improvements.

[ProjectKata]

Originally posted by <I Mr.Yablokov I>:

Why would you even question this, the Raam Segol is obviously better... its technically a Mk3D with minor improvements.

So out of the 2, it would be better to purchase the Raam over the Merkava?

the reason i was questioning is because of the Rating difference btw

[<I^_^]I_1C3Qu33n_X33_I[^_^]>]

Originally posted by ProjectKata:

Originally posted by <I Mr.Yablokov I>:

Why would you even question this, the Raam Segol is obviously better... its technically a Mk3D with minor improvements.

So out of the 2, it would be better to purchase the Raam over the Merkava?

the reason i was questioning is because of the Rating difference btw

They are both merkava...

But you probably want to know which one is more worth it in the end, i suggest you wait for the 30% off sale to end this is fairly soon, cuz thats when they announce the gaijin store sales you could pick up the 2D on sale which is definitely more worth it, than buying the 3D for 70$

[ProjectKata]

Originally posted by <I Mr.Yablokov I>:

Originally posted by ProjectKata:

So out of the 2, it would be better to purchase the Raam over the Merkava?

the reason i was questioning is because of the Rating difference btw

They are both merkava...

But you probably want to know which one is more worth it in the end, i suggest you wait for the 30% off sale to end this is fairly soon, cuz thats when they announce the gaijin store sales you could pick up the 2D on sale which is definitely more worth it, than buying the 3D for 70$

Oh, alright thanks, also last question, do you know exactly when the gaijin store sale is?

[<I^_^]I_1C3Qu33n_X33_I[^_^]>]

Originally posted by ProjectKata:

Originally posted by <I Mr.Yablokov I>:

They are both merkava...

But you probably want to know which one is more worth it in the end, i suggest you wait for the 30% off sale to end this is fairly soon, cuz thats when they announce the gaijin store sales you could pick up the 2D on sale which is definitely more worth it, than buying the 3D for 70$

Oh, alright thanks, also last question, do you know exactly when the gaijin store sale is?

From May 6th until May 13th.

[Kunic]

The 2D has the downside, that you don´t really have a 9.7 lineup for israel - it´s the only thing there and close almost everthing similar is 9.3 on the other hand you´ll take a lot longer to get the other 11.0 tanks for the Raam.

You can get the 2D, Squad Megach and shot Kal Dalet as a half way working lineup but it´s really on the lower half of working. (Probably still a bit better than boosting a 11.0 Tank with 6.0 stuff...)

Also Israel tends to have really bad win rates which makes the grind worse.

[ProjectKata]

Originally posted by Kunicross:

The 2D has the downside, that you don´t really have a 9.7 lineup for israel - it´s the only thing there and close almost everthing similar is 9.3 on the other hand you´ll take a lot longer to get the other 11.0 tanks for the Raam.

You can get the 2D, Squad Megach and shot Kal Dalet as a half way working lineup but it´s really on the lower half of working. (Probably still a bit better than boosting a 11.0 Tank with 6.0 stuff...)

Also Israel tends to have really bad win rates which makes the grind worse.

so the 2D is harder to make a proper lineup with but the Ra'am is harder to grind a lineup for?

[Shyue Chou]

I have played the Merkava Mk 2D extensively and also the regular Merkava Mk 3s on the tech tree, having spaded them. I haven't played the premium Raal Segol but it should be similar to the Merkava Mk 3s on the tech tree.

Merkava Mk 2D
Pros
1. BR 9.7 is a good rating to be at, even if you were uptiered, you will face 10.7 at best, and that is the T-90A. You won't meet 11.0 Type 90s, etc. You are almost always competitive.
Cons
1. You can form a line-up only with BR 9.3 tanks.
2. Slow.
3. Big hull. Can be one-shot from the front.

Merkava Mk. 3s and Raal Segol
Pros
1. If lucky, you get downtiered to fight 10.0 tanks. It happens but not always.
2. You can form a 3-tank line-up with the other regular tech tree Merkava Mk 3s.
3. Faster than Merkava Mk 2s with a 1200 hp engine.
4. 120 mm gun instead of 105 mm gun.
5. Laser warning system.
Cons
1. If unlucky, you will be uptiered to fight 11.7 tanks and this happens a lot as everybody plays 11.7.
2. Big hull. Can be one-shot from the front.


I hope this helps. These are also some of the same points raised by some of the guys.

[ProjectKata]

Originally posted by Shyue Chou:

I have played the Merkava Mk 2D extensively and also the regular Merkava Mk 3s on the tech tree, having spaded them. I haven't played the premium Raal Segol but it should be similar to the Merkava Mk 3s on the tech tree.

Merkava Mk 2D
Pros
1. BR 9.7 is a good rating to be at, even if you were uptiered, you will face 10.7 at best, and that is the T-90A. You won't meet 11.0 Type 90s, etc. You are almost always competitive.
Cons
1. You can form a line-up only with BR 9.3 tanks.
2. Slow.
3. Big hull. Can be one-shot from the front.

