Total lack of balance

[MisterKatamari]

Anyone else notice that whichever team has the "100s" on it is pretty much assured 100% victory with nearly 0 opposition from the other team.

Would be nice if players who were 50+ levels higher could not queue with players who were 50+ levels lower.

Game's fun, but the lack of balance is brutally frustrating.

[Canadian Guitar]

I get plenty of level 100's on my team with sub 50% winrates, and who are active detriments to my team.

[LordBUM]

player levels have nothing to do with anything this is just a skill issue.

[MisterKatamari]

Originally posted by LordBUM:

player levels have nothing to do with anything this is just a skill issue.

Of course it's a skill issue, I'm fighting players who have 100s of more hours in the game than me, the fact that it's a skill issue is blatantly obvious, if you're up against someone who is more experienced you don't stand much of a chance.

Your statement doesn't detract from the point that I made, not even in the least, if anything you just further proved it.

[Canadian Guitar]

Originally posted by MisterKatamari:

Originally posted by LordBUM:

player levels have nothing to do with anything this is just a skill issue.

Of course it's a skill issue, I'm fighting players who have 100s of more hours in the game than me, the fact that it's a skill issue is blatantly obvious, if you're up against someone who is more experienced you don't stand much of a chance.

Your statement doesn't detract from the point that I made, not even in the least, if anything you just further proved it.

Doesn't matter much if those players have been bad players for 100's of hours. Repeating a bad skill poorly isn't going to help them versus an inherently good, newer player, who learns.

[MisterKatamari]

Originally posted by Canadian Guitar:

Originally posted by MisterKatamari:

Of course it's a skill issue, I'm fighting players who have 100s of more hours in the game than me, the fact that it's a skill issue is blatantly obvious, if you're up against someone who is more experienced you don't stand much of a chance.

Your statement doesn't detract from the point that I made, not even in the least, if anything you just further proved it.

Doesn't matter much if those players have been bad players for 100's of hours. Repeating a bad skill poorly isn't going to help them versus an inherently good, newer player, who learns.

That's exactly my point though; how are you supposed to have a chance to learn if 60-70% of the matches are completely one-sided easily dominated by whichever side has the most "100s"

There's precious little room for learning in situations like that - which is my point, it's very frustrating.

[Canadian Guitar]

Originally posted by MisterKatamari:

Originally posted by Canadian Guitar:

Doesn't matter much if those players have been bad players for 100's of hours. Repeating a bad skill poorly isn't going to help them versus an inherently good, newer player, who learns.

That's exactly my point though; how are you supposed to have a chance to learn if 60-70% of the matches are completely one-sided easily dominated by "100s"
There's little room for learning in situations like that - which is my point, it's very frustrating.

One side is rarely dominated by "100s" - they're on both teams. If these level 100 players are so amazing, ask why the ones on your team aren't doing the same?

Furthermore, maybe you've do better and help win more if you spent more time playing and engaging enemies, than clicking playercards for 16 enemies every game.


Most of the matches in the game are snow balled - once a team starts losing, it starts loosing faster and faster and is hard to recover from.

[Chaoslink]

I get outplayed by as many level 100s as I do level 10s. It’s all about being smarter most of the time. A huge majority of players play the game like a bot, driving in a straight line directly at capture points or the enemy spawn with no concept of strategy or tactics. I’ve held my ground in 5v1 scenarios in a full uptier plenty of times just by playing smarter than the 5 people trying to take me down.

Level has very little to do with it. It can definitely be relevant, but only slightly.

[MisterKatamari]

Originally posted by Canadian Guitar:

Originally posted by MisterKatamari:

That's exactly my point though; how are you supposed to have a chance to learn if 60-70% of the matches are completely one-sided easily dominated by "100s"
There's little room for learning in situations like that - which is my point, it's very frustrating.

One side is rarely dominated by "100s" - they're on both teams. If these level 100 players are so amazing, ask why the ones on your team aren't doing the same?

Furthermore, maybe you've do better and help win more if you spent more time playing and engaging enemies, than clicking playercards for 16 enemies every game.


Most of the matches in the game are snow balled - once a team starts losing, it starts loosing faster and faster and is hard to recover from.

I'm not usually that low in the list I get on average around anywhere from 4th-8th in the team (obviously I'm pretty bad at the game, but I still put in my best efforts into the matches I play) I usually check player cards after I'm out (or while waiting on a respawn) not during actual combat

I've read that "rank doesn't have much to do with it" but that's not very true, rank shows some degree of experience which (even if poorly) translates into some form of skill.

What I said is still true, the issue with balance is really annoying when first starting.

The frustration for me is the one-sided matches, and the ones I've seen are most definitely not "snow balled" it's a near instant-stomp of the entire team usually by tanks with bushes on their front.

