Naval needs less players to start a battle

[Santa Claus]

Every time I have to play naval for a task it is painful. 100k people online and I'm waiting up to 5 minutes for a match in either arcade or realistic at Tier 3. Nobody likes this game mode.

[Mephisto]

I second the request
+ do not replace the missing players with bots, just allow smaller battles on the way to small maps

[Black_Fox]

Making the mode more fun would help greatly

[mogami_99]

Originally posted by Mephisto:

I second the request
+ do not replace the missing players with bots, just allow smaller battles on the way to small maps

+1

[Soky]

Im playing naval battles just now only because of battlepass task, but its really pain.
Not fun, even not challenging, just pain.
It starts with waiting for battle, then ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ distance aiming and then just the rest of all....just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ part of WT...
But its just my opinion, Someone maybe seeing this in different colours......

Other thing is, I did 2 battlepasses in past (if I remember correctly), and if this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tasks will be continuing, I will not try battlepass again...
Its just nonsence to play something I dont like, to just win a plane or tank...... Not user friendly at all.
But again, just my opinion. No offence to anyone.

[mogami_99]

Originally posted by Soky:

Im playing naval battles just now only because of battlepass task, but its really pain.
Not fun, even not challenging, just pain.
It starts with waiting for battle, then ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ distance aiming and then just the rest of all....just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ part of WT...
But its just my opinion, Someone maybe seeing this in different colours......

Other thing is, I did 2 battlepasses in past (if I remember correctly), and if this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tasks will be continuing, I will not try battlepass again...
Its just nonsence to play something I dont like, to just win a plane or tank...... Not user friendly at all.
But again, just my opinion. No offence to anyone.

I am a naval main. So the air and ground 10k mission requirements are to me what the 10k naval requirement is to you. By my calculations to do the air I need about 500 mission points per day (or 2 missions) Ground I can get 1k per mission so 1 mission per day for 10 days. I am sure I can do this while still doing my daily/special tasks in naval (of course I already have the 10k naval 6k ground and 3k air. with 18 days to go.
It is the old "How do you eat an elephant?" "one bite at a time"
Do coastal. The missions are faster they are a lot like fighting in a fighter, or a tank

[Soky]

Originally posted by mogami_99:

Originally posted by Soky:

Im playing naval battles just now only because of battlepass task, but its really pain.
Not fun, even not challenging, just pain.
It starts with waiting for battle, then ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ distance aiming and then just the rest of all....just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ part of WT...
But its just my opinion, Someone maybe seeing this in different colours......

Other thing is, I did 2 battlepasses in past (if I remember correctly), and if this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tasks will be continuing, I will not try battlepass again...
Its just nonsence to play something I dont like, to just win a plane or tank...... Not user friendly at all.
But again, just my opinion. No offence to anyone.

I am a naval main. So the air and ground 10k mission requirements are to me what the 10k naval requirement is to you. By my calculations to do the air I need about 500 mission points per day (or 2 missions) Ground I can get 1k per mission so 1 mission per day for 10 days. I am sure I can do this while still doing my daily/special tasks in naval (of course I already have the 10k naval 6k ground and 3k air. with 18 days to go.

Thats it :-)
I did 10k in air in maybe 15 battles
now I have 1300 points in ground after 4 battles
but I played maybe 10 naval battles and im in with 2500 points....and I did not enjoyed them....

But thats it, everyone likes something else, I respect that,
but for me the naval is not good at all

I dont have a coastal tier III
Im playing with Cadiz....And I cannot remember how I get this one :-D

I must say in the end, I love ships and boats,
but most for fishing then war :-)

[mogami_99]

Originally posted by Soky:

Originally posted by mogami_99:

I am a naval main. So the air and ground 10k mission requirements are to me what the 10k naval requirement is to you. By my calculations to do the air I need about 500 mission points per day (or 2 missions) Ground I can get 1k per mission so 1 mission per day for 10 days. I am sure I can do this while still doing my daily/special tasks in naval (of course I already have the 10k naval 6k ground and 3k air. with 18 days to go.

Thats it :-)
I did 10k in air in maybe 15 battles
now I have 1300 points in ground after 4 battles
but I played maybe 10 naval battles and im in with 2500 points....and I did not enjoyed them....

But thats it, everyone likes something else, I respect that,
but for me the naval is not good at all

I dont have a coastal tier III
Im playing with Cadiz....And I cannot remember how I get this one :-D

Ah I see. At least I have ground and air tier III to use. If I only had one of each it would be a issue in ground. (in air I only get 1 plane any way)
Cadiz was the ship from Battle Pass Armored Elephant. Do you have backups so you can use it more then once per battle?
Friend me in game mogami_99 and I will squad with you using Cadiz myself to help get at least 1k per battle. we just start at same spawn and stay close if you have a best squad wager use it. Best squad only requires we repair each other and if one gets a kill the other gets a team work or if both fire at same target 1 gets a kill the other gets supporting fire. 2 battles per day and your done next week. without making yourself crazy

[Soky]

Originally posted by mogami_99:

Originally posted by Soky:

Thats it :-)
I did 10k in air in maybe 15 battles
now I have 1300 points in ground after 4 battles
but I played maybe 10 naval battles and im in with 2500 points....and I did not enjoyed them....