Merkava Mk. 3s and Raal Segol
Pros
1. If lucky, you get downtiered to fight 10.0 tanks. It happens but not always.
2. You can form a 3-tank line-up with the other regular tech tree Merkava Mk 3s.
3. Faster than Merkava Mk 2s with a 1200 hp engine.
Cons
1. If unlucky, you will be uptiered to fight 11.7 tanks and this happens a lot as everybody plays 11.7.
2. Big hull. Can be one-shot from the front.


I hope this helps. These are also some of the same points raised by some of the guys.

thanks! will def help in considering which one, but while you're here, in your opinion which one is overall better?

[ProjectKata]

Originally posted by ProjectKata:

Originally posted by Shyue Chou:

I have played the Merkava Mk 2D extensively and also the regular Merkava Mk 3s on the tech tree, having spaded them. I haven't played the premium Raal Segol but it should be similar to the Merkava Mk 3s on the tech tree.

Merkava Mk 2D
Pros
1. BR 9.7 is a good rating to be at, even if you were uptiered, you will face 10.7 at best, and that is the T-90A. You won't meet 11.0 Type 90s, etc. You are almost always competitive.
Cons
1. You can form a line-up only with BR 9.3 tanks.
2. Slow.
3. Big hull. Can be one-shot from the front.

Merkava Mk. 3s and Raal Segol
Pros
1. If lucky, you get downtiered to fight 10.0 tanks. It happens but not always.
2. You can form a 3-tank line-up with the other regular tech tree Merkava Mk 3s.
3. Faster than Merkava Mk 2s with a 1200 hp engine.
Cons
1. If unlucky, you will be uptiered to fight 11.7 tanks and this happens a lot as everybody plays 11.7.
2. Big hull. Can be one-shot from the front.


I hope this helps. These are also some of the same points raised by some of the guys.

thanks! will def help in considering which one, but while you're here, in your opinion which one is overall better?

Oh also, i think its worth to mention, i also already have the Kfir C2 on my account, which is a BR of 11

[Shyue Chou]

A bit more on this. I have also played the Merkava Mk 4s. Right now, I am researching the rest of the Magach tree and also the SPAAG/SAMs finishing up with Israel. I was using the Merkava Mk 2D to do that. After a while, I decided to drop to 9.0 and use the Sho't Kal Dalet. It is easier to score and get kills at 9.0 despite having such a slow tank.

My K/D with the Sho't Kal Dalet is much better than the Merkava Mk 2D. And my Merkava Mk 2D results are better than my Merkava Mk 3B and Mk 3C. I have no plans to get the Raal Segol at all. I will finish researching and buying everything with the Sho't Kal Dalet.

[Shyue Chou]

Originally posted by ProjectKata:

thanks! will def help in considering which one, but while you're here, in your opinion which one is overall better?

Okay, that depends on your intention, is it to form a workable line-up for battles or is it to grind the rest of the tree? Or is it to earn SL? What are your long term plans?

p.s. I would pick the Merkava Mk 2D. I don't have the Raal Segol.

[ProjectKata]

Originally posted by Shyue Chou:

Originally posted by ProjectKata:

thanks! will def help in considering which one, but while you're here, in your opinion which one is overall better?

Okay, that depends on your intention, is it to form a workable line-up for battles or is it to grind the rest of the tree? Or is it to earn SL? What are your long term plans?

p.s. I would pick the Merkava Mk 2D. I don't have the Raal Segol.

grind the rest of the tree pretty much, also, is the kfir i mentioned earlier going to be worth using with the merkava 2d?

[Shyue Chou]

Originally posted by ProjectKata:

Originally posted by Shyue Chou:

Okay, that depends on your intention, is it to form a workable line-up for battles or is it to grind the rest of the tree? Or is it to earn SL? What are your long term plans?
p.s. I would pick the Merkava Mk 2D. I don't have the Raal Segol.

grind the rest of the tree pretty much, also, is the kfir i mentioned earlier going to be worth using with the merkava 2d?

I am a very poor pilot, I have played a bit of rank 1 and 2 air battles but I can't fly for nuts. I have very few aircraft. All my line-ups are pure MBTs.

You have a 11.0 Kfir, in other words, all your battles are going to be 11.0 anyway, you better pick the Raal Segol, forget the Merkava Mk 2D, otherwise, it is going to be painful, very painful. The Merkava 2D is SLOW, 963 hp on 66 ton. It is sluggish. You are going to face fast Leopard 2s and T-80s.

[ProjectKata]

Originally posted by Shyue Chou:

Originally posted by ProjectKata:

grind the rest of the tree pretty much, also, is the kfir i mentioned earlier going to be worth using with the merkava 2d?

I am a very poor pilot, I have played a bit of rank 1 and 2 air battles but I can't fly for nuts. I have very few aircraft. All my line-ups are pure MBTs.

You have a 11.0 Kfir, in other words, all your battles are going to be 11.0 anyway, you better pick the Raal Segol, forget the Merkava Mk 2D, otherwise, it is going to be painful, very painful. The Merkava 2D is SLOW, 963 hp on 66 ton. It is sluggish. You are going to face fast Leopard 2s and T-80s. :mortis:

alright xD thanks