[Canadian Guitar]

Originally posted by MisterKatamari:

The frustration for me is the one-sided matches, and the ones I've seen are most definitely not "snow balled" it's a near instant-stomp of the entire team usually by tanks with bushes on their front.

You wanna throw in more excuses while you're at it?

[MisterKatamari]

Originally posted by Canadian Guitar:

Originally posted by MisterKatamari:

The frustration for me is the one-sided matches, and the ones I've seen are most definitely not "snow balled" it's a near instant-stomp of the entire team usually by tanks with bushes on their front.

You wanna throw in more excuses while you're at it?

Sandbagging is inexcusable.

But I don't feel the need to defend an issue (I don't have that 'attachment' to the community), so I've stated my point.

Camping low ranks is pathetic no matter how you attempt to frame it.

I said what I said, and I will not be changing what I said.

[Canadian Guitar]

Originally posted by MisterKatamari:

Camping low ranks is pathetic no matter how you attempt to frame it.

So now people aren't allowed to play vehicles they enjoy?
Some people get to level 100 soley playing WW2 vehicles, which is what the game primarily offered for the beginning years. Some people have no interest in playing other eras of combat. But because they're level 100, you don't think they should play what they want?

[MisterKatamari]

Originally posted by Canadian Guitar:

Originally posted by MisterKatamari:

Camping low ranks is pathetic no matter how you attempt to frame it.

So now people aren't allowed to play vehicles they enjoy?
Some people get to level 100 soley playing WW2 vehicles, which is what the game primarily offered for the beginning years. Some people have no interest in playing other eras of combat. But because they're level 100, you don't think they should play what they want?

No, I don't think that should be the case at all, no one should be gimped for anything, I just wish there was a way to play against players who are on a similar level that's all.

I don't detract from the fact that I'm still very inexperienced at the game (AKA flat-out bad) but I want to learn the mechanics and compete against other players who are also learning, for me at least 60-65% of my matches (especially since the current event) have been dominated by players who are to such a level that there's not much room for learning on my side of the matter.

I ain't here to dunk on anyone, just stating what I've seen so far (just my opinion of course) I don't claim to be right, but I can only speak of what I've witnessed firsthand.

[Darkdan777]

Originally posted by MisterKatamari:

Originally posted by LordBUM:

player levels have nothing to do with anything this is just a skill issue.

Of course it's a skill issue, I'm fighting players who have 100s of more hours in the game than me, the fact that it's a skill issue is blatantly obvious, if you're up against someone who is more experienced you don't stand much of a chance.

Your statement doesn't detract from the point that I made, not even in the least, if anything you just further proved it.

Welcome to online gaming, this is every game out there

[Eftwyrd]

i was trashing level 100s back before i was level 10, nothing about playing for hundreds of hours means those hours were actually productive, some people are especially dense.

others spent those hours doing something unrelated to what they are doing now, its very easy to get to 100 flying a glorified bus route using bombers in sim, many people in fact have done exactly that and are some of the worst jet pilots you will ever meet because top tier is literally their first experience in an actual fighter. never mind if they play another mode entirely

i literally remember having to explain energy combat to a pair of level 100s who made a point of mocking me for being level 7 at the time (which is why it stands out in my memory), this was in sim where you would think people would actually know how to fly...

[Ulvhamne]

I'm almost at 100 now, something like 90-91 I think? I don't really pay much attention to the level, since it's entirely irrelephant. But today, I had some real ♥♥♥♥♥♥ matches. Like, start match, poke my nose around a corner and get stomped, spawn next vehicle and repeat.
The enemy teams just curb stomped my entire team over and over in every match.

Just one of them days. Hopped in my jets instead, got a good start to a game and got 3 pretty quick kills, and got shot down by a teammate. Welp. One of those days. Poke around a bit in the hangar and then log out.

Normally I don't suck quite so bad, but even high level players have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ days. And really, a noob player with situational awareness will be better than a lvl 100 that is both dumb, deaf and blind. And there are a lot of those, lemme tell you.
And, for learning as a newbie, that's what it's like. This game has a steep learning curve but it really isn't too much to it. Listen for enemies, don't run across wide open fields, stay low for transport to avoid giving an easy shot to enemies watching, and learn where to shoot enemies, either to one tap them, or to disable their ability to shoot back. Turret rings, cannon, motor, tracks, whatever fits the current situation.

If you're playing arcade, i'd say that realistic is probably better for you to learn, as you won't be highlighted to the enemy when you get near them, that's how I kinda learned to play.
That and the utterly mind numbingly boring tank PvE assault, since you get a lot of tanks to learn to one tap them. And also do hull down to not die as much.