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The Grand Wizard (Banned) Feb 11, 2024 @ 1:05pm
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Remove plane ability to drop bombs after getting killed
This alone would remove a lot of unfairness and frustration in GRB
I just "destroyed" an enemy plane that was going for one of my teammates and saved him... except not, because despite the plane exploding and burning, he was still able to manoeuvre and drop his bombs, thus killing my ally

How is this fair and ok? How much pandering do CAS players need? Even if i "win" against a plane i still lose in the end because he can still drop bombs, wtf?
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j.yellow28 Feb 11, 2024 @ 1:22pm 
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its called knocking out the piolot. If the pilot is dead he cant do anmything if the plane is just damaged and falling the pilot can still drop bombs. Id suggest to not stop fireing even if it says u killed him untill his pilot is non existent
The Grand Wizard (Banned) Feb 11, 2024 @ 1:29pm 
Originally posted by j.yellow28:
its called knocking out the piolot. If the pilot is dead he cant do anmything if the plane is just damaged and falling the pilot can still drop bombs. Id suggest to not stop fireing even if it says u killed him untill his pilot is non existent
>just snipe the pilot of a plane going 700 km/h at 1km+ distance
damn, why didn't i think of that

do you realize how unrealistic your suggestion is? especially since i already do what you say and empty my mag, only to be send to hangar to replenish
PapaSnickers Feb 11, 2024 @ 1:36pm 
Most likely a 90 spawn point cost will always win over a 600+ spawn point cost if you happen to trade. As frustrating as it is, you're saving your team. But that's just CAS for you, they're always guaranteed to get a kill.
Shad1902 Feb 11, 2024 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by The Grand Wizard:
Originally posted by j.yellow28:
its called knocking out the piolot. If the pilot is dead he cant do anmything if the plane is just damaged and falling the pilot can still drop bombs. Id suggest to not stop fireing even if it says u killed him untill his pilot is non existent
>just snipe the pilot of a plane going 700 km/h at 1km+ distance
damn, why didn't i think of that

do you realize how unrealistic your suggestion is? especially since i already do what you say and empty my mag, only to be send to hangar to replenish

hey, somehow my burning engine prevents me from pushing this button to release the bomb.


don't argue with realism when you're asking for somehting unrealistic.
biomike Feb 11, 2024 @ 1:55pm 
When they make it consistent on what is destroyed, as getting the wing tip shot off counts as a kill on some planes but doesnt for others
The Grand Wizard (Banned) Feb 11, 2024 @ 2:15pm 
Originally posted by Shad1902:
Originally posted by The Grand Wizard:
>just snipe the pilot of a plane going 700 km/h at 1km+ distance
damn, why didn't i think of that

do you realize how unrealistic your suggestion is? especially since i already do what you say and empty my mag, only to be send to hangar to replenish

hey, somehow my burning engine prevents me from pushing this button to release the bomb.


don't argue with realism when you're asking for somehting unrealistic.
hey, somehow my cockpit received 50 35mm HE shells and survived but now i'm burning alive, better adjust the trajectory and drop the bombs at just the right time before i crash into the ground at 700 km/h

don't "muh realism" me
CaptainSpacetime Feb 11, 2024 @ 2:25pm 
Keep shooting until you take a wing off or something.

It's the reason that kamikazes were so dangerous, you could technically kill one but unless you damage it so severely that it immediately crashes into the sea then it's just going to continue on its trajectory.
biomike Feb 11, 2024 @ 3:02pm 
Originally posted by The Grand Wizard:
Originally posted by Shad1902:

hey, somehow my burning engine prevents me from pushing this button to release the bomb.


don't argue with realism when you're asking for somehting unrealistic.
hey, somehow my cockpit received 50 35mm HE shells and survived but now i'm burning alive, better adjust the trajectory and drop the bombs at just the right time before i crash into the ground at 700 km/h

don't "muh realism" me
A round just went through the gunner and set the tank on fire, dont worry we will be back moving real fast and nobody will care about the gunners guts that are now splattered around the turret
Shartyfartblast Feb 11, 2024 @ 3:31pm 
That's how planes be. In wartime, any plane that was going down and was still able to drop it's bombs would immediately do so.
Chances of surviving a plane crash are, shockingly, much higher if you don't have 2000 lbs of HE still strapped to you.

This is really no different to a tank that has disabled tracks still being able to shoot their gun.
The Grand Wizard (Banned) Feb 11, 2024 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by biomike:
Originally posted by The Grand Wizard:
hey, somehow my cockpit received 50 35mm HE shells and survived but now i'm burning alive, better adjust the trajectory and drop the bombs at just the right time before i crash into the ground at 700 km/h

don't "muh realism" me
A round just went through the gunner and set the tank on fire, dont worry we will be back moving real fast and nobody will care about the gunners guts that are now splattered around the turret
do you really wanna argue which setting is more realistic? a tank with around 4 crew replacing a dead gunner vs a pilot surviving 35mm shells into his cockpit?
i never made a point about realism, nothing about this game is realistic, it's supposed to be a game accessible to everybody

you cas apologist never cease to amaze me with all the mental gymnastics you come up with, just so your op toys won't get touched

your plane has been shot down, shells keep coming into your plane, it's burning, you have no tail, no wings, the game registered you as "dead" yet you're still able to kill the one that shot you down or some poor soul near you
how do you justify this being fair and balanced?
Venom Feb 11, 2024 @ 4:28pm 
Originally posted by Shartyfartblast:
That's how planes be. In wartime, any plane that was going down and was still able to drop it's bombs would immediately do so.
Chances of surviving a plane crash are, shockingly, much higher if you don't have 2000 lbs of HE still strapped to you.