But thats it, everyone likes something else, I respect that,
but for me the naval is not good at all

I dont have a coastal tier III
Im playing with Cadiz....And I cannot remember how I get this one :-D

Ah I see. At least I have ground and air tier III to use. If I only had one of each it would be a issue in ground. (in air I only get 1 plane any way)
Cadiz was the ship from Battle Pass Armored Elephant. Do you have backups so you can use it more then once per battle?
Friend me in game mogami_99 and I will squad with you using Cadiz myself to help get at least 1k per battle.

Armored Elephant will be it, because I have Elephant tank from that.
I did use these backups already.

Thanks for your offer.

[Predatortoast707]

Originally posted by mogami_99:

Originally posted by Mephisto:

I second the request
+ do not replace the missing players with bots, just allow smaller battles on the way to small maps

+1

+2

[mogami_99]

I should have mentioned in tasks or challenges that say score mission points or win battles using tier III you only need to use 1 tier III and your tier I/II will count.
If it says "kill using" then only the tier III would count. In events that ask for tier III any premium you earned in previous event will qualify.
So if your in an event that says tier III but you have a tier I or II event vehicle then as long as you use it any thing else you use will count toward mission or damage points. So in this challenge you only need 1 tier III to complete using tier I/II along with the tier III. And in the naval battle using a plane will count any mission points it earns.

[jaxjace]

The bots need to be removed, they are driving away players, keeping them in to fill the lobby is nonsense it just encourages more people to NOT play which compounds the problem. The GRIND for naval needs a rework, they also need to SYNC coastal and bluewater like it used to be or at the very least let us research coastal or blue no matter what boat/ship we are in. The problem with naval is it requires activity time and time in battle, Boats get high activity but low time in battle, Ships get low activity but long time in battle, both are shafted when it comes to research because neither of them can take full advantage of the mechanics used to determine XP and Silver gained in a match. The MAPS need to be redone and the spawnpoints redone as well, NOBODY and i mean NOBODY likes those big circle open water maps where you begin shooting at eachother from spawn, Likewise, nobody wants to spawn 20 minutes away from a cap point or a battle. Airplanes are IMBALANCED with the match because in arcade mode they are OP with infinite regen bombs and in realistic they are a waste of a spawn because they take so long to rearm that by the time they get back into the fight its already over.

NOTHING is working properly, the mode is on life support with whales keeping it afloat, something ANYTHING needs to be done.

[mogami_99]

Originally posted by jaxjace:

The bots need to be removed, they are driving away players, keeping them in to fill the lobby is nonsense it just encourages more people to NOT play which compounds the problem. The GRIND for naval needs a rework, they also need to SYNC coastal and bluewater like it used to be or at the very least let us research coastal or blue no matter what boat/ship we are in. The problem with naval is it requires activity time and time in battle, Boats get high activity but low time in battle, Ships get low activity but long time in battle, both are shafted when it comes to research because neither of them can take full advantage of the mechanics used to determine XP and Silver gained in a match. The MAPS need to be redone and the spawnpoints redone as well, NOBODY and i mean NOBODY likes those big circle open water maps where you begin shooting at eachother from spawn, Likewise, nobody wants to spawn 20 minutes away from a cap point or a battle. Airplanes are IMBALANCED with the match because in arcade mode they are OP with infinite regen bombs and in realistic they are a waste of a spawn because they take so long to rearm that by the time they get back into the fight its already over.

NOTHING is working properly, the mode is on life support with whales keeping it afloat, something ANYTHING needs to be done.

So I am for example research a coastal boat and a blue water ship at the same time. I use a MTB to cap a point and then a blue water ship to fight the battle. Guess what both get researched. Ships get high activity when they "MOVE" rather then sit in one spot. Take a cap in a ship and you get activity. Very rare for me to finish a naval battle with less then 80% activity.
There is not a single naval battle where you spawn 20 minutes from a cap but if you not moving what does it matter. I have capped points with enemy ships sitting less then 1k away who retreated behind a rock at my approach even when they were the better ship.
It is rare a plane gets to attack return to base and then attack again.
The big circle map you refer to is called the "Circle Jerk" You have to get inside the circle to win. Sitting still in the spawn and firing is exactly how teams lose that battle. It is a great map. It is all about gunnery and torpedoes since you can't cap the point. (The team with the most ships inside the circle bleeds enemy tickets and that is how you win no one ever caps that point. )
Now I hate my own teams bots much more then I hate enemy bots. Enemy bots are just targets that score points. "Friendly" bots get in the way and seem to have no eyes or knowledge on how to drive a ship. I am all for giving the enemy team bots but removing them from my team.

[kingjames488]

I like naval... you don't want that.

and don't do costal... it's actually painful.

[mrunuick]

Originally posted by Mod_Abuse_victim#488:

I like naval... you don't want that.

and don't do costal... it's actually painful.

Speak for yourself, Out of the two naval trees, i like coastal dramatically more. Lofting shells at something 12km away sucks.

[Santa Claus]

Originally posted by Mod_Abuse_victim#488:

I like naval... you don't want that.

and don't do costal... it's actually painful.

The niche crowd that enjoys this game mode is about as big as those who play sim and it shows with the bot problem in each. Unfortunately Gaijin is still putting a lot of resources into naval that could be used elsewhere.

If a vote were put up I'd vote no more resources or tasks related to naval. Let it be where it is now for those few who like it but focus on better areas of the game.