Please Remove or Rework karelia

[Major Ace]

One of the spawns is on the top of the hill so that makes it easy for the other team to just spawnkill minutes into the match and it becomes unfair and unfun to play when you get spawnkilled over and over. Remove or rework this map!3

[Blamite Delight]

no, you just need to get better. You can star by not giving the enemy team free kills by spawning in the safe location over and over again. Theres also flanking and laying down smoke screens, to just name a few options.

[Major Ace]

Originally posted by Blamite Delight:

no, you just need to get better. You can star by not giving the enemy team free kills by spawning in the safe location over and over again. Theres also flanking and laying down smoke screens, to just name a few options.

Flanking route is also protected, and what if i don't have smoke screen? What if there are enemies on the other spawn?

Also stop saying just get better as it doesn't help. People just use it on anything

[legaroojack]

Originally posted by Blamite Delight:

no, you just need to get better. You can star by not giving the enemy team free kills by spawning in the safe location over and over again. Theres also flanking and laying down smoke screens, to just name a few options.

" Oh theres an actual issue with map design and spawncamping on that map? Must be a SkIlL iSsUe"

[Rinky]

Originally posted by Blamite Delight:

no, you just need to get better. You can star by not giving the enemy team free kills by spawning in the safe location over and over again. Theres also flanking and laying down smoke screens, to just name a few options.

"no, maps are perfect and if one side gets an obvious advantage, its not a map problem, its a you problem. just avoid half of the map, because you can't do anything there but it is not a maps fault"

[Blamite Delight]

Originally posted by Legaroojack:

Originally posted by Blamite Delight:

no, you just need to get better. You can star by not giving the enemy team free kills by spawning in the safe location over and over again. Theres also flanking and laying down smoke screens, to just name a few options.

" Oh theres an actual issue with map design and spawncamping on that map? Must be a SkIlL iSsUe"

it is a skill issue, why are you feeding them kills?

[Blamite Delight]

Originally posted by Major Ace:

Originally posted by Blamite Delight:

no, you just need to get better. You can star by not giving the enemy team free kills by spawning in the safe location over and over again. Theres also flanking and laying down smoke screens, to just name a few options.

Flanking route is also protected, and what if i don't have smoke screen? What if there are enemies on the other spawn?

Also stop saying just get better as it doesn't help. People just use it on anything

no, getting better DOES help because then you don't end up as free food for the enemy team. Do you NOT KNOW how to pay attention to your map and surroundings? Both topmost spawns on Karelia have paths that you can use to go into the center of the map and outflank the enemy, same with the lowermost spawns.

[Blamite Delight]

Originally posted by Rinky:

Originally posted by Blamite Delight:

no, you just need to get better. You can star by not giving the enemy team free kills by spawning in the safe location over and over again. Theres also flanking and laying down smoke screens, to just name a few options.

"no, maps are perfect and if one side gets an obvious advantage, its not a map problem, its a you problem. just avoid half of the map, because you can't do anything there but it is not a maps fault"

if you can't escape spawn camping despite all of the clutter added to prevent it then it is by all means a YOU problem.

[76561199341125672]

Originally posted by Blamite Delight:

it is a skill issue, why are you feeding them kills?

Most maps in this game are either bad or horrible. Karelia is one of them. Do you agree?

[Blamite Delight]

Originally posted by Iron-56:

Originally posted by Blamite Delight:

it is a skill issue, why are you feeding them kills?

Most maps in this game are either bad or horrible. Karelia is one of them. Do you agree?

no, I don't agree. I enjoy Karelia because I know how to flank and NOT behave like an AI and feed the enemy team kills. The map was already patched with large rock outcroppings and even a large bunker on the mid map checkpoint to stop enfilade fire from the center heights into one of the teams spawn. If despite all of these hand holds you are still getting spawn killed then it is by ALL MEANS A YOU PROBLEM.

[76561199341125672]

You need to "patch" maps if they were bad in the beginning. So they throw some "patches" (huge rocks) here and there. Add more crap to a crap map.

[Blamite Delight]

Originally posted by Iron-56:

You need to "patch" maps if they were bad in the beginning. So they throw some "patches" (huge rocks) here and there. Add more crap to a crap map.

they only did it because threads like this exist. It wasn't the only map that got huge rocks thrown in either.

[76561199341125672]

There are maps that were designed by throwing huge rocks. For example look at Finland.

[legaroojack]

Originally posted by Blamite Delight:

Originally posted by Iron-56:

You need to "patch" maps if they were bad in the beginning. So they throw some "patches" (huge rocks) here and there. Add more crap to a crap map.

they only did it because threads like this exist. It wasn't the only map that got huge rocks thrown in either.

awwww shame, is the noob unhappy that they made changes to maps making it harder to spawn camp. poor you, no more easy free kills.

[Black_Fox]

There are so many ♥♥♥♥ maps they could remove or rework that it would fill a whole major update.

Or remove crew lock for quitting right away - having to play another nation because I refuse to play on outright BS maps doesn't encourage me to spend money

[76561199341125672]

How about using this planet Earth as a model for maps? 149 million square kilometers available.