USA needs buff

[Majic]

I swear, if feels like the US is nerfed like Blackbeard in rainbow cause they dont lie about their tanks since the Snail tries to get the most accurate versions of tanks. It feels like I cant pen anything with the best US rounds and I get one shoted even if i get hit in the dumbest way possible by russian tanks that dont work IRL.

[bastion of pragmatism]

average us player word salad about russian bias

[FoxHound]

i can relate, but I think I got used to it.
US Tanks are mid at everything, and being mid at everything means that you are good for nothing.

Im at RANK IV hoping that at some point they get better.

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I think the only buff USA needs is a spall liner to the front hull plate of M1A2 SEP2...
Nothing else neeeded.

[Raum]

Originally posted by FoxHound:

i can relate, but I think I got used to it.
US Tanks are mid at everything, and being mid at everything means that you are good for nothing.

Im at RANK IV hoping that at some point they get better.

I'm breaking into rank 6. It doesn't for the most part. It doesn't help that we are still essentially using WW2 era tanks and everyone else is rolling around with missile platforms.

I think the US tanks are rated juuuuuust a bit too high with their BR. They could all probably use about a -.7 to -1.3 on their BR between 3.3 and 8.0 or so.

[biomike]

Originally posted by Raum:

Originally posted by FoxHound:

i can relate, but I think I got used to it.
US Tanks are mid at everything, and being mid at everything means that you are good for nothing.

Im at RANK IV hoping that at some point they get better.

I'm breaking into rank 6. It doesn't for the most part. It doesn't help that we are still essentially using WW2 era tanks and everyone else is rolling around with missile platforms.

I think the US tanks are rated juuuuuust a bit too high with their BR. They could all probably use about a -.7 to -1.3 on their BR between 3.3 and 8.0 or so.

The only tank in rank 5 for USA thats WWII is the T95 everything else rank 5 and up is post war
Also you do have missile platforms, M551, M3 Bradley and M60A2
You also get AA with proxy rounds and fire and forget missiles for your AA

[Toblm]

Originally posted by biomike:

Originally posted by Raum:

I'm breaking into rank 6. It doesn't for the most part. It doesn't help that we are still essentially using WW2 era tanks and everyone else is rolling around with missile platforms.

I think the US tanks are rated juuuuuust a bit too high with their BR. They could all probably use about a -.7 to -1.3 on their BR between 3.3 and 8.0 or so.

The only tank in rank 5 for USA thats WWII is the T95 everything else rank 5 and up is post war
Also you do have missile platforms, M551, M3 Bradley and M60A2
You also get AA with proxy rounds and fire and forget missiles for your AA

To be fair The T32/T32E1 is also a 1945 prototype.

But other than a rough stock round grind US in the rank IV/V range seems fine to me.

[Κατακουζηνος.MXII]

Originally posted by Majic:

I swear, if feels like the US is nerfed like Blackbeard in rainbow cause they dont lie about their tanks since the Snail tries to get the most accurate versions of tanks. It feels like I cant pen anything with the best US rounds and I get one shoted even if i get hit in the dumbest way possible by russian tanks that dont work IRL.

Shut up and win not abuse players

[b4ry]

Originally posted by aaaaaaaaa:

average us player word salad about russian bias

Yup. Nothing like IS-1 being at the same br as M4 76 W in Simulator, lol. Very comparable tanks.
Russian players have to experience some other nations to have some understanding but they will never do it cuz they even suck playing russians.

[Bob]

Yup. Free Abrams for everybody!

[Sierra-Six-Four]

always funny to see US players complain while i wish i had any other nation on my team when playing 10.0 and up because the players are THAT bad at the game...

[Black_Fox]

Play germany at 6.7 - US just steamrolls through the matches because nothing really can punch through

[Miles "Tails" Prower]

skill issue, a better player would play a better country

[ArtemisHunt]

USA is strongest at 5.3-6.7. When you hit the M60s, they're not bad but their layout is awful and the cupola is too elevated meaning you're vulnerable to HE. The Sheridan at 8.0 is an absolute PoS and Starship is serviceable but still quite the pain. The USA 9.0 lineup is adequate but again runs into the issue of just being "adequate". You won't hit another BR where USA is legitimately "good" or "great" again after the 5.0-6.7 BR

[chicks99]

Originally posted by Miles "Tails" Prower:

skill issue, a better player would play a better country

*Freedom music stops*

how does the country with the largest military spending in the entire world have worse vehicles in game than the other countries?

Originally posted by Majic:

I swear, if feels like the US is nerfed like Blackbeard in rainbow cause they dont lie about their tanks since the Snail tries to get the most accurate versions of tanks. It feels like I cant pen anything with the best US rounds and I get one shoted even if i get hit in the dumbest way possible by russian tanks that dont work IRL.

The latest tank (M1A2 SEP V2) is from 2007 while other countries get the most modern up to date tanks.

Russia: T90M - 2017
Germany: Leopard 2A7V - 2017
Britain: Challenger 3 - (Not yet in service, 2024-2030)
China: VT-4 - 2022
Italy: Ariete AMV - 2022
Japan: Type 10 - 2012
Israel: Merkava - 2011

As you can see, The U.S is only using a small fraction of its true power in War Thunder, being stuck with outdated vehicles. God forbid I mention the other top of the line tanks in the U.S, the HSTVL from the 1970s fighting against tanks 40 years ahead and the XM1069 SPAA from the 1980s competing with SPAA from the 2010s.

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Gaijin will probably add M1A2 SEPV3 but that will be a rank 9 vehicle.... DU layers in both hull and turret