F15 is a waste of 2 Million SL

[chicks99]

I just got the F15A Baz, and expert crew for it, 2 million SL.

I'm a experienced Phantom pilot, the F15 is a heavy fighter, thus it is the sucessor to the F4E Phantom, makes sense.

Well, I was wrong.
The Phantom turns better,
has the same amount of missiles,
Can have more or less countermeasures depending on the model,
has more air to ground ordinance,
has a better gun placement,
and has a second pilot (better survivability).

BR for BR, the F4 Phantom is literally better.

In a straight line, I hammer the elevator and the F4 is more responsive, the F15 can barely turn as well until it's lost all of its energy. 4th generation my butt, how does a 3rd gen have more multirole capability and turn?

The F15A is the worst 4th generation fighter I've ever flown in this game, don't buy it and waste 2m SL like I did.

[jaxjace]

Did you seriously not know that it had the same amount of missiles before you researched it? you never even looked at t he modifications and secondary weapon options you just clicked research and never saw this? Doubt.

4th Gen jets are by and large designed to be manuverable at certain speeds and have the ability to rapidly slow down or speed up to manage this. The F15s sweet spot is between 700-800 km, at those speeds it pulls very good AOA, this is nearly identical to the Su27 which will brick up below or above that sweet spot. F16s and Mig29s are likewise similar.

[Wraithguard]

Imma hard disagree. Love the 15. It's a pleasure to fly. Is it the best jet? No, but it has no business being at 12.3 lol.

[mesitylen]

This whole game is a waste of time!?

[LordBUM]

Originally posted by mesitylen:

This whole game is a waste of time!?

that's what she said

[Elijah]

What the ♥♥♥♥ ? The F-15 is literally better in every way. I don´t even know where to start. Are you trying to troll or something ?

[chicks99]

Originally posted by BitchyBitchLover69:

What the ♥♥♥♥ ? The F-15 is literally better in every way. I don´t even know where to start. Are you trying to troll or something ?

Phantom carries more ground ordinance, thus it is a better multirole aircraft than the F15A, simple as that.

And in terms of BR, there isn't much improvement to objectively justify the whole BR higher, that is why Gaijin puts it at 12.3 instead of 12.7, because it is actually bad. A F16C will smoke the F15A in a 1 vs 1 dogfight, sure the F15 can keep up at the middle speed ranges, but it has poor low speed and high speed turn performance.

Unlike the SU27 which carries 10 missiles. of which all are better than the F15's...

[Maki Nishikino]

I recently got the F-15A thanks to the F-4S. I'm liking the F-15A more.

[biomike]

Originally posted by chicks99:

Originally posted by BitchyBitchLover69:

What the ♥♥♥♥ ? The F-15 is literally better in every way. I don´t even know where to start. Are you trying to troll or something ?

Phantom carries more ground ordinance, thus it is a better multirole aircraft than the F15A, simple as that.

And in terms of BR, there isn't much improvement to objectively justify the whole BR higher, that is why Gaijin puts it at 12.3 instead of 12.7, because it is actually bad. A F16C will smoke the F15A in a 1 vs 1 dogfight, sure the F15 can keep up at the middle speed ranges, but it has poor low speed and high speed turn performance.

Unlike the SU27 which carries 10 missiles. of which all are better than the F15's...

You do know the F-15 was not made to be used as a multirole aircraft, to the point they had the phrase "Not a pound for air to ground." So comparing that aspect is rather stupid

[coolasianinja]

F15J better than any of the F15s in game imo

[Elijah]

Originally posted by chicks99:

Originally posted by BitchyBitchLover69:

What the ♥♥♥♥ ? The F-15 is literally better in every way. I don´t even know where to start. Are you trying to troll or something ?

Phantom carries more ground ordinance, thus it is a better multirole aircraft than the F15A, simple as that.

And in terms of BR, there isn't much improvement to objectively justify the whole BR higher, that is why Gaijin puts it at 12.3 instead of 12.7, because it is actually bad. A F16C will smoke the F15A in a 1 vs 1 dogfight, sure the F15 can keep up at the middle speed ranges, but it has poor low speed and high speed turn performance.

Unlike the SU27 which carries 10 missiles. of which all are better than the F15's...

Yea, the F-15 has less ground ordanence, so far as i know the F-15 is Air supiriority fighter, will the Phantom is Multirole.

Though thats it, the F-15 turns better, flys more stable, accelerates better, has higher top-speed and better missels. Aim-9L is already good, but Aim-9H is straight up scary.

[Smeg]

Unlock the boosters for it, really makes a world of difference

[KevlarBurrito]

Originally posted by chicks99:

Originally posted by BitchyBitchLover69:

What the ♥♥♥♥ ? The F-15 is literally better in every way. I don´t even know where to start. Are you trying to troll or something ?

Phantom carries more ground ordinance, thus it is a better multirole aircraft than the F15A, simple as that.

The F15 wasn't designed to be a multi-role aircraft you donkey...

[chicks99]

Originally posted by Smeg:

Unlock the boosters for it, really makes a world of difference

Yep, only realized what I was missing out on after I got the boosters, which was very late because I got all the way down to the Aim9M and engine upgrade before picking boosters.

Originally posted by KevlarBurrito:

The F15 wasn't designed to be a multi-role aircraft you donkey...

Which is why it sucks in War Thunder. When grinding out the event, 45k points/2 days, you think I'm going to use a F15 which relies on its air to air armament to get kills (very inconsistent) or the F4 Phantom which carries enough ordinance to level 3 bases flat in a row? I get on average 2-4k score points per game in something with loads of ordinance like a Phantom or even the Kfir Canard when I use it to ground pound, numbers which a F15 can only dream of.

Matter of fact, I took the Israeli F4E (Kurnass) into a match today and got 5k score points raw, Five-Thousand.

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2458474004200481435/8CFEBB51A060475C3C03C039D781CE3E35CCCB59/

Point and case, F15 is not fit for War Thunder, why should I use it if the F4 does a better job? Waste of 2 million SL for something new but worse than the old.

[I AM THE LAW!]

I feel you're pain man, but I think you're wrong. what you've got is stock syndrome, if you can make it through the grind and get a spaded performance f15, I think your opinion will be changed.

[I AM THE LAW!]

Originally posted by coolasianinja:

F15J better than any of the F15s in game imo

by like 5% lmao!