This is really no different to a tank that has disabled tracks still being able to shoot their gun.


This is really no different to a tank that has disabled tracks still being able to shoot their gun.

Really, are you comparing destroyed tracks on a tank with an airplane? :D If we want to argue with reality (which this game is not), then the plane, if you know them in reality, is much more prone to damage, where it immediately loses the ability to control accurately, to fly, especially at higher speeds. Not to mention the exact dropping of the load in a damaged plane that is on fire, which often in itself causes a high temperature in the plane, its uncontrollability, etc. But the problem is that the game simply shows destruction when the enemy is able to continue fighting. Either the game does not show that the enemy is destroyed, or as soon as it gives this information, the player can no longer intervene in the game, simple. It has already happened to me several times that I was destroyed, the enemy accepted this information and I turned around and destroyed him as well as the tanks, I flew on the map for 3 minutes and landed, repaired the plane and continued playing. So was I destroyed or not? Do we want to talk about realism or not?
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j.yellow28 Feb 11, 2024 @ 4:29pm 
Originally posted by The Grand Wizard:
Originally posted by biomike:
A round just went through the gunner and set the tank on fire, dont worry we will be back moving real fast and nobody will care about the gunners guts that are now splattered around the turret
do you really wanna argue which setting is more realistic? a tank with around 4 crew replacing a dead gunner vs a pilot surviving 35mm shells into his cockpit?
i never made a point about realism, nothing about this game is realistic, it's supposed to be a game accessible to everybody

you cas apologist never cease to amaze me with all the mental gymnastics you come up with, just so your op toys won't get touched

your plane has been shot down, shells keep coming into your plane, it's burning, you have no tail, no wings, the game registered you as "dead" yet you're still able to kill the one that shot you down or some poor soul near you
how do you justify this being fair and balanced?
u can also shoot and scoot if u dont wanna be kamakazied on his death. fire damage move as ur fireing so u keep doing more damage and he has harder time trying to kamakazi u on his dead? or have urself near cover so that in situations either planes r trying to straif u or the death kamakazi is inbound u can take cover.
Venom Feb 11, 2024 @ 4:32pm 
Originally posted by Venom:
Originally posted by Shartyfartblast:
That's how planes be. In wartime, any plane that was going down and was still able to drop it's bombs would immediately do so.
Chances of surviving a plane crash are, shockingly, much higher if you don't have 2000 lbs of HE still strapped to you.

This is really no different to a tank that has disabled tracks still being able to shoot their gun.


This is really no different to a tank that has disabled tracks still being able to shoot their gun.

Really, are you comparing destroyed tracks on a tank with an airplane? :D If we want to argue with reality (which this game is not), then the plane, if you know them in reality, is much more prone to damage, where it immediately loses the ability to control accurately, to fly, especially at higher speeds. Not to mention the exact dropping of the load in a damaged plane that is on fire, which often in itself causes a high temperature in the plane, its uncontrollability, etc. But the problem is that the game simply shows destruction when the enemy is able to continue fighting. Either the game does not show that the enemy is destroyed, or as soon as it gives this information, the player can no longer intervene in the game, simple. It has already happened to me several times that I was destroyed, the enemy accepted this information and I turned around and destroyed him as well as the tanks, I flew on the map for 3 minutes and landed, repaired the plane and continued playing. So was I destroyed or not? Do we want to talk about realism or not?

Not to mention the fact that these were more or less exceptional cases, very rarely when the pilot managed to destroy the enemy exactly with the destroyed plane. It was definitely not a trivial matter. The kamikazes were also very ineffective and a large number of them failed to hit the target after their plane was hit. She proved to destroy the enemies only thanks to the fact that there were a lot of them, or many attempts. Otherwise, it was a pretty ineffective tactic.


Last edited by Venom; Feb 11, 2024 @ 4:32pm
The Grand Wizard (Banned) Feb 11, 2024 @ 4:41pm 
Originally posted by j.yellow28:
Originally posted by The Grand Wizard:
do you really wanna argue which setting is more realistic? a tank with around 4 crew replacing a dead gunner vs a pilot surviving 35mm shells into his cockpit?
i never made a point about realism, nothing about this game is realistic, it's supposed to be a game accessible to everybody

you cas apologist never cease to amaze me with all the mental gymnastics you come up with, just so your op toys won't get touched

your plane has been shot down, shells keep coming into your plane, it's burning, you have no tail, no wings, the game registered you as "dead" yet you're still able to kill the one that shot you down or some poor soul near you
how do you justify this being fair and balanced?
u can also shoot and scoot if u dont wanna be kamakazied on his death. fire damage move as ur fireing so u keep doing more damage and he has harder time trying to kamakazi u on his dead? or have urself near cover so that in situations either planes r trying to straif u or the death kamakazi is inbound u can take cover.
bro, i don't know why you keep coming up with these scenarios that don't even work
i didn't ask for advice on how to take down planes, because i am taking them down, but sometimes they keep flying for more than 5 seconds and that's enough to get into range to drop the bombs
there is no running away, there is no place you will be able to go at 30 km/h that a plane will not reach
PapaSnickers Feb 12, 2024 @ 12:57am 
Dude, Gaijin literally states that an aircraft that's critically damaged can still fly. Not perfectly but is enough to place your vehicle right in their bomb marker. If you fail to shoot an on coming aircraft within a few seconds of it locking on to you, so be it. Like the other dudes said, keep shooting until you either kill the pilot or rip the wing off as the engine actually will eat shrapnel. If you point your skill to argue with other peoples suggestions then you won't ever be bombed again.
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