MILAN ATGM

[Danvolution]

You know that feeling when you finally get a decent/good vehicle, but one of it's aspects is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that it basically ruins the whole experience? Yeah, I'm talking about Marder IFV(Both of them). Like don't get me wrong here, the vehicle is pretty good, but as said previously, ATGM just ruins it.
1- For some strange reason it has no gun depression, because of which if you try to launch it somewhere, it would just go kamikaze into the ground.
2- Strange damage models, like I get the fact that it's 60s era ATGM, but why sometimes it deals NO ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DAMAGE(Sometimes you might use 3-4 to just kill somebody :/ )?????
3- Strange movement in no use time, by that I mean those times where it moves left or right on it's own, and when I need to launch it, it flies in ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ZIG-ZAG PATTERN.
4- Somehow, in the aspect of speed it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ too(I get the fact that it's maneuverable, but it's useless with it drifting on turns), many times I lost kills due to teammates, just because their shells fly faster than my ATGM's, and because first one just killed his driver/gunner.

[Blamite Delight]

ATGM's have a dead zone where the missile needs to arm itself, if the missile bobs up or down after launch, that's it's dead zone and you can't control it until it arms itself and starts receiving data from the guidence unit.

[jaxjace]

Having spaded both of the marders, I feel really bad for you. They are the worst IFV in the game, even worse than the Warrior.

[Franss the Coffee Addict]

Originally posted by jaxjace:

Having spaded both of the marders, I feel really bad for you. They are the worst IFV in the game, even worse than the Warrior.

hol up are we forgetting swingfire and striker exist again, or are they actually good

[Kay]

Originally posted by Franss the Coffee Addict:

Originally posted by jaxjace:

Having spaded both of the marders, I feel really bad for you. They are the worst IFV in the game, even worse than the Warrior.

hol up are we forgetting swingfire and striker exist again, or are they actually good

Ever since the missiles were corrected to work how they do IRL the swingfire and Striker have been good, but they're also not IFVs so that isn't particularly relevant here.

As for the marder being "the worst IFV", that's not even close to true. The marders are solid IFVs, the 1A3 is on par with the warrior because it's better for anti aircraft fire and the higher fire rate offsets the lower penetration/post pen against lighter vehicles.

Honestly I'd take the 1A3 over the first Bradley (no ATGM launcher folding to worry about), and both over the BMP-1, ratell 20, or BTR-82.

To OP, at least for point 1, it has gun depression you just aren't accounting for the missile dropping below your crosshairs when you fire, aim above obstacles/ground to avoid it dropping into them before it's at flight speed, then move your crosshairs onto the target.

It's a thing with the vast majority of ATGMs in game, TOWs are awful for it because they drop nearly the height of the Bradley and swing in from the side instead of going forwards.

[Danvolution]

Originally posted by Blamite Delight:

ATGM's have a dead zone where the missile needs to arm itself, if the missile bobs up or down after launch, that's it's dead zone and you can't control it until it arms itself and starts receiving data from the guidence unit.

I'm ok with the dead zone, my problem is with the fact that if you turn the missile too fast, it just gives up maneuvering and flies into the ground

[j.yellow28]

Originally posted by Danvolution:

Originally posted by Blamite Delight:

ATGM's have a dead zone where the missile needs to arm itself, if the missile bobs up or down after launch, that's it's dead zone and you can't control it until it arms itself and starts receiving data from the guidence unit.

I'm ok with the dead zone, my problem is with the fact that if you turn the missile too fast, it just gives up maneuvering and flies into the ground

yea alot of ATGMs that fire from a alauncher after the ATGM update do that, u use to be able to whip them around corners if skilled enuf