Ardelt Waffentrager

[Amoeba]

will the ardelt WT ever be added into warthunder? i feel like it would be a good new and unique addition
and since other nations can have paper/project vehicles, they could also add the Entwicklung series starting from E-5 to E-75, cuz warthunder is running out of vehicles to add for main nations.

[Amoeba]

the E-5 would have the PAW 600-8cm light anti tank gun
the E-10 and E-25 are almost the same, they could just add the E-25, E-50 is basically a more real Panther II that was in game some years ago. E-75 is like the tiger II 105mm, but also more realistic, that's why i think they would be great additions

top tier sucks anyway, they should focus on ww2 again

[Pec]

As a general rule its more or less a yes or at least eventually so long as it got past a wooden mock up and the design doesnt have any fundamental issues with it eg the tiger 105 dimensions being questionable.

[Amoeba]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GB:

As a general rule its more or less a yes or at least eventually so long as it got past a wooden mock up and the design doesnt have any fundamental issues with it eg the tiger 105 dimensions being questionable.

the panther II is real, just has a panther G turret on it, it's somewhere in a museum in the US, tiger II 105 had the breech dimension problem right? that's where the replacement E75 comes in
they even removed the coelian when it had a wooden mockup : (

[Toblm]

What does the Ardelt Trager add that isnt already present in the Krupp-Steyr Trager?
Germany doesnt really need another 5.7 open top Pak43 TD. Nothing about the Ardelt indicates it would rate a higher BR. Hell, the Waffentrager got folder-ed for a reason. If paper Pak43s are your thing, the Nashorn does that job perfectly.

[Pec]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Petr:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GB:

As a general rule its more or less a yes or at least eventually so long as it got past a wooden mock up and the design doesnt have any fundamental issues with it eg the tiger 105 dimensions being questionable.

the panther II is real, just has a panther G turret on it, it's somewhere in a museum in the US, tiger II 105 had the breech dimension problem right? that's where the replacement E75 comes in
they even removed the coelian when it had a wooden mockup : (

e75 didnt even make it to a wooden mock up so the chance is almost 0 also to be honest it would probably be worse then the tiger 2 as that thing doesn't exactly struggle in the firepower department.
Sometimes vehicles are also refused for gameplay reasons though its rare they think that far ahead a good example of that is the giraffe tanks germany/uk/france experimented with.

[Amoeba]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Toblm:

What does the Ardelt Trager add that isnt already present in the Krupp-Steyr Trager?
Germany doesnt really need another 5.7 open top Pak43 TD. Nothing about the Ardelt indicates it would rate a higher BR. Hell, the Waffentrager got folder-ed for a reason. If paper Pak43s are your thing, the Nashorn does that job perfectly.

nah the nashorn sucks ass, also there were more versions of the ardelt WT, with 128, 150, 105 and 88mm

[Toblm]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Petr:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Toblm:

What does the Ardelt Trager add that isnt already present in the Krupp-Steyr Trager?
Germany doesnt really need another 5.7 open top Pak43 TD. Nothing about the Ardelt indicates it would rate a higher BR. Hell, the Waffentrager got folder-ed for a reason. If paper Pak43s are your thing, the Nashorn does that job perfectly.

nah the nashorn sucks ass, also there were more versions of the ardelt WT, with 128, 150, 105 and 88mm

The Nashorn is fine. Does everything one would expect of an open top Pak43 TD and has better target acquisition than the WT.

The only issue with the Nashorn is its a glass cannon, but so is the WT.

[Zeno]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Petr:

will the ardelt WT ever be added into warthunder? i feel like it would be a good new and unique addition
and since other nations can have paper/project vehicles, they could also add the Entwicklung series starting from E-5 to E-75, cuz warthunder is running out of vehicles to add for main nations.

Hopefully not, I don't want this game to become a blue print simulator like WoT.

[Elijah]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GB:

As a general rule its more or less a yes or at least eventually so long as it got past a wooden mock up and the design doesnt have any fundamental issues with it eg the tiger 105 dimensions being questionable.

They replaced the Flakpanzer 341, who had a wooden mockup with the completly paper Ostwind 2. And to add insult to injury they put the guns beside each other, instead of ontop each other. What means the Ostwind 2 is just as realistic as the Tiger 2 105, ingame.

Gaijin is just doing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, as always.

[FD_Stalker]

Like I said before, it's time for gaijin to ditch their last g-string and fully embrace the blueprint vehicles

[Алко Манипулятор]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von FD_Stalker:

Like I said before, it's time for gaijin to ditch their last g-string and fully embrace the blueprint vehicles

Ergh, they wouldn't even be imbalanced for the sake of those who think otherwise - nobody is safe from CAS, APDS, HEAT, ATGMs and overpressure. I'm all in for the cool, unique vehicles instead of a hundred clones from planet Kamino..

[Amoeba]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von FD_Stalker:

Like I said before, it's time for gaijin to ditch their last g-string and fully embrace the blueprint vehicles

exactly

[kamikazi21358]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von BitchyBitchLover69:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von GB:

As a general rule its more or less a yes or at least eventually so long as it got past a wooden mock up and the design doesnt have any fundamental issues with it eg the tiger 105 dimensions being questionable.

They replaced the Flakpanzer 341, who had a wooden mockup with the completly paper Ostwind 2. And to add insult to injury they put the guns beside each other, instead of ontop each other. What means the Ostwind 2 is just as realistic as the Tiger 2 105, ingame.

Gaijin is just doing ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, as always.

The configuration of the Ostwind II isn’t fully knowable, since photographs of it doesn’t exist anymore. But it is ‘likely’ one was made. Meanwhile, Coelian we know did not have a full vehicle made, at least of metal, so while I wouldn’t have minded if the Ostwind II didn’t come at all either, but it did and it does belong more than the Flakpanzer 341 does. Like some of the Japanese vehicles in game, I rather have some vehicles that ‘most likely existed’ because of destroyed records than paper tanks that we know didn’t exist in an operational